US report claiming Saudi Arabia financed 9/11 attack 'redacted by Bush'
Source: Telegraph UK
An American senator has claimed that a secret official report blaming Saudi Arabia for financing the 9/11 attacks was redacted by George W Bush.
Bob Graham, former chairman of the US Senate Intelligence Committee, said that the report shows Saudi Arabia was the "principle financier" of the attacks. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, but previous investigations failed to find a link between the country and the terrorist attack, which killed 2,996 people.
Mr Graham told The Times that a 28-page chapter of the 2002 Senate report, entitled Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 2001, had been withheld to protect the country. Now retired, he is campaigning for its release.
The Times reported that the pages are thought to deal with Nawaf al-Hamzi and Khalid al-Mihdar, two Saudis who helped hijack the plane that was flown in to the Pentagon. They were said to have been in touch with a man who was in contact with the Saudi Arabian embassy in Washington. The embassy has, however, denied that he was a spy.
Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/september-11-attacks/11653706/US-report-claiming-Saudi-Arabia-financed-911-attack-redacted-by-Bush.html
tanyev
(42,571 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)And now we learn friends and business partners of the Bush Family backed the 9/11 attacks? Really?
But W kept us safe!
See? Here he is leaping into action when told the US was under attack--
Can we arrest them all now?
zentrum
(9,865 posts)foreign affairs advisor is Saudi Arabia!
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)The only ones he, or they, truly care about.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Plus family friends: rice*, rumsfeld*, perle*, wolfowitz*, feith*, luti*, hadley*, abrams*, libby*, hannah*, wurmser*, bartlett*, natsios*, daniels*, tenet* and last, but by no means least, colin powell*.
http://thinkprogress.org/report/the-architects-where-are-they-now/
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* War Criminal.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Don't be deterred by arrogant coincudence theorists trying to forcefeed you their distorted viewpoints. They are either too afraid or intellectually lazy to have to reorganize their entire belief systems predicated on status quo lies.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)but close.
Raster
(20,998 posts)I tend to see the evil one as his own separate classification, more spawn of satan than human.
nikto
(3,284 posts)If 2+2=4 and water is wet.
Otherwise, forget it.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)It's truly a surreal scene. Andy Card had just whispered something into Bush's ear for maybe 2 seconds (5:03-5:05), then backed off and didn't wait for a reply. Then the kids started reading in unison from a book called The Pet Goat (not My Pet Goat) while Bush had that look on his face.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Kind of odd.
Bush wasn't too bad with those kids. He's no Obama, but he was friendly.
They may as well not have bothered to tell him anything until that was over. If they didn't need him to get up right away to do something, which would have been the case.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)(he later said he saw it occur "live" on a TV in the school hallway that was "obviously on", and remarked that "that was one lousy pilot" . However, the first attack was not aired "live" on TV, certainly not the part where the plane or whatever hit the building since there was only one known video of that, taken by accident by a French film crew and not released until quite a while later.
So Bush walks into the room, even though he's just seen a plane crash into a building "live" on TV, but he doesn't seem too curious about it; rather, he gets engrossed in a 2nd grade reading lesson. Just a few minutes into the lesson, Chief of Staff Andy Card comes up to him, whispers something into his ear for a couple of seconds at the most, then steps back and doesn't wait for a reply. What did Card say? According to Bush, it was "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."
So, accepting for the sake of argument that that is what Card actually said (never mind trying to say all that in less than 2 seconds), neither Bush nor Card show any sense of urgency. "America's under attack", and the man who is pretending to be President of the United States just sits there, because, you now, the 2nd grade reading lesson is just so much more interesting.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Card could not have said all that in the time shown. Maybe he remembers is that way. He may as well have waited for the end of the lesson for all the good it did.
