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mahina

(18,274 posts)
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:31 PM Dec 2017

What the hell are we going to do to un-brainwash the 32% of this country still likes this douche b

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What the hell are we going to do to un-brainwash the 32% of this country still likes this douche b (Original Post) mahina Dec 2017 OP
can't be done.. chillfactor Dec 2017 #1
This Hayduke Bomgarte Dec 2017 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #26
Brian dead. I like that. Zorro Dec 2017 #31
This poll makes no sense and is close to unintelligble. rzemanfl Dec 2017 #2
I can only read half the screen at a time and am not the best at typing with my thumbs. mahina Dec 2017 #3
My idea is this is not going to end well and it gets uglier to watch every day. rzemanfl Dec 2017 #6
Hound them to HELL LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #4
He will go as low as about 24 pct. roamer65 Dec 2017 #5
Until the media stops legitimate zing racism, sexism, and bigotry, it wont change still_one Dec 2017 #7
better to get them to not vote for repubs for congress. let em love trump, congress is the bad crowd msongs Dec 2017 #8
Wait for them to die Cicada Dec 2017 #10
They didn't need to be brainwashed maxrandb Dec 2017 #11
You want to imprison people based on how they voted? Marengo Dec 2017 #43
Yes maxrandb Dec 2017 #46
What about those who didnt vote, or voted third party? Arent they just as culpable? Marengo Dec 2017 #49
No maxrandb Dec 2017 #52
Abstaining from voting for ideological reasons or voting third party were also conscious and... Marengo Dec 2017 #53
You can't fix stupid RainCaster Dec 2017 #12
There are people who dont vote ever. cwydro Dec 2017 #13
Be satisfied Awsi Dooger Dec 2017 #14
Still waiting to see the wins maxrandb Dec 2017 #48
Find a way to get Fox News off the air. Different Drummer Dec 2017 #15
Reinstate the fairness doctrine. roamer65 Dec 2017 #23
Also find some way to control hate radio dhol82 Dec 2017 #51
They're not the ones to worry about. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #16
I don't trust polls after the election, the brainwash % is higher noel1237 Dec 2017 #17
Get as many of the remaining 68% to vote democratic Iahotdog Dec 2017 #18
we drag them, kicking and screaming, to freedom and prosperity........... Takket Dec 2017 #19
Oh man, I read you 100%. So just like we've done before, knock on doors, mahina Dec 2017 #22
It's a lost cause. budkin Dec 2017 #20
You're right Abouttime Dec 2017 #33
What the hell dude. mahina Dec 2017 #35
How would this purge work? What criteria would be used to determine if someone needs purging? Marengo Dec 2017 #45
Put birth control in their Mountain Dew? NightWatcher Dec 2017 #21
They put Mountain Dew in their baby's bottle. That'd be cruel. It's bad enough rzemanfl Dec 2017 #28
They aren't brainwashed, they're assholes Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #24
+1 mahina Dec 2017 #36
Think that 68% of Americans dislike him to a large extent. Blue_true Dec 2017 #25
Absolutely NOTHING! I remember when Nixon was forced to resign. There were about the same napi21 Dec 2017 #27
Got you but its taken this much for him to get there. mahina Dec 2017 #37
We can do it. We need to engage on Fox, Limbaugh, right-wing radio. Tell your friends. sharedvalues Dec 2017 #29
Another line about Fox sharedvalues Dec 2017 #30
Since they are running the show GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #32
First, we have to understand them. McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #34
0% chance JCMach1 Dec 2017 #38
Even if a few could be reached, the amount of time and effort would be too great a price to pay. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #39
Nothing. There is no cure for stupid. Lil Missy Dec 2017 #40
From what I've read in the past, area51 Dec 2017 #41
It's all about racism Books_Tea_Alone Dec 2017 #42
No way to do it. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #44
Wait for them to die? GreenEyedLefty Dec 2017 #47
The 32% is not the problem. kentuck Dec 2017 #50
Something that teaches them that reality matters treestar Dec 2017 #54
We ARE beating this, just not in ways you can readily see Fluke a Snooker Dec 2017 #55
Don't worry about them for now. Nixon never went below 24% struggle4progress Dec 2017 #56
They only understand strength and cruelty. dawg Dec 2017 #57

Response to chillfactor (Reply #1)

mahina

(18,274 posts)
3. I can only read half the screen at a time and am not the best at typing with my thumbs.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:41 PM
Dec 2017

Maybe you have some ideas about how we can bring back a reality-based civil society. If you care to share your thoughts, I would be interested to read them.

In case you’re interested, here are links to some people and pegs involved in community peacemaking and reconciliation.

http://www.aeinstein.org
The Albert Einstein Institution works to advance the worldwide study and strategic use of nonviolent action. Our work on this topic has been translated into dozens of languages. Visit our online library to access all currently available digital resources.

https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Peace-Transforming-Conflict
World/dp/0756768128


rzemanfl

(29,913 posts)
6. My idea is this is not going to end well and it gets uglier to watch every day.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:45 PM
Dec 2017

Last edited Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:02 AM - Edit history (1)

I could not possibly post from a phone. Mine was 8 bucks at Walgreens and folds in the middle.

