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shraby

(21,946 posts)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:41 PM Jul 2012

Penalties at Penn State should not punish the students who had no say in what the leadership

at the school did. The punishment should be on the order of cleaning out the top in the administration and in the football program..all coaches, ass't. coaches, etc. who were even remotely involved in what happened.
Rehire from scratch and vet the people applying closely.
Anything less such as no games for a year is punishing the kids who go to school there, not the people who caused the problem.

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Penalties at Penn State should not punish the students who had no say in what the leadership (Original Post) shraby Jul 2012 OP
Kinda shitty, but it happens all the time. Collateral damage. russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #1
That seems one fundamental essence of corporatism. NT Trillo Jul 2012 #2
Didn't you hear? alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #3
My son is a senior @ PSU Freddie Jul 2012 #4
Does your son play football for PSU? justiceischeap Jul 2012 #5
No Freddie Jul 2012 #8
Stop the football program but don't punish academics. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #6
The kids who want to play ball will be allowed to transfer without any penalty. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #7
I can't agree mythology Jul 2012 #9
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
3. Didn't you hear?
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:50 PM
Jul 2012

The correct punishment is to raze the school and all affiliated campuses to the ground, then salt them over. Anybody living within 30 miles of Old Main is to be relocated to Central Arkansas and indentured to local farmers there for a period of no less than 45 months. All degrees issued by the school since 1900 are to be voided, and all existing loans related to tuition doubled. In addition, anybody caught wearing any Penn State football attire of any kind is to be fined their net worth + $600 USD, which sum will be distributed to the victims. After paying, the guilty wearer will be shot.

It's the only thing that'll learn 'em!

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
4. My son is a senior @ PSU
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 04:19 PM
Jul 2012

I couldn't agree with you more. Not all students there are blindly worshipping JoePa; most are angry and disgusted by the whole thing and delighted that Sandusky will spend the rest of his life in prison.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
5. Does your son play football for PSU?
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jul 2012

Because, other than financial sanctions that trickle down to the school from the football program, I can't see how this will effect the average PSU student.

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
8. No
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 05:53 PM
Jul 2012

But he has season tickets & enjoys the whole football thing there. He does not defend Paterno at all & is glad they took the statue down

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
6. Stop the football program but don't punish academics.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 05:15 PM
Jul 2012

I thought universities were supposed to educate people, not employ them tackling and trying to kill other college kids.

But what do I know???

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
7. The kids who want to play ball will be allowed to transfer without any penalty.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 05:17 PM
Jul 2012

That program will be picked clean of all talent.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
9. I can't agree
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 06:10 PM
Jul 2012

I think the football program should be shut down for a few years.

The level of insulation that the football program had from accountability to the university indicates a deeply corrupt system. In addition to the cover up of Sandusky's crimes, there is also evidence that the football department was allowed to forbid the student affairs office from punishing football players who violated university rules. The players obviously benefited from that. Joe Paterno wanted a fiefdom that was unaccountable and he got it. Now the price has to be paid for it.

When a team supports paying a player like USC did with Reggie Bush and the player is gone, the coach has moved to a different job, the football department was punished by no bowl games and losing a number of scholarships. From what you've said, it seems like you would say that the university shouldn't be punished in that case. But that only encourages further coverups, which is what got Penn State into this mess. If instead of keeping it in house, they had gone immediately to the police, they wouldn't have this problem.

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