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Cornel West comes for Ta-Nehisi Coates - and gets owned (Original Post) EffieBlack Dec 2017 OP
The replies are gems. OilemFirchen Dec 2017 #1
When your book report is due before you've even read the first few pages... lunasun Dec 2017 #2
Doc .... LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #3
Wow. How embarrassing for West. yardwork Dec 2017 #4
👍 Ta-Nehisi Coates. Cornel West is a Fellow at the Sanders Institute Wwcd Dec 2017 #5
What did West say? brush Dec 2017 #6
I been looking for the back story too, but I love anyone who owns West Hamlette Dec 2017 #11
Cornell still hurt he didn't get prime inauguration seats? RhodeIslandOne Dec 2017 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #8
Have you ever considered starting your own forum? uppityperson Dec 2017 #9
has she ever truly "considered" anything, I wonder? NRaleighLiberal Dec 2017 #10
Bullshit! Glamrock Dec 2017 #12
Um, what? I was suggesting starting her own forum to a frequent flyer troll. uppityperson Dec 2017 #13
Exactly! Glamrock Dec 2017 #16
What? LG is Cornell? I said nothing about Cornell. What? uppityperson Dec 2017 #17
Wtf are you talking about? Glamrock Dec 2017 #20
The banned one that I replied to? Somehow you jumped onto this subthread blasting me for the OP. uppityperson Dec 2017 #21
You win Glamrock Dec 2017 #22
I don't even know who he is. Ask the OP. Here's that link. uppityperson Dec 2017 #25
Like I said Glamrock Dec 2017 #27
Ok, just trying to help clear up a confusion. Have a good night. uppityperson Dec 2017 #28
Back atcha! Glamrock Dec 2017 #29
What would it be called? greatauntoftriplets Dec 2017 #18
Two things occurred to me: grantcart Dec 2017 #14
This is rather meaningless w/o cornel West context Roland99 Dec 2017 #15
The tweet responded to by Ta-Nehisi quotes Cornel West. blogslut Dec 2017 #24
Here ya go oberliner Dec 2017 #34
Jesus. One fucking click away, but some are demanding "context". OilemFirchen Dec 2017 #19
Thanks. Everyone is not on twitter, plus, most who post tweets post the 1st tweet and the response. brush Dec 2017 #23
Gotcha. OilemFirchen Dec 2017 #26
Thank you. That is enlightening. Hekate Dec 2017 #31
I hate to say it.... DaDeacon Dec 2017 #30
West is over. Coates has joined Dyson, Harris-Perry, Gates, Tyson, Morrison and others not tainted.. brush Dec 2017 #33
Typical for the types who call Democrats "neoliberals" all the time. betsuni Dec 2017 #32
oh I'm here for this...this gives me life! JHan Dec 2017 #35
K&R Gothmog Dec 2017 #36
Not even Coates is pure and black and "progressive" enough, apparently. ehrnst Dec 2017 #37
Funny with everything going down, agincourt Dec 2017 #38

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
2. When your book report is due before you've even read the first few pages...
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:06 PM
Dec 2017


BH❄dges🎙
@LifeOnaPlate
Replying to @africasacountry and 3 others
When your book report is due before you've even read the first few pages...
2:59 PM · Dec 4, 2017

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
3. Doc ....
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:41 PM
Dec 2017

Really needs to go sit his Jill Stein-supporting, Hillary is a neo-liberal-whose-worse-than-tRumputin ass down somewhere 😑

**pwned **



 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
5. 👍 Ta-Nehisi Coates. Cornel West is a Fellow at the Sanders Institute
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:22 PM
Dec 2017

THIS is why I take such issue with the purpose of their Institute.
West continues to prove the opposite of everything the Institute claims to be about.

I cannot respect anything he is involved with.

Appreciate Ta-Nehisi Coates pointing out my feelings as well.

Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
9. Have you ever considered starting your own forum?
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:39 PM
Dec 2017

You could set the rules, moderate. It might be a better use of time and energy.

Glamrock

(11,800 posts)
12. Bullshit!
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:45 PM
Dec 2017

You can't name a post Cornel West comes for....

And have no mention of Cornel West's statement. There's absolutely no context. WTF, man.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
13. Um, what? I was suggesting starting her own forum to a frequent flyer troll.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:47 PM
Dec 2017

"There's absolutely no context. WTF, man. "

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
21. The banned one that I replied to? Somehow you jumped onto this subthread blasting me for the OP.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:58 PM
Dec 2017

If you want to know what the OP means, reply to them.

