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Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:26 PM

McCain To Hillary Clinton: Youve Got To Move On - HuffPo via Yahoo

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., says he understands why Hillary Clinton decided to write her campaign memoir, “What Happened,” which was published in September — 10 months after her brutal election loss to Donald Trump. But McCain, who suffered his own bitter defeat, to Barack Obama, as the Republican nominee in 2008, also knows that “you can’t rewrite history.”

“One of the almost irresistible impulses you have when you lose is to somehow justify why you lost and how you were mistreated: ’I did the right thing! I did!’” McCain told Esquire magazine for a lengthy profile published online Sunday. “The hardest thing to do is to just shut up.”

In “What Happened,” Clinton claims that the “attacks” Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., leveled at her during their Democratic primary battle “caused lasting damage,” made it harder to “unify progressives” and paved the way for Trump’s “Crooked Hillary” refrain.

“What’s the f***ing point? Keep the fight up?” McCain said of Clinton’s tome. “History will judge that campaign, and it’s always a period of time before they do. You’ve got to move on. This is Hillary’s problem right now: She doesn’t have anything to do.”


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Reply McCain To Hillary Clinton: Youve Got To Move On - HuffPo via Yahoo (Original post)
Baconator Nov 2017 OP
dalton99a Nov 2017 #1
crazycatlady Nov 2017 #23
trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #40
Wiseman32218 Nov 2017 #41
spanone Nov 2017 #2
StevieM Nov 2017 #6
malaise Nov 2017 #21
spanone Nov 2017 #22
delisen Nov 2017 #3
xmas74 Nov 2017 #4
LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #5
LisaM Nov 2017 #7
ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #8
lame54 Nov 2017 #9
dalton99a Nov 2017 #10
VOX Nov 2017 #38
treestar Nov 2017 #51
InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #53
Orsino Nov 2017 #11
Buns_of_Fire Nov 2017 #12
Me. Nov 2017 #13
Scoopster Nov 2017 #14
still_one Nov 2017 #15
Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #27
still_one Nov 2017 #30
Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #31
still_one Nov 2017 #33
Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #34
left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #16
stevenleser Nov 2017 #45
left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #54
stevenleser Nov 2017 #57
Snotcicles Nov 2017 #59
MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #64
rogue emissary Nov 2017 #17
JHan Nov 2017 #35
standingtall Nov 2017 #18
R B Garr Nov 2017 #19
NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #20
edhopper Nov 2017 #24
Baconator Nov 2017 #25
edhopper Nov 2017 #28
Baconator Nov 2017 #58
MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #60
Baconator Nov 2017 #61
MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #62
Baconator Nov 2017 #65
MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #66
Baconator Nov 2017 #67
JHan Nov 2017 #26
woolldog Nov 2017 #29
earthside Nov 2017 #36
sadiegirl Nov 2017 #47
lapucelle Nov 2017 #32
JHan Nov 2017 #37
treestar Nov 2017 #52
no_hypocrisy Nov 2017 #39
ucrdem Nov 2017 #42
Jakes Progress Nov 2017 #43
Jakes Progress Nov 2017 #44
Dorian Gray Nov 2017 #46
eShirl Nov 2017 #48
WinkyDink Nov 2017 #49
treestar Nov 2017 #50
NCTraveler Nov 2017 #55
ecstatic Nov 2017 #56
mercuryblues Nov 2017 #63

Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:29 PM

1. Will history record McCain as an enabler in America's destruction?

He should worry about that instead

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:15 PM

23. Well he did give the world Sarah Palin

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:54 PM

40. We should be worried about the continued HATCHET JOB against Hillary. WHY THIS THREAD

MOVE ON and stop harassing and haggling about Hillary Clinton already. These Anti Hill threads don't belong here ?????
Why continue to be so negative about Ms. Clinton?

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #40)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:59 PM

41. Exactly!!!!

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:30 PM

2. well johnny, imagine if Obama had won with the help of the russians? would you have just moved on?

and 'shut up'?

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Response to spanone (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:34 PM

6. Moreover, imagine if the FBI had targeted McCain with their lies and allowed him to portrayed

as a criminal. The GOP, and especially McCain, would be screaming about it forever.

Then again, the Democrats would never have corrupted the FBI the way that the GOP did.

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Response to spanone (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:43 PM

21. I can be cold so i'll say it

McCain will be moving on first.
Being terminally ill doesn't give you the right to be a ReTHUG asshole.

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Response to malaise (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:48 PM

22. 👁👃🏽👁

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:32 PM

3. The rules are now changed Sen McCain

We keep analyzing and don't let faux winners write history.

