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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:04 PM Mar 2015

Wisconsin Republicans Pass Right-To-Work Bill, Walker Plans To Sign

Source: Huffington

Posted: 03/06/2015 11:34 am EST Updated: 59 minutes ago

Following a heated, all-night debate between lawmakers in Madison, the Wisconsin state assembly passed right-to-work legislation on Friday morning, sending the controversial bill to the desk of Gov. Scott Walker (R).

Once Walker signs the anti-union bill, as he has promised to do, Wisconsin will become the 25th right-to-work state in the country, further weakening an already-diminished labor movement in the state.

The Wisconsin AFL-CIO called the legislation "reckless."

“The GOP is more concerned with advancing the rights of out-of-state special interests who write their campaign checks than protecting the rights and protecting the wages of hard-working Wisconsinites,” Phil Neuenfeldt, president of the state's AFL-CIO, said in a statement.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/06/wisconsin-right-to-work_n_6816672.html

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Wisconsin Republicans Pass Right-To-Work Bill, Walker Plans To Sign (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2015 OP
Damn. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #1
Why can't unions talk to their members yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #27
Follow the money. JohnnyRingo Mar 2015 #2
Thank you for making the Republican's argument for them Indydem Mar 2015 #4
It does create a conundrum of sorts, but.... CANDO Mar 2015 #11
IT started turbinetree Mar 2015 #15
Those are just facts. JohnnyRingo Mar 2015 #12
Exactly. This is why they got rid of all our jobs PeteSelman Mar 2015 #22
I repeat, old guy Mar 2015 #3
yeap,,,,, I hope that 67% who sat on their asses and Cryptoad Mar 2015 #6
All the republican union members (yes they exist!) who believed Walker Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #8
Welcome Wisconsin as the newest state of Dumbfuckistan! Cryptoad Mar 2015 #5
are we Ole Wiss, Wiskansas. Wississippi, Texconsin, or Wiscabama? Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #9
Who are the true terrorists against the economy and the American people Iliyah Mar 2015 #7
What's disconcerting is that rat-fucker is a front-runner for goper nomination groundloop Mar 2015 #10
They voted him in three times. They deserve it. No White House though. RBInMaine Mar 2015 #14
Wisconsinites get what they DESERVE. They voted for this asshat 3 times. Tough luck ! RBInMaine Mar 2015 #13
Once was not enough to use that idiotic cliche, was it? Release The Hounds Mar 2015 #23
Right to Work, simply means... SoapBox Mar 2015 #16
Koch blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #17
How soon we forget indypaul Mar 2015 #18
"You Keep Using that Phrase-Right to Work.." Cha Mar 2015 #19
k&r (nt) enough Mar 2015 #20
It's sad. But this is what they voted for. PeteSelman Mar 2015 #21
Also see this post Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #24
In other news Repugs vote to ban indoor plumbing Marthe48 Mar 2015 #25
This should be no surprise. Walker never hid his intentions, so if the people of WI have buyers still_one Mar 2015 #26
Alas, Babylon. nt raccoon Mar 2015 #28
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
1. Damn.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:16 PM
Mar 2015

This was inevitable given the current makeup of our state legislature but still. Wisconsin just became a bit more unlike the state I've lived in for all but two of my 50 years.

Damn.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
27. Why can't unions talk to their members
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 02:12 PM
Mar 2015

And tell them that opting out is a bad idea and give specifics. We can still win this issue by not having one member quit. Not easy but doable. I don't see how this has to hurt unions at all.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
2. Follow the money.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:42 PM
Mar 2015

The number one largest source of funding for the GOP are energy companies. For the DNC it's unions. The United Steel workers and the United Auto Workers used to supply a lion's share of that cash, but outsourcing beginning in the '70s has since shifted that burden to public service unions, the last line of financial defense for the Democratic Party.