Good luck to us all.

LiberalFighter

(52,712 posts)
4. Hound them to HELL
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:42 PM
Dec 2017

Make their life miserable.

Drive them underground so they never see the light of day.

By the way. They can't be un-brainwashed.

roamer65

(36,867 posts)
5. He will go as low as about 24 pct.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:43 PM
Dec 2017

That is the true amount of deplorable, brainwashed, backwash established by Nixon in August 1974.

Those cannot be redeemed.

msongs

(68,419 posts)
8. better to get them to not vote for repubs for congress. let em love trump, congress is the bad crowd
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:05 PM
Dec 2017

maxrandb

(15,654 posts)
11. They didn't need to be brainwashed
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:23 PM
Dec 2017

They actually believe and support the shit Donnie Short Fingers and the Retrumplican party is feeding them.

I have a solution for them. It's called prison!

maxrandb

(15,654 posts)
46. Yes
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:34 AM
Dec 2017

That's what the election of Donnie Short Fingers has done to me.

I can't find a single redeeming quality in any of the people that voted for and support this fascist shitstain.

They need to be treated like the Vichy French

maxrandb

(15,654 posts)
52. No
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:47 AM
Dec 2017

Voting for Donnie Short Fingers was not an accident.

It's not like they were walking down the street, tripped, fell into a voting booth and accidentally hit their head on the Trump button.

It was a conscious, premeditated action. They listened to all that hate, bigotry, bullying, racism and fascism and said; "sure, that's the direction I want the country to go"

Fuck every last one of them sideways with a First Edition hard cover copy of Atlas Shrugged.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
53. Abstaining from voting for ideological reasons or voting third party were also conscious and...
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:13 AM
Dec 2017

Premeditated actions that helped place Trump in office. Refusing to vote against the obvious hate, racism, etc. is just as responsible.

RainCaster

(11,100 posts)
12. You can't fix stupid
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:25 PM
Dec 2017

They are idiots who do not have a basis in reality. We can only show them by example- first we have to outnumber them in the voting booth. Then perhaps they will see that their well being actually got better when we took more taxes from the top 1%.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. There are people who dont vote ever.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:28 PM
Dec 2017

These folks can change things.

How can we get them to get off their butts am register, then vote?

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
14. Be satisfied
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:31 PM
Dec 2017

We'll win everything of consequence as long as Trump remains in the 32% range.

I post on sports message boards every day. Those forums are loaded with right wing morons and you would think it was closer to 92% support based on that sample alone. I'm always thrilled to find out it's still low 30s.

maxrandb

(15,654 posts)
48. Still waiting to see the wins
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:41 AM
Dec 2017

Lost on welfare tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires

Lost on Supreme Court

Lost on the fascist judges being packed in the Federal Court

Lost on Muslim ban

Lost on police reform

Lost on consumer protection

Lost on dumping chemical waste in the gulf of Mexico

Lost on the environment

And... we're about to replace a champion of woman's rights in the Senate with a pedophile

And folks wonder why I feel Retrumplican deplorable voters should face prison for what they've done to our country

 

noel1237

(25 posts)
17. I don't trust polls after the election, the brainwash % is higher
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:48 PM
Dec 2017

and I don't have a good answer to change it.

Takket

(22,182 posts)
19. we drag them, kicking and screaming, to freedom and prosperity...........
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:06 PM
Dec 2017

we out number them 2 to 1............... GOTV

mahina

(18,274 posts)
22. Oh man, I read you 100%. So just like we've done before, knock on doors,
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:26 PM
Dec 2017

remind again to vote, then drive them to the polls.

I'll dust off my clipboard!

budkin

(6,849 posts)
20. It's a lost cause.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:07 PM
Dec 2017

He could literally sacrifice a baby on live TV and they would love him even more.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
33. You're right
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:31 AM
Dec 2017

Every society reaches the point where some sort of 'purge' is necessary otherwise a war breaks out. War has been an all to frequent theme in human history.
I think unfortunately we will come to a point, maybe trump has already forced us there, where we will have to peacefully, re-educate, reform, or restrain a significant portion of that third of society who sees and deals with the world the wrong way.
Luckily the two thirds of us who see things the right way are compassionate and instead of a bloody war we can engineer a peaceful solution.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
45. How would this purge work? What criteria would be used to determine if someone needs purging?
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:57 AM
Dec 2017

Would they be physically separated from rest of society? What government agencies would be responsible for purging? What kind of peaceful solution would be applied to those who resist purging?

