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mopinko

(70,387 posts)
Fri May 15, 2015, 12:10 AM May 2015

Right-to-work goes down in flames in Illinois House with zero yes votes

Source: chicago sun times

Gov. Bruce Rauner’s desires to have right-to-work in Illinois went down in flames in the House on Thursday, gaining zero yes votes in a fiery debate Democrats aimed squarely at the governor.

The vote tally was 0 yes votes, 72 no votes and 37 voting present, offering a blistering rebuke to Rauner’s anti-union agenda. A handful of Republicans went for a walk during the vote, not publicly falling on one side or another.

Republicans dismissed the vote as political theater even as Democrats pit workers’ rights against corporate greed and called Rauner “divisive” for touring the state and essentially asking local towns to kick unions out.



Read more: http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/7/71/607377/right-work-goes-down-flames-illinois-house-zero-yes-votes



nice try asshole.
this guy is gonna get nowhere as long as mike madigan breathes.
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Right-to-work goes down in flames in Illinois House with zero yes votes (Original Post) mopinko May 2015 OP
"Right to work" is soooo misleading! Suich May 2015 #1
I call it right to work for less madinmaryland May 2015 #20
Much like ''Clean Coal'' YOHABLO May 2015 #28
Whenever politicians call a bill "Right to...." AllyCat May 2015 #42
Republicans are masters of euphemism. Beauregard May 2015 #57
Right to Work = YOU have NO Rights. SoapBox May 2015 #2
They must have gotten the memo lobodons May 2015 #3
Ha ha! shenmue May 2015 #4
Ruiner is my name and ruining the middle class is my game Thekaspervote May 2015 #5
My brother calls him that, too. murielm99 May 2015 #7
I believe Norman Goldman coined that one nt stopwastingmymoney May 2015 #43
Whoa! SheilaT May 2015 #6
1999, teachers' strike in Jersey City. Hoppy May 2015 #13
I think it was probably Arkansas.. LiberalArkie May 2015 #24
Three cheers for Madigan!!! murielm99 May 2015 #8
See, Wisconsin, Indiana and Michigan? world wide wally May 2015 #9
Sure, rub it in why don't you. Thanks Kevin from WI May 2015 #10
Wisconsin used to be cool. You guys got some work cut out for you world wide wally May 2015 #11
i had a chance to get some cheap cigarettes from indiana. mopinko May 2015 #27
Michigan has been over-run by right wing lunatics etherealtruth May 2015 #34
I don't think Michigan is an actual functioning democracy anymore world wide wally May 2015 #36
nor do I etherealtruth May 2015 #37
Wow! cui bono May 2015 #12
Another Koch Bro's sponsored bill goes down in flames INdemo May 2015 #14
Republicans are cowards. City Lights May 2015 #15
my only worry mopinko May 2015 #16
Yeah, scab legislation dies turbinetree May 2015 #17
Rauner is a paper tiger landolfi May 2015 #18
quinn's place on the ticket w blaggo was a joke. mopinko May 2015 #25
Amen landolfi May 2015 #38
i think he is a bumbler. mopinko May 2015 #40
I read an article about Illinois politics that was rather enlightening rpannier May 2015 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author landolfi May 2015 #39
Made my day JohnnyRingo May 2015 #19
oops, never mind - confusing right-to-work with at-will. closeupready May 2015 #21
In your face, Rauner! KamaAina May 2015 #22
Yay Mike! marym625 May 2015 #23
Excellent!!!!!!! Initech May 2015 #26
Quite telling how not a single Republican voted for this legislation. alp227 May 2015 #29
they also know the speaker. mopinko May 2015 #30
gooooood!!!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #31
As it should KansDem May 2015 #32
Isn't that like ... DWinNJ May 2015 #33
Finally some good news for a change. nt Sgt Preston May 2015 #35
If political people did their jobs polynomial May 2015 #41
Now there is a celebration! Are people waking up? lonestarnot May 2015 #44
this is the land of the deep blue. mopinko May 2015 #45
I am envious of your color. lonestarnot May 2015 #50
it is a great feeling. mopinko May 2015 #51
I've nearly worked myself into the ground and will never give up, but these fuckers over here are lonestarnot May 2015 #53
def crazier out there in the red. mopinko May 2015 #54
Can you lend your cheesehead friends to the north a little common sense now? Still In Wisconsin May 2015 #47
i did my best. mopinko May 2015 #48
I really appreciate that. Still In Wisconsin May 2015 #55
the talk radio is insane up there. mopinko May 2015 #58
It is truly awful. Still In Wisconsin May 2015 #59
Explain to me again how this governor was elected? Why don't Democrats ever get elected governor in The Stranger May 2015 #49
election fraud. mopinko May 2015 #52
This is a very nice surprise. nt Beauregard May 2015 #56
excellent lovemydog May 2015 #60

AllyCat

(16,267 posts)
42. Whenever politicians call a bill "Right to...."
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:59 PM
May 2015

no matter what comes next in the wording, THAT is the right they are planning to infringe.

