Salesforce won't travel to Indiana over religious freedom law
Source: Indianapolis Star
Soon after Gov. Mike Pence signed the religious freedom bill into law Thursday, Salesforce.com founder and CEO Marc Benioff announced on Twitter that he would no longer send employees or customers to Indiana.
"Today we are canceling all programs that require our customers/employees to travel to Indiana to face discrimination," he tweeted.
Salesforce, a cloud computing company headquartered in San Francisco, acquired Indianapolis-based marketing software company ExactTarget last year for $2.5 billion.
... In a tweet sent out to his 150,000 followers Wednesday night, Benioff said his cloud computing company would be "forced to dramatically reduce (its) investment in IN based on (its) employee's & customer's outrage over the Religious Freedom Bill."
Read more: http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/03/25/business-leaders-address-letter-to-pence-urging-him-to-veto-religious-freedom-bill/70466808/
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)samsingh
(17,598 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)hit where they can understand what you are saying
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Then the Ravens could move back to Cleveland, and the present-day Browns could fill the void in L.A. Problem solved!
edit: Of course, we are talking about a team that once employed uber-homophobe Tony Dungy.
47of74
(18,470 posts)Put them in Council Bluffs....
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...but if anybody's going to LA, it should be the Ravens.
- Because, seniority:
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,429 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,429 posts)brett_jv
(1,245 posts)Don't EVEN SPEAK of sending MY Raiders to friggin' Indiana ...
Brother Buzz
(36,429 posts)And the Colts' Lucas Oil Stadium was again named the best stadium experience in the NFL this year.
old guy
(3,283 posts)He was warned but chose the path he took. Time will tell.
rurallib
(62,415 posts)isn't that what brought Arizona around on MLK day?
riversedge
(70,218 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)but Colorado has a large tourist industry. Does Indiana? Whatever, I hope they are boycotted and shunned a whole bunch.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)You can go to the Dan Quayle Museum and see such things as:
1. His spelling homework (tomato - tomatoe)
2. Brilliant quotes:
* "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."
*"What a terrible thing to have lost one's mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is."
*"We will invest in our people, quality education, job opportunity, family, neighborhood, and yes, a thing we call America."
Really, how could you EVAR pass that up (I looked up "evar" in the Dan Quayle Dictionary and that was OK!)
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)Michael Jackson
Mohammed Ali
David Letterman
Jane Pauley (Garry Trudeau's wife).
just to name a few of those that left the state and are known worldwide now. Like me, I left the state and only go back for visits to my elderly Mother. You have to understand that most of the population of Indiana came from the southern states like Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, etc. Those people got up there in the 40s and 50s when there were manufacturing jobs that the south didn't have. Some of those people never left the state after that, like ever. There are a lot of us that left the state in the 80s-00s because those jobs went to the no-union south, then Mexico, then China and India.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Free market remedies. Gotta love 'em. K&R
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)their attack legislation! There are far too many other places to carry on a business. What's next on their agenda? Blacks, Mexicans, Latinos? I feel sorry for people in such a horrific place.
Cha
(297,220 posts)I saw he was watching fox "news" when I took my car in.
mnhtnbb
(31,388 posts)One of my gay sons works for a world wide company headquartered in Indiana...but his office is here in the Triangle
area of NC.
Cha
(297,220 posts)the discrimination bill the bigoted AZ legislature came up with.
frylock
(34,825 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)jeez people are foolish .
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)PassingFair
(22,434 posts)From a user standpoint.
But this is a nice gesture!
matt819
(10,749 posts)They paid $2.5 billion for a company in IN and are not sending customers or employees there and are considering reducing their presence there. That's more than a gesture. Regardless of what you think of their product.
Here's a question. Let's say you do business with people in Indiana. Do you adopt a don't ask don't tell approach or do you come right out and ask if they discriminate based on religion?
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)I think it should be part of the new "law".
Also, I REALLY hate using Salesforce!
matt819
(10,749 posts)I read some of the comments on the paper's website, and some of them were in favor of the bill and contemptuous of people like us. They truly believe that somehow they are going to come out on top in this "debate." Pathetic.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)erronis
(15,254 posts)I have no love of SaleForce either since it essentially tried to close down several good open-source alternatives to CRM.
I also have no stomach for McDonalds (or PizzaHut/Cocolala) but my personal dislike of their products does not diminish my plaudits for any corporation that uses this tactic to fight against the racist/misogynist plutocrats that are trying to take over this poor country. I might even take a bite of something of theirs if they'll follow suit.
After all, all those people (kochs and wannabes) understand is when their bottom line is severely impacted.
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)P.S.
I would rather eat at McDonalds than use SalesForce.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)SalesForce federation with voice products is a huge deal...On my list as we build new products
avebury
(10,952 posts)to a similar law that would have required business to post notice of their bigotry. The statute (at this point) did not make it into law. She is said that she will keep her eyes open if the Republicans try to make a run at passing another bigotry law/
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)lark
(23,099 posts)The list of states I won't visit or drive through is increasing so much, I now have to fly just about anywhere I want to go. Quit driving to the jazz fest in NO 15 years ago after being harassed, shaken down, by the cops in rural LA. We have flown there every year since then, it's a wonderful event. Quit driving in TX and MS after threatening behavior in restaurants 25 years ago. Won't go to the other places due to their dumbfuckery and bad laws now.
calimary
(81,265 posts)All those fucking Nixon felons who went to jail, some of 'em "found Jesus," and all of 'em wrote books, memoirs and stuff. There arose a movement urging - "don't buy books by crooks."