We know know we are in a battle for democracy and human rights and we intend to fight.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:33 PM

4. Did anyone tell him to shut up in public?

Probably not.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:33 PM

5. Thanks Sen. McCain ...

For Man 'splainin on WHY Hillary needs to "move on." "Forget about it." "Sit down and be quite now little lady."

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:42 PM

7. The guy who was hornswoggled into thinking Sarah Palin had credibilty as a VP candidate?

No, I don't have to take anything he says seriously. He laid the groundwork for choosing a non-serious person to run for high office.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:45 PM

8. Thats a particularly nasty comment doesn't have anything to do

She’s always been a busy women, and I don’t see that changing.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:47 PM

9. He never gave the same advice to Palin

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Response to lame54 (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:48 PM

10. +1

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Response to lame54 (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:25 PM

38. + 2

Amen.

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Response to lame54 (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:18 AM

51. +3

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Response to lame54 (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:31 AM

53. +1,000,000

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:52 PM

11. Do we need a book review from someone who hasn't read the book?

GTFOH, Senator.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:53 PM

12. "The hardest thing to do is to just shut up."

I trust he's shared this wisdom with the crooked orange baboon in the White House.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:55 PM

13. Move On Where?

Another planet?. She hasn't asked to be the subject of so many conversations, mainly negative. You'd think she was president.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:58 PM

14. Hey McCain - Take your own fucking advice!

The Republican Party as you know & love it is DEAD, and the final nail in its coffin was this ass-clown president. YOU need to move the fuck on & stop supporting it with your yea votes on anti-executive and anti-judiciary nominees.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 03:19 PM

15. So the "little lady" is supposed to keep quiet when the media, the Hillary haters, the republicans,

and some non-republicans left and right continue to trash and condemn her.

I have one word for these LITTLE PEOPLE:


BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to still_one (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:47 PM

27. Hillary can be and will be attacked everywhere, including here. And we cant do shit about it.

The right orchestrated a life long propaganda campaign that worked.

Worked good, real good.

McCain has to vote against the tax deal otherwise go down in history as a pile of shit.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #27)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:37 PM

30. My point Eliot is that Hillary has every right to speak out, especially when others continue to

distort and misrepresent her, and those calling for her to just go away, are are the worst kind of hypocrites

As for the tax bill, the odds are against us



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Response to still_one (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:38 PM

31. Agree completely. McCain should know better too. He knows Hillary was Putin's worst

nightmare and they have that in common McCain and HRC.

McCain is an asshole often, but he is not a traitor. He should god damn DO SOMETHING.

Oh, and as I have tweeted to both Hillary and her daughter Chelsea, NEVER stop talking please! There is a REASON certain groups want her to shut up, if everybody else would just think about it for a god damn minute.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:41 PM

33. No John McCain isn't a traitor, and I hope he does the right thing like he did with the ACA repeal

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Response to still_one (Reply #33)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:42 PM

34. The effects of the tax bill and the perception that dumbshit was successful; the harm

will be so overwhelming we will never recover.

It will also provide even greater coverage for the russians to flip votes, again, next year.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:37 PM

16. "... the 'attacks' Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., leveled at her ..."

I'm 71 and have watched many primaries.
Candidates always attack their opponents .

You always say you're the better candidate, and my opponent is "a bum".

Good grief.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #16)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 03:31 AM

45. No, not always. I remember Jesse Jacksons concession speech in 1988

 

Where he paid tribute to Michael Dukakis for not engaging in demagoguery against him.

There was a lot of demagoguery used against Hillary.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #45)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:43 AM

54. "There was a lot of demagoguery used against Hillary"

Yep. That's part of running for political office.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #54)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 03:44 PM

57. No, its not. nt

 

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 12:55 PM

59. I know of two people who wouldn't have voted for her if it weren't for Bernie's plea. nt

 

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:07 PM

17. That's really funny.

Coming from a guy that has several memoirs about his family and personal experiences that he has co-written.

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Response to rogue emissary (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:02 PM

35. it's stunningly hypocritical.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:12 PM

18. I was not aware McCain won the popular vote in 2008

I was also not aware that McCain got over it. It's not like he supported every piece of republican obstruction or anything.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:13 PM

19. The whole Russia/treason thing is unique to Clinton

and that election cycle and is ongoing. She is not going anywhere. There’s an investigation and it has historical context. She’s not going anywhere, so best get used to it.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:41 PM

20. Hillary Clinton doesn't need McCain's approval

I doubt she cares what he thinks. She can write and say what she wants, and too bad if McCain doesn't like it.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:21 PM

24. She won

she knows it, McCain knows it. Fuck that move on shit.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #24)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:28 PM

25. That's just patently false...

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Response to Baconator (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:05 PM

28. What?

That she won the popular vote and between voter suppression in key States, the Russians and Comey, Trump squeaked out the electoral college?