 

Beauregard

(376 posts)
57. Republicans are masters of euphemism.
Mon May 18, 2015, 10:32 PM
May 2015

Consider their use of the word "reform," as in "welfare reform," or "entitlement reform." There is also "fixing," as in "fixing social security."

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
3. They must have gotten the memo
Fri May 15, 2015, 12:21 AM
May 2015

They must have gotten the memo that wages for ALL are higher for ALL in states where there is NO "Right to Work".

Thekaspervote

(32,823 posts)
5. Ruiner is my name and ruining the middle class is my game
Fri May 15, 2015, 12:40 AM
May 2015

Hey ruiner...why don't you just go away! You go Illinois! Kick em to the curb

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
6. Whoa!
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:24 AM
May 2015

Many years ago I started my working life in Arizona. At the time it was one of only two Right to Work states. I do not recall the other one. But what we all knew was that as a consequence, our wages in Arizona were lower than in other states. I then worked for Ma Bell, the telephone company. We were unionizes, CWA, Communication Workers of America. In 1967 there was a strike. It was the line workers, as I recall, who were actually striking, and I have never forgotten who crossed the picket lines and who didn't.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
13. 1999, teachers' strike in Jersey City.
Fri May 15, 2015, 06:40 AM
May 2015

Some crossed the line. To this day, no other teacher says as much as "hello" to them.

LiberalArkie

(15,739 posts)
24. I think it was probably Arkansas..
Fri May 15, 2015, 09:15 PM
May 2015

Edit to add, I worked for Western Electric and walked 2 times for Bell System. The SWBT never honored our picket lines. But when the contract was signed, we got .5% increase the operators got (I think) 10% and the rest of the SWBT got around 5%. The operators and others at the office would just walk right through the picket line every time.

mopinko

(70,387 posts)
27. i had a chance to get some cheap cigarettes from indiana.
Fri May 15, 2015, 11:22 PM
May 2015

decided that i hated indiana gov, and approved of cook county gov. if i am going to engage in a stupid habit, i will put my money where my mouth is.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
34. Michigan has been over-run by right wing lunatics
Sat May 16, 2015, 10:59 AM
May 2015

Somehow ( ) the state has voted for the Democratic Presidential candidate since 1992, has two Democratic senators .... yet the state legislature is over-run by knuckle dragging right wing lunatics


The report credits gerrymandered maps in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin with allowing Republicans to overcome a 1.1 million popular-vote deficit. In Ohio, for instance, Republicans won 12 out of 16 House races “despite voters casting only 52 percent of their vote for Republican congressional candidates.” The situation was even more egregious to the north. “Michiganders cast over 240,000 more votes for Democratic congressional candidates than Republicans, but still elected a 9-5 Republican delegation to Congress.”
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/17/1459991/rslc-gerrymandering-house/

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
12. Wow!
Fri May 15, 2015, 03:21 AM
May 2015

I'm actually shocked at the Cons' behavior. Taking a walk instead of voting against the people? Maybe they're starting to get a clue.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
14. Another Koch Bro's sponsored bill goes down in flames
Fri May 15, 2015, 08:27 AM
May 2015

For states that have a Republican Governor, the Koch Brothers own them.

I bet it was very difficult for the Right Wing rag,(the Sun Times) to report this

mopinko

(70,387 posts)
16. my only worry
Fri May 15, 2015, 09:07 AM
May 2015

i know at some point madigan will want something. or be pinned in the corner.
ruiner has been shooting his mouth off since election day. there will be something HE really wants.
and then....

landolfi

(234 posts)
18. Rauner is a paper tiger
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:26 PM
May 2015

The ONLY reason we got stuck with this sociopath is that Quinn is probably the worst Democratic politician and campaigner since Jimmy Carter or maybe John Kerry. Actually, I think George McGovern is probably the only one worse than Quinn in history. To all my Illinois Democratic friends who started gnashing their teeth last November, the House results told a very different story, namely that Rauner had no chance of doing anything he can't do unilaterally. And that isn't much, as Quinn's time in office showed. So Rauner is a lot of lip and not much else. And he has to live with that wife of his, yikes. She's about as sincere as a bad toupee.

mopinko

(70,387 posts)
25. quinn's place on the ticket w blaggo was a joke.
Fri May 15, 2015, 10:13 PM
May 2015

a joke on the people of illinois.
but i have heard nothing about the republican dirty trick that kept a lot of chgo voters, quinn's base, from voting on election day.

but really, blaggo took his populist creds, never thinking he would end up at the top of the ticket. i had zero desire to knock on doors and be quinn's face. i am not alone.

landolfi

(234 posts)
38. Amen
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:53 PM
May 2015