Every RTW law has as it's foundation a clause that strips unions of membership dues.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
4. Thank you for making the Republican's argument for them
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:20 PM
Mar 2015

People who just want good union jobs have to pay dues to support Democratic candidates?

That is the argument the GOP has been using to push these laws.

 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
11. It does create a conundrum of sorts, but....
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:36 PM
Mar 2015

It already exists in labor law the ability to opt out of paying any more in union dues that is beyond the cost of representation. All you had to do is notify your employer and your union that you wished to pay the representation portion of your dues only. That way, if you were a Republican or other political sort, your dues were not going to political contributions you disapproved of. This RTW legislation deliberately strips the union of any and all fees for representation. It seeks to kill the union, period.

On the flip side, why are we allowing corporations to contribute to politicians with money they obtained through my productive labor? And without asking my permission. Goose/Gander argument certainly applies in my view.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
15. IT started
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 06:04 PM
Mar 2015

Back in 1970's a worker objected that he had to pay UNION dues, but he wanted the largeness of what a union got for him, such as wage increases, health care coverage, Defined Benefit pensions and the like, so he filed suit and won.
Union representation has always been weak, you have to look no further than the TAFT-HARTLEY ACT.
As to how right to work became a brand you have look no further than at the DISSENT MAGAZINE, it fully explains where and how this form of racists work rules are enforced by republicans and there handlers from by-gone days to today.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
12. Those are just facts.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:42 PM
Mar 2015

Politics and organized labor have been forever entwined by necessity.

I'm a die hard second generation UAW retiree, and I wouldn't want my dues to go to GOP PACs. Unfortunately, there are too many brothers and sisters who think republicans would serve them better. Those are the ones who complain that union dues don't benefit them personally, but political parties isn't the only place those dues go. Much of it is spent to reinforce the international and recruit new members. In organized labor, there is absolute strength in numbers.

Of course there's a good reason unions only donate to one party, much as a farmer doesn't feed the wolves. If unions didn't augment the coffers of good democrats, we'd only be reading about organized labor in history books.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
22. Exactly. This is why they got rid of all our jobs
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:48 PM
Mar 2015

Not only did they greedily increase their profits, they took away the political power of the working class.

They are truly scum.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
8. All the republican union members (yes they exist!) who believed Walker
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 04:10 PM
Mar 2015

when he said he would do "everything in his power" to see that right to work never got to his desk in 2012 can go sit with the people who believed him when he said that abortion was a decision that ultimately should be made between a woman and her doctor, the people who believed him when he said he would be a strong supporter for the UW System, and the people who believed him when he said he had no intention of stripping public employee unions of bargaining power.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
9. are we Ole Wiss, Wiskansas. Wississippi, Texconsin, or Wiscabama?
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 04:12 PM
Mar 2015

Maybe Nebraskonsin, or Wiscoming, or South Wisconsolina. You decide, I can't.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. Who are the true terrorists against the economy and the American people
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:54 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Fri Mar 6, 2015, 04:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Asshole Walker still won't be the GOP nom, and with this, WI will be going blue in 2016.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
10. What's disconcerting is that rat-fucker is a front-runner for goper nomination
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:09 PM
Mar 2015

Walker is very very good at doing whatever the Kochmasters tell him to do. He's sure to earn their favor (and campaign dollars) - it's going to be a hell of a fight to keep him out of the White House.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
16. Right to Work, simply means...
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 06:09 PM
Mar 2015

Employers hold all the cards to hire and FIRE at will.

That is how it was explained to me when I took a job in Arizona in 1984.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
21. It's sad. But this is what they voted for.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:45 PM
Mar 2015

Wisconsin had three opportunities to reject Walker and his anti-labor bullshit and they failed to do so. The son of a bitch even had UNION support.

So while this is horrible and tragic there's no one to blame except the people who live there.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
26. This should be no surprise. Walker never hid his intentions, so if the people of WI have buyers
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 01:38 PM
Mar 2015

remorse because they do not like this, who do they have to blame?

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