Glamrock

(11,800 posts)
22. You win
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:03 AM
Dec 2017

I was wrong. I apologize. Totally in the wrong. May God strike me down and all that come from my loins. I beg your forgiveness. I still have no fucking idea what Cornell West said that got him "totally owned."

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
25. I don't even know who he is. Ask the OP. Here's that link.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:08 AM
Dec 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9926891
That's the link to the OP.

Yelling "Bull shit, etc, context" at me in a subthread reply to an oft banned troll seems to not address your questions in any manner.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
14. Two things occurred to me:
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:47 PM
Dec 2017

1) Didn't West used to be somebody.

2) This is why we can't have nice things anymore.

blogslut

(38,000 posts)
24. The tweet responded to by Ta-Nehisi quotes Cornel West.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:04 AM
Dec 2017

Here is the NYT article with West where the quote is:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/magazine/cornel-west-doesnt-want-to-be-a-neoliberal-darling.html

In the original introduction to “Race Matters,” you wrote that there was a crisis of black leadership. Now we’re seeing this whole new generation of black activists: Black Lives Matter, or even N.F.L. athletes taking a knee during the national anthem. Do you still see this crisis? Well, I was talking about the crisis of black elite leadership. When it comes to black leaders, if the model is to be successful but not publicly attack white supremacy — well, then that’s really about success to fit in. Fitting in, in a neoliberal world, is to be well adjusted to injustice. I’ll give you an example: Dear brother Ta-Nehisi Coates has just come out with a new book.

Yes. “We Were Eight Years in Power.” Who’s the “we”? When’s the last time he’s been through the ghetto, in the hoods, to the schools and indecent housing and mass unemployment? We were in power for eight years? My God. Maybe he and some of his friends might have been in power, but not poor working people...


Here is the quote tweeted by the account: @africasacountry




AFRICA IS A COUNTRY? @africasacountry

"@tanehisicoates has just come out with [“We Were Eight Years in Power]. Who’s the “we”? ... We were in power for eight years? My God. Maybe he and some of his friends might have been in power, but not poor working people."
-- @CornelWest to @nytimes

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
34. Here ya go
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 06:30 AM
Dec 2017
I’ll give you an example: Dear brother Ta-Nehisi Coates has just come out with a new book.

Yes. “We Were Eight Years in Power.” Who’s the “we”? When’s the last time he’s been through the ghetto, in the hoods, to the schools and indecent housing and mass unemployment? We were in power for eight years? My God. Maybe he and some of his friends might have been in power, but not poor working people.

There are a lot of black intellectuals dissecting these issues. Coates is just one them. That’s true. But I mention him because he is currently the darling of the white and black neoliberal establishment.

At one point, someone might have said the same thing of you. Oh, they tried to make me the darling of the liberal establishment. I refused it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/magazine/cornel-west-doesnt-want-to-be-a-neoliberal-darling.html

brush

(53,776 posts)
23. Thanks. Everyone is not on twitter, plus, most who post tweets post the 1st tweet and the response.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:04 AM
Dec 2017
 

DaDeacon

(984 posts)
30. I hate to say it....
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:38 AM
Dec 2017

But, If Brother West wants to continue to be a public intellectual he needs to act like it. Read books before he comments on them, and not attack others but rather discuss ideas. Brother West took the "L" on this one.

brush

(53,776 posts)
33. West is over. Coates has joined Dyson, Harris-Perry, Gates, Tyson, Morrison and others not tainted..
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:52 AM
Dec 2017

by open jealously of the Obamas like West and Tavis Smiley.

betsuni

(25,519 posts)
32. Typical for the types who call Democrats "neoliberals" all the time.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:57 AM
Dec 2017

They assume, take things literally, mindlessly believe things they've heard and react emotionally rather than find out the facts for themselves.

West's comment was particularly stupid since the full title of the book is "We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy."

agincourt

(1,996 posts)
38. Funny with everything going down,
Mon Dec 25, 2017, 12:46 PM
Dec 2017

Cornell West's main thing to be mad about is the Ta-Nehisi Coates book. One year into the age of Trump and the main thing to be mad about is "liberals" and "neo-liberals". Progressives like that need to get out of politics and take up basket weaving or Wal-mart greeting.

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