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Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:03 AM Mar 2015

Deadly LAPD shooting of homeless man is caught on video (Graphic)

Source: http://www.latimes.com

In a dramatic confrontation caught on video, Los Angeles police shot and killed a homeless man in the heart of downtown's bustling skid row Sunday.

A video of the incident posted on Facebook (contains foul language) shows a group of officers getting into a scuffle with a man standing on a sidewalk littered with tents and other debris.

During the struggle, one officer drops his nightstick, which is picked up by a woman on the street. Two officers handcuff the woman. The man continues to scuffle with four of the officers, even after he's wrestled to the ground. What appears to be one of the officers is heard saying "Drop the gun. Drop the gun."

Then, at least one of the officers opens fire on the man, who remained on the ground with at least two officers near him.

Five gunshots are heard on the recording.




Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-police-fatally-shoot-homeless-man-20150301-story.html
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Deadly LAPD shooting of homeless man is caught on video (Graphic) (Original Post) Garion_55 Mar 2015 OP
When are these Executions going to end FreakinDJ Mar 2015 #1
When we start to treat the homeless with dignity warrant46 Mar 2015 #29
The way it looks to me... Renew Deal Mar 2015 #2
I Agree With Your Assessment... Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #21
A cop being heard saying "Drop the gun Drop the gun", greyl Mar 2015 #3
Maybe. It's hard to tell. Even if we assume that it's a cop saying it... Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #5
Totally agree, I didn't see a reason for a gun to be drawn at all. nt greyl Mar 2015 #6
Take a look at the big cop that is first from the left. Renew Deal Mar 2015 #7
I just can't tell. But, two guys hold him down, and one shoots him from inches away. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #12
Handcuffing a dead man...icing in the cake. peace13 Mar 2015 #17
Any investigation that follows will focus on the events during the seconds before shots are fired. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #4
Hope many people will pay attention to this.It's so damned wrong.Bullies.Monsters."Protectors?" n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2015 #8
It was murder geomon666 Mar 2015 #9
OVER 600 fatal shootings by police in LA County alone since 2000 cloudythescribbler Mar 2015 #10
That's 43 a year! Brigid Mar 2015 #28
To be honest IMO "drop the gun" is Copese for "we're being filmed" azurnoir Mar 2015 #11
Why couldn't the four well trained cops simply subdue one man without killing him. In_The_Wind Mar 2015 #13
Because they didn't WANT to subdue him...... socialist_n_TN Mar 2015 #15
That seems to be the trend these days. In_The_Wind Mar 2015 #16
A man can kill you with a fingernail in under .002 seconds! So say the gun nut shitheads of America alcibiades_mystery Mar 2015 #22
This is burning up my news feed on FB........ socialist_n_TN Mar 2015 #14
Our police state at it's finest nolabels Mar 2015 #20
Having BLED OUT, they pick up his limp arms to CUFF HIM psychopomp Mar 2015 #18
The gang in blue is loathsome blackspade Mar 2015 #19
I'm kinda surprised this hasn't blown up DU Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2015 #23
K&R! countryjake Mar 2015 #24
Video Removed From Facebook Showing LAPD Cops Killing Homeless Man azurnoir Mar 2015 #25
If this guy had a gun, he wouldn't have been using windmill-style crazy-fu at the beginning Scootaloo Mar 2015 #26
Should we take this Newest Reality Mar 2015 #27

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
29. When we start to treat the homeless with dignity
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:08 AM
Mar 2015

This guy had a tent on the sidewalk. That is what started the problem. Camping on a public sidewalk

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
2. The way it looks to me...
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:12 AM
Mar 2015

The second cop from the left that is on the man pulls out his gun and shoots him. But this is a very violent confrontation from the beginning. One of the cops drops his nightstick and the woman that picks it up looks like she wants to use it.

I can't tell if the homeless guy tried to grab one of their guns but it looks like he was pulling on the gun on the cop that is 1st from the left. At some point it sounds like someone is saying "he's got my gun."

The 1st cop from the left looks very nervous throughout the incident. He's the guy that dropped his nightstick. He looks like he's trying to pull his own gun out at the beginning and can't get it out. He's then the guy that has his gun grabbed by the homeless guy. Then you see him at the end I think his head is elsewhere.