Quinn comes off like a well-intentioned bumbler. I don't think he is, but on the other hand I'm more confident that he was in.over his head than i am he was a good leader, and he couldnt seem to take advantage of a majority in the statehouse. His campaign, like Schneider's, focused more on why not to elect the opponent and nothing about accomplishments. Even with that, Ruiner had the charm of a lead ingot, though he at least looked angry as do sociopaths, angry at how much inferior and incompetent everyone else is. I thought people would see through it, but apparently he benefited from the contrast. Quinn always seemed to have this dumb smile on his face like he didn't understand the gravity of what he was facing. Another Democratic defeat snatched from the jaws of victory!

mopinko

(70,387 posts)
40. i think he is a bumbler.
Sat May 16, 2015, 01:19 PM
May 2015

and campaigns of "dont elect the other guy" so very rarely succeed.

i think he is a truly good and committed man. but he missed a lot of the lessons of kindergarten about how to play w others.
the illinois aca site really disappointed me. it was bungled from day one, in part by quinn's refusal to take the good advice that he paid for. it should have been the best of all the state sites w the human tech capital that we have in illinois. but no...

rpannier

(24,350 posts)
46. I read an article about Illinois politics that was rather enlightening
Mon May 18, 2015, 02:47 AM
May 2015

It referred to Illinois politics as being the worst in the country
There were like 8 state senators who are third generation from the district they represent
I think one had a great uncle, a grandfather and then them

In some ways being governor is like being president
It's rare that an incumbent state rep loses

Response to mopinko (Reply #25)

JohnnyRingo

(18,696 posts)
19. Made my day
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:37 PM
May 2015

I'm going to play it safe and make this the last news post I read today.

Thanx for posting

alp227

(32,078 posts)
29. Quite telling how not a single Republican voted for this legislation.
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:16 AM
May 2015

They must know the experience of their neighbors in the Badger state.

mopinko

(70,387 posts)
30. they also know the speaker.
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:50 AM
May 2015

in springfield, whichever party you are in, you piss off mike madigan at your risk.

polynomial

(750 posts)
41. If political people did their jobs
Sat May 16, 2015, 01:35 PM
May 2015

If those elected officials did their jobs America would not need Unions.

The first amendment describes the basic elements of a Union.

The right to freedom of speech, the right to assemble peacefully, the right to address and submit grievances to the government, the right to free press as in this blog, and of course the right to religious belief.

Right now my own personal experience is waiting for a determination in a grievance complaint to the Labor Department and OSHA reference to a deliberate action by the Union Pacific Railroad Company to avoid reporting my medical injury accurately, plus the local Safety Service Management Team deliberately avoided taking responsibility to aid in my recovery.

Yes, my documentation proves Chicago Service Safety Management personal deliberately lied about actions in my injury causing a poor recovery.

With that said, signal this as a clear warning to those unfortunate in the latest derail in Pennsylvania, beware the railroad will sacrifice managers to lie rather than pay out in the injury responsibility. Anyone, including the engineer in that horrible derail having safety issues is welcome to my help and documentation.

My injury complaint shows how the Union Pacific Chicago Service safety management team deliberately clouded my injury to avoid reporting an accurate data base that will likely be used by national insurance companies like the United Health Care Company largely connected to the Medicare system, this data base will make an unreliable, or fraudulent Health Care system.

mopinko

(70,387 posts)
45. this is the land of the deep blue.
Sun May 17, 2015, 08:18 PM
May 2015

maybe we elected this buffoon, but he has a very liberal legislature to get past.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
53. I've nearly worked myself into the ground and will never give up, but these fuckers over here are
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:14 PM
May 2015

nuts.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
47. Can you lend your cheesehead friends to the north a little common sense now?
Mon May 18, 2015, 08:06 AM
May 2015

Pleeeease? The Packers may have beaten the Bears last fall but you're kicking our ass in everything else. Well done FIBs (FIB = Friendly Illinois Buddy for me )

mopinko

(70,387 posts)
58. the talk radio is insane up there.
Mon May 18, 2015, 10:34 PM
May 2015

i know wis has a fine public radio system, but damn. the drek on the air there bout killed me.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
59. It is truly awful.
Tue May 19, 2015, 12:36 AM
May 2015

As for our fine public radio system, Walker has cut 100% of state funding in his latest budget. Republicans in the State legislature have reportedly restored 50% of what Walker cut. When Republicans restoring part of a cut from the governor are your best hope, things have gotten bad.

The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
49. Explain to me again how this governor was elected? Why don't Democrats ever get elected governor in
Mon May 18, 2015, 09:51 AM
May 2015

solid blood-red states? Wouldn't that be the analogue to this?

mopinko

(70,387 posts)
52. election fraud.
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:13 PM
May 2015

no small part of rauner's victory was a republican dirty trick that fouled up the voting in chicago.
dimwit election judges believed phone calls saying they were not needed. dont think the number that gave up would have saved quinn's hide, but it didnt help.

quinn was a crappy candidate. he is just a doofus. he scraped by the first time because people were tired of the chaos. but he didnt do enough to distinguish himself. the smell of rod blagojevich finally caught up to him.

i could see it happening in a red state. i think that is sorta how claire macaskill got elected.

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