Why is everybody saying Trump's tax cut Bill is going to pass?

[Solomon]

I don't get it.

[yallerdawg]

1. One version has passed the House.

The Senate will be voting on their version tomorrow "sometime late in the night." They need 50 senators plus Pence, but think they have 52.

If they lose 3 Republican votes by tomorrow night, it could stop.

If it passes, it has to go through the reconciliation process aligning the House and Senate versions. Then, both houses vote again.

THIS is what they want to pass before Christmas.

[brooklynite]

2. Everybody isn't...

[Solomon]

8. Sure seems like it. Even the people who don't like it seem to be resigned to the idea that

it's going to pass.

[SoCalMusicLover]

3. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Their true base have drawn a line in the sand.

It is up to the repubs to convince as much of the poor & middle-class morons in their party, that this bill does not SUCK, even though it does.

They need the $$$$$$$$$$$ from their true base, however, so they can have it to campaign and try to fool the rest of their so-called base come November 2018.

[COLGATE4]

4. Because the Rethugs ALWAYS get in line. They have

the 51 votes in the Senate they need (and they may actually wind up with a couple of DINO votes as well). Then it's just more make-believe while the House and Senate get together and make a compromise bill that Trump will piss his pants waiting to sign. And then, we're not only fucked from the outset but the (hidden) nasty part is that, because this will force an increase in the defecit of 1.5 Trillion (with a "T&quot dollars automatic spending cuts kick in which will decimate Medicare. And, as a sequel, the Rethugs will clutch their pearls in horror at the very idea that we have such a huge deficit and will immediately begin looking for ways to make up for it by further cutting Medicare, and Medicaid and Social Security. This tax "cut" is the Republican wet dream that many thought could never happen. But happen it did and we and our kids are going to pay an enormous price for this horrible piece of legislation!

[Hortensis]

5. Don't know, but it's the donor class's tax cut bill,

Rump's just the name on it. If it passes, we're all immediately in debt to the tune of several trillions of dollars to the donor class and come January the first payment is automatically paid by cannibalizing programs meant to serve us.

[hatrack]

6. Because Congress is controlled by greedy, soulless, ideologically poisonous cocksuckers .. . .

That's why.

[bearsfootball516]

7. Its still possible it wont pass.

But this article makes it sound like they have the votes.

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/senate/362395-murkowski-will-vote-for-tax-bill%3famp

Hence why I think Trump is acting even more insane than usual right now. He knows they have he votes and he’s doing everything possible to keep the spotlight on himself and off the tax bill.

[spotthebird]

13. Don't hope, it hurts too much when we lose. nt

[Solomon]

9. It's just hard to believe that every republican can vote for such a load of crap. They couldn't

repeal Obamacare but they can pass this shit?

[OriginalGeek]

10. Jeff Flake on NPR this morning said

the only people it really hurts are the ones in high tax states.

Are not the higher tax states also the more blue ones?

So Repubs don't care if those people get hurt

BUT

Are there enough of them to make a big enough noise to defeat this thing?

assuming Flake is correct it worries me that middle class and poor people who don't lose anything will just let it slide.

edit to add: I don't assume Flake is correct. I actually assume he is wrong or lying BUT what if enough people do think he's right? Even if just temporarily...

[Solomon]

14. Why would anyone other than the Trump cultists think this plan is anything but evil?

It's like people are accepting it as something that might work but it's a fricking nightmare. Kind of reminds me the way people looked the other way with the Access Hollywood tape. I just don't get it. Like I said, I understand the deplorables, but I don't get the media and pundits who, instead of ridiculing the thing to hell like they should be doing, seem to be eating popcorn and watching the train wreck.

[OriginalGeek]

18. Trumpists are given

I am not convinced the rest of the populace know enough about the plan to worry about it as long as they don't think they are getting the shaft. And there seems to be a lot of folks out there willing to tell poor and middle class people that they'll be fine. I only hear bad things about it here and on NPR when someone other than a repub is being asked about it. Most of America doesn't read DU or listen to NPR.

[dawg]

11. Because there isn't a singe elected Republican who we trust to do the right thing.

Not a damn one of them.

It's possible that three of them could come down with a bad case of conscience and torpedo this thing. But it isn't all that likely. At least not on this first go-around.

[CrispyQ]

12. Because they need a win so badly on this, that even the 'moderate' repubs will vote yes,

in spite of their misgivings. Koch/Mercer will cut off piggy bank access if this doesn't pass. That's their main concern. But they also look like fools, since they control both chambers but still can't govern. Buy your ear plugs now, cuz the gloating & chortling will be unbearable.

[Solomon]

16. If they manage to do it, I really believe it will

eventually lead to riots in the streets. Like some serious French revolution kind of shit. They really are destroying America.

[SoCalMusicLover]

21. Doubtful

Not if the choice is that or watching a new episode of Keeping Up With The Kardashians.

There will be protests, to be sure, and the media will cover them briefly, before going on to other things. Meanwhile the tax bill will become law, and hurt Millions for years to come.

[Solomon]

22. That's my point though. They will have to gut social security, Medicare and God knows what else.

He's already talking about welfare reform. I just don't see how the majority of people will just say ok and accept this. The majority of people are not rich. I can't help but feel that people who know better are fucking complicit in all of this.

[Cicada]

15. PredictIt market: 63% odds passage this year

[Bleacher Creature]

17. Because the so-called "moderate" Republicans in the Senate have no backbone.

And a few of the folks on our side are a bit squishy.

[beaglelover]

19. I believe a tax bill will be signed by Trump by end of year and it will SUCK for me

since I'm a homeowner in CA. It will probably also bring down our home values out here. Oh well, we can make it better once we take control which WILL happen at some point in the near future.

[0rganism]

20. odds are that it will

and it will only be the first of much demented Trump-era legislation that comes through to re-shape our nationscape