Corey_Baker08

(2,157 posts)
21. I Agree With Your Assessment...
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 02:31 PM
Mar 2015

A tragic situation no doubt & CSI should be able to determine if that mans fingerprints are on the officer's gun...

greyl

(22,990 posts)
3. A cop being heard saying "Drop the gun Drop the gun",
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:25 AM
Mar 2015

does not mean the victim actually had a gun. First sentence at the LA Times is "A group of officers gets into a scuffle with the man. 'Drop the gun' is heard, then several gunshots."

When I first watched the video, I was thinking "drop the gun" was coming from a spectator talking to the cop who drew his gun, plainly visible.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
5. Maybe. It's hard to tell. Even if we assume that it's a cop saying it...
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:28 AM
Mar 2015

... this incident was not worthy of lethal force until it was escalated by the police.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
7. Take a look at the big cop that is first from the left.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:51 AM
Mar 2015

Watch him from beginning to end. He seems very uncomfortable. The way the video is, his gun is on the left. Does it look like his gun is being pulled on?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
12. I just can't tell. But, two guys hold him down, and one shoots him from inches away.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:52 AM
Mar 2015

Damn. It was an execution.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
4. Any investigation that follows will focus on the events during the seconds before shots are fired.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:27 AM
Mar 2015

They will not examine at all the fact that this incident did not require six cops to control. Cops push too hard for total submission by suspects and, too often, escalate the problem to the point where they can justify killing someone who was a threat to no one before the cops arrived.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
22. A man can kill you with a fingernail in under .002 seconds! So say the gun nut shitheads of America
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 02:39 PM
Mar 2015

Shoot everybody before they kill you with their fingernail!!!!!

Protect your precious family from all the people!!!

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
14. This is burning up my news feed on FB........
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 09:57 AM
Mar 2015

I didn't see no muthafucking gun. The bastards execute another one for no reason. Or at least no "capital crime" reason.

And I agree with the poster above who said that "He's got a gun" is copese for "I'm going to shoot this motherfucker".

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
20. Our police state at it's finest
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 02:14 PM
Mar 2015

My ex worked her way into these folks through a working for a county temp agency. Eventually she got on permanently and figured that I was just extra baggage because i could no longer think like her and moved out. The mentality is that is us against the world, and the 45 in the holster is just part of the makeup of who they become. Everyone to them is potential enemy, no matter who they are.

If you just understand they are thugs with guns mostly employed by the rich and well-to-do that are wishing to keep things how they are, then they won't seem ______________ (you fill in the word).

Anyway, its just how think, nothing really more to it.

psychopomp

(4,668 posts)
18. Having BLED OUT, they pick up his limp arms to CUFF HIM
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 11:26 AM
Mar 2015

Bloodthirsty cops getting their murder on. Again. How long?

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,573 posts)
23. I'm kinda surprised this hasn't blown up DU
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 02:50 PM
Mar 2015

when I watch it, it's like the shooting in Pasco Washington of a few weeks ago. Hard to not make a judgment the police over reacted and took a citizens' life unnecessarily...........

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
27. Should we take this
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:02 PM
Mar 2015

as a clear and obvious message that anyone who interacts with the police may receive the death penalty? Or am I reading too much into it?

No judge, (other than the cop who fires) no jury, (well, maybe the assisting cops) and a very quick trial where you are determined to be a threat and the only means to diffuse that threat is enough lead in your body to kill you, not just disable you.

This kind of violent, seemingly knee-jerk behavior, is inserting itself, (due to the powerful emotional charge of watching a real execution) into our collective views and I think that affects everyone.

If our governments and police forces wanted better public relations, or to assure us that they are really about "serve and protect" there would be measures taken to prevent this thug-like, police state behavior. Instead it happens over and over.

And what I mean is, (though I don't see a gun in this video and doubt if there was one) even if he had a gun in his hand, you could should his hand, arm, etc. and quickly disable his ability to use the gun. From the position of the cops, I don't even see how he could aim or fire a gun.

Like they say, firemen will risk their lives to save people and those in the military will put themselves in harms way. Our police forces will put your life in danger to save themselves, first and foremost. That's NOT serving and protecting when it is so blatant like the scenes that have been recorded lately.


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