Same thing here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/01/1288957/-Sign-the-pledge-Don-t-buy-these-Koch-products?detail=email
Sometimes you have to vote with your pocketbook. You're really voting with your conscience.
erronis
(15,254 posts)Of course both of these nice little organizations collect a lot more than your body images when you fly into/out of their control.
It amazes me that major conventions still book venues in these dumb-ass states. How about we all agree to not drive/fly into any state that has a red governor or a 'uglican-controlled legislature? Wouldn't bother me a-tall.
lark
(23,099 posts)Right now, though, it seems safer than the alternative of driving through some of these crazy ass states. I often refuse to go through the scanner things, it's such an invasion of privacy. The pat downs aren't as intrustive as the scanners, IMO. Only if time if short will I go through the scanners.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)lark
(23,099 posts)Drove through once quickly and that was enough for me.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)This last anti-gay bill was made possible by a Democratic state senator. It would not have passed if not for him. The governor said he would sign it before the Democrat okayed it out of committee.
I think that summarized our national problem. The republicans in Washington can almost be handled, it's the damn democrats that stab us in the backs that hurt the most.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)did a run through the Ozarks and camped near Mt. Nebo. Some of the nicest folks in the world, hosting a couple of aging hippies on a motorcycle on a run from Fairbanks, Alaska to Merritt Island, Florida.
Also one of the better camping areas we stayed in.
But we weren't there for anything political, so all I can say is, no one treated us badly at all, and they could have!
Cha
(297,220 posts)compelling graphic, LA
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)erronis
(15,254 posts)Whether they back down for the time being. Sort of like when the confederacy lost its battle to enslave other people, pretended to rejoin the union of humans, and then reverted to its old boy attitudes.
Has anyone looked at the genetic possibilities that these white mainly southern people just can't control themselves? Perhaps they are just incapable of rational though and action - perhaps they should be treated as sub-humans (fair play?).
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)other guy. "I beat up two figs last night", "Hey that's nothing I did 3 the other night".
And it is not just whites. Many, many blacks oppose equality for LGBT Americans.
And look at Africa and the Middle East - some of the worst anti-LGBT violence happens there.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)that you and I do. And remember that in this case we are talking about Indiana which was not a part of the Confederacy. I guess I am uncomfortable about singling out white southern people when racism is rampant everywhere, not just in the South.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)Though the train can be nice if there is one.
Demit
(11,238 posts)I've been reading up on Ted Cruz, and his crazy pastor father's belief in the "Seven Mountains mandate" and the "being the head and not the tail" and all that. It is scary.
Seven Mountains Dominionism has a plan to defeat the forces of Satan, attain the goal of a Christian theocracy in America and eventually the entire world, in order to prepare the world for the return of Christ. There are seven sections of the culture targeted for infiltration: 1) government, 2) education, 3) media, 4) arts & entertainment, 5) religion, 6) family, and 7) business.
Business is the most important area to control. "So much of culture is defined by what happens in business," they say. Watch the vid at http://www.7culturalmountains.org
This isn't far off in the future. As we see, this is happening now.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)lobodons
(1,290 posts)Also fine line to discriminate against skin color, other religions.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)and overturn this unconstitutional law. I suspect that opponents of the law will be in court right away asking for a temporary injunction.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Oh the irony.
TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)could scoop up for pennies on the dollar.
It's what they'd call a "win-win."
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Rock ON, Salesforce!
Cha
(297,220 posts)Salesforce CEO Benioff Takes Stand Against Indiana Anti-Gay Law
By Arik Hesseldahl @ahess247
Benioff cancels company events in the state and promises more "economic sanctions" if the law isn't reversed.
Re/code @Recode
104 Retweets 135 favorites 10:01 AM - 26 Mar 2015
"Weve made significant investments in Indiana. We run major marketing events and conferences there. Were a major source of income and revenue to the state of Indiana, but we simply cannot support this kind of legislation, Benioff said in a phone interview."
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/03/26/the-president-delivers-remarks-on-the-economy-2/
Yay.. thank you, Marc Benioff of Salesforce!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Hit these anti-freedom fanatic republicans where it hurts them the most!
In the damn wallet!
Chipper Chat
(9,678 posts)to come to terms with this law vis a vis their company non-discrimination policies. If General Motors, Chrysler, Eli Lilly, Subaru, Cummins Diesel move to another state it would break Indiana. Thanks republicans!
Hugin
(33,140 posts)Response to Newsjock (Original post)
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Vinca
(50,271 posts)"Grandma's Bakery, No Christians Allowed." When asked, Grandma could say her religion opposes Christians.
HoosierCowboy
(561 posts)..and Indiana will make Kansas look progressive.
Rozlee
(2,529 posts)Although, a recent study showed that most big cities in Texas trend liberal. It's all the teahadist-heavy rural areas down here that keep churning out the crazies. Plus, the fact that we've got the lowest voter turnout in the nation. If we Hispanics got off our duffs and voted, there wouldn't be another Republican voted to the lege for generation. Vayan a votar, arrastrados!
packman
(16,296 posts)"Religious Freedom Act', "Clean Air Act", "Right to Work", "Clean Water", etc. You can damn well bet that if they name it, they will be attacking whatever is in the title.
Bravo to Salesforce and Mr. Benioff.