That is false?

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Response to edhopper (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 12:41 PM

58. That's not what you said...

You said "She won"...

She had such a thin lead due to a long list of mistakes that all of those things you listed were enough to tip the scales even against someone as despised as Trump...

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Response to Baconator (Reply #58)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:06 PM

60. You can't rewrite history.

There was no "thin lead due to a long list of mistakes".

Time had just written an article that she was on the verge of an unbreakable lead. She had an 18% chance of losing the electoral college. The Comey letter almost immediately sank Clinton’s polls. It was the dominant story of the last 10 days of the campaign.

Pretending otherwise is just that. Pretending.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #60)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:05 PM

61. I don't think anyone who is looking at it objectively...

... would suggest that Comey and his letter didn't have some effect on the polls.

My point is that her lead was so fragile that any moderate bump in road (which almost always happens) was enough to derail the whole thing.

A better strategy or a stronger candidate would have had enough buffer to take a hit like that against the most disliked candidate in the modern era. Except that his opponent was the second most disliked.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/08/31/poll-clinton-trump-most-unfavorable-candidates-ever/89644296/

Also, you contradict yourself in your own post... An unbreakable lead does not equal 18%. Those aren't even Russian Roullete odds.

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Response to Baconator (Reply #61)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:25 PM

62. An 18% chance of losing the electoral college.

Meaning an 82% chance of winning.

But nice try.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #62)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:56 PM

65. I don't think you understand what 18% means...

That's a 1 in 5 or 6ish chance of a loss.



People don't understand probability.

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Response to Baconator (Reply #65)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 04:20 PM

66. I don't think you understand thin margin.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #66)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 04:45 PM

67. Ohhh... if only everything had gone perfectly...

... and everyone had lined up in an orderly manner with no ugly dissenting opinions, and no one was mean, and nothing unexpected happened.

That was was the plan and it sucked.

The campaign was vulnerable from day 1 for a multitude of reasons and we shouldn't be too surprised when someone took advantage of it.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:44 PM

26. Calls to "move on" are hilarious given that there is currently an investigation

GOING ON looking at 2016's GE.

This is just one more asshat telling Hillary to shut up. It's okay for the "marish and parish" to talk about Russian interference and this godawful administration, but NOT okay for the candidate herself to talk about the trumpster fire.

HillaryEnvy/Hate/Jealousy ,whatever the fuck it is , never fails to make those guilty of it look like morons.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:07 PM

29. He's absolutely correct. nt

 

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Response to woolldog (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:03 PM

36. Move on, Hillary!

The quicker she fades away the better.

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Response to woolldog (Reply #29)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 07:32 AM

47. A lot of us want her to stick around long after Trump is gone...maybe even behind bars.

 

She has been right about a lot of things. Especially that Trump turned out to be exactly what she said he would be as President. No Hillary, do not move on. MOVE FORWARD!

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:40 PM

32. ,,,

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:21 PM

37. seriously tho.

it's hilarious how she gets under people's skin. Poor souls.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:19 AM

52. exactly. Mc5planes is

just the latest in a long list.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:50 PM

39. Does he mean "move on" like Al Gore had to "move on" after HIS election was stolen?

When will the issue of elections being stolen instead of won/lost become the predominant meme?

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Mon Nov 27, 2017, 11:07 PM

42. He hadn't stopped Christmas from coming! It came!

Somehow or other, it came just the same!

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 03:22 AM

44. mccain told her to shut up. Yet she persisted.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 07:18 AM

46. Jeez....

if you really think this is helpful advice, say it to her privately.

No? You want to say it publicly?

Then you're doing this to score a political point.... nothing more.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 07:36 AM

48. tell that to Trump

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:02 AM

49. Irony Alert: McCain isn't taking his own advice, by virtue of speaking

 

of Hillary and her book!

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:18 AM

50. It's not the same in that

McCain did not have a Bernie figure. And he lost the popular vote. And he can write a book if he wants to. People need to quit telling Hillary what to do.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:49 AM

55. A nice little bit of mansplaining.

 

I've heard similar around here.

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:53 AM

56. Shut up and move on while Trump destroys the country?

The person McCain lost to brought the country back from the brink of destruction. The person Clinton lost* to is bringing the country to the brink of destruction.




*I'm not convinced that she really lost

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Response to Baconator (Original post)

Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:29 PM

63. A man who has 6 books to his name, says a woman should STFU

and not write a book.

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