NightWatcher

(39,348 posts)
21. Put birth control in their Mountain Dew?
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:08 PM
Dec 2017

Then our kid's generation won't have to deal with these schmucks' kids.

rzemanfl

(29,913 posts)
28. They put Mountain Dew in their baby's bottle. That'd be cruel. It's bad enough
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:04 AM
Dec 2017

their milk teeth rot.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. Think that 68% of Americans dislike him to a large extent.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:46 PM
Dec 2017

Get the 68% voting regularly and the 32% won't matter.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
27. Absolutely NOTHING! I remember when Nixon was forced to resign. There were about the same
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:00 AM
Dec 2017

30% of Pubs who still liked him and demonstrated against him being ousted. In fact those same people, if still alive, probably still like him and believe what was done to him was wrong. Con man's approval #s have been slowly falling over the 11 months he's beden in office. We MUST win back the House & Senate and give him the old heave-ho.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
29. We can do it. We need to engage on Fox, Limbaugh, right-wing radio. Tell your friends.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:05 AM
Dec 2017

The best way to un-brainwash the country is for each one of us to go out and tell everyone we know to stop watching Fox and listening to Limbaugh and right-wing radio.

When you go somewhere and Fox is on - walk up to the owner and say something like "I don't want lies like this on while my kids are around, will you please turn off the TV?"

Instead of talking to your family members about politics - tell them how Limbaugh lies. "Remember when Limbaugh said Hurricane Irma was a liberal hoax and then three days later he evacuated without ever correcting himself? He tells lies about politics like that every day."

I know it's uncomfortable. But if you want to un-brainwash people you MUST engage them on propaganda. Friends don't let friends watch Fox or listen to Limbaugh or read Breitbart or other right wing sources.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
30. Another line about Fox
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:07 AM
Dec 2017

"If people love America, they shouldn't listen to lies orchestrated by an Australian. Rupert Murdoch is a foreigner who is lying to America to put more money in his pocket by getting votes for tax cuts on billionaires"

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
39. Even if a few could be reached, the amount of time and effort would be too great a price to pay.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:24 AM
Dec 2017

These are folks who will spite themselves if it means hurting persons of color to a greater extent, people who don't care that Trump openly bragged about committing sexual assault, people who believe wholeheartedly in absurdly nonsensical religious notions, etc.

Time is better spent getting involved in local civil rights organizations, raising hell about voter suppression and gerrymandering, increasing turnout among the young and others, raising hell about kleptocracy, etc.

area51

(12,007 posts)
41. From what I've read in the past,
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:06 AM
Dec 2017

at least 30% of the US population would be happy to have fascism in this country.

Books_Tea_Alone

(253 posts)
42. It's all about racism
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:28 AM
Dec 2017

Every deplorable I know here in northern New Jersey, including my family and neighbors, have expressed extreme racist views towards African-Americans & Hispanics. These people are wealthy and educated but as stated above watch faux news and hated the fact that we had an African- American President for eight yrs.
A woman didn't stand much of a chance in their eyes either.
They will never change their racist views & pass it down to their children. They are unreachable and are not able to be reasoned with or changed.

kentuck

(111,667 posts)
50. The 32% is not the problem.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:16 AM
Dec 2017

It is the 16% that follow the 32%. The simple-minded partisans that always follow their Party, no matter what.

 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
55. We ARE beating this, just not in ways you can readily see
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:42 PM
Dec 2017

All over the country, Democrats and progressives have been taking over city councils, mayorships, school boards, and country supervisor positions, as well as making inroads on statewide legislative offices. For instance, in Westchester County, just outside of NYC, the Democrats swept all but TWO seats in EVERY city in every council member and mayor race, and while they were Democrat majority already, they had swept out EVERY republican from office, making this a progressive lockdown that will never go back.

This is happening ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

While we will get a big win in 2018 when we retake the senate, the hammer blow will occur when we win the presidency with Kamala Harris, indict every Trump family member, and retake the Senate with a near-60% majority, along with a healthy House majority. At that point, the Republicans will be COMPLETELY spent, and our guys will enact judicial reforms and restructure voting protocols to ensure the GOP remains forever on the outside looking in.

Mark my words! The GOP is definitely snookered, permanently.

struggle4progress

(118,701 posts)
56. Don't worry about them for now. Nixon never went below 24%
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:49 PM
Dec 2017

though after his resignation it was difficult to find people who would admit voting for him

Some diehard Trump supporters will never change their minds

Others will experience inner conflicts; then they'll move to weak support for him; then they'll move to into some "uncertain" position (such as refused-to-answer-pollster or all-politicians-are-crooks); then they'll head for weak opposition to him. This group might well be influenced by friends and neighbors drifting from Trumplandia into saner regions, so take aim at the mushy center

dawg

(10,651 posts)
57. They only understand strength and cruelty.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:55 PM
Dec 2017

When we're back in power, they would cower to us if we act strong and cruel enough. Thankfully, that isn't in our nature.

Personally, I'm just hoping that the failure of Trumpism will permanently discourage a significant number of these people from ever getting involved in the political process again. I'll be more than satisfied for them to slink off into their holes, muttering "it's all rigged". I know we'll never get them to embrace our values.

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