At the time of the first attack, the media and everyone were thinking it was an accident. The comment about the lousy pilot takes the event too lightly though, even as an accident. All he could have seen was the coverage obviously, not the event.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Because right when the attacks happen he is caught reading to children in an elementary school. I understand completely Presidents don't have time or more pressed for other things but generally aren't going to show up at random schools to read to children but it is like a publicity stunt or an incredibly random coincidence.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)There was no communication between Bush and Card. But yet, we're told that Bush wanted to "wait for more information"; that he "didn't want to scare the children." How do we know this? There was no communication between the president and his chief-of-staff.
Similar concerns were voiced 11 years ago:
DU thread from 2004
sofa king
(10,857 posts)And that other time.
And then the time they didn't guard all those 105 mm artillery shells in Iraq... which led to those 250,000 other times....
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)I'd love to see him in jail.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)orange jumpsuits and chains would be worth a month of Viagra.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)so forget about this issue, it's not important enough to get into
Raster
(20,998 posts)That's right, the second time.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)Botany
(70,518 posts)..... helped out too but after 9/11 w & Cheney invaded Iraq. I wonder why?
blm
(113,065 posts)by the blood and treasure of the rest of us.
There IS a NWO - The Fascist agenda of the Bushes and their cronies in service to royal and corporate empires.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)9/11 was the Bush Reichstag Fire.
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)In retrospect, it seems obvious.
Raster
(20,998 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)they KNOW if they debate and vote in favor of continuing our role in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and wherever else, the public will demand that they send THEIR kids to war. That is something they won't do.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)hijack operation about which I wrote at DU and here: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/leveymg/545 and (slightly longer version with interesting comments chain) here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/02/940661/-Wikileaks-reveals-9-11-Team-B-hijack-team-got-away
blm
(113,065 posts)It's foolish to think anything is just 'coincidence' when Bushes are involved.
yardwork
(61,650 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)snip: Rand Paul, the Libertarian Republican senator from Kentucky, is demanding that Mr Obama declassify 28 pages that were redacted from a 2002 US Senate report into the 9/11 attacks.
Interesting that Paul is out ahead of our Dem leaders in demanding declassification.
Verry interesting stuff at the end of the article: snip
In a plea to a New York court released last February, Moussaoui said that senior members of the Saudi royal family were major al-Qaeda donors and were intimately involved with Osama bin Laden's terror network in the 1990s.
He named Prince Turki al-Faisal, then the Saudi intelligence chief; Prince Bandar Bin Sultan, the longtime Saudi ambassador to the United States and Prince al-Waleed bin Talal, a prominent billionaire investor.
However the Saudi Embassy dismissed Moussaoui who was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic - as "a deranged criminal" trying to "get attention for himself and try to do what he could not do through acts of terrorism to undermine Saudi-US relations". end
Moussaoui could be telling the truth in a plea deal.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Cheney was responsible for the destruction of the infra-structure of Iraq and then his company won no-bid contracts to rebuild it worth BILLIONS!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Because Iraq was a rival to Saudi Arabia.
Now their main rival is Iran.
That's who they want us to attack next.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)And just dump a whole lot of iraqi liquid gold on the market. This would have tanked the world price per barrel, and a lot of American oil barons would have lost their shirtsleaves...
can't have that, nosiree..
it was never about STEALING the oil. It was about making sure it stayed in the ground so prices stayed high.
it wasn't about making sure the American people had access to an affordable needed resource. It was about fucking us over at the pump so Dick and his friends could feel better about themselves. And then we let them legalize torture and mass survailence and all the rest of it
TO SUPPORT THEIR INSECURITIES THAT THEY WERNT WORTH ANYTHING MORE THAN THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS.
At least now, we know their self-judgement was spot on.
theyre completely Worthless.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,202 posts)Protecting the dollar as the universal reserve currency is incredibly important to the powers that be. If the dollar wasn't the reserve currency, its value would drop dramatically, causing inflation in the US and creating havoc in those "too big to fail" financial institutions. Imports would cost more BUT exports would cost less. So the drop in the dollar's value could actually improve the US trade imbalance and be a boon for US manufacturing.
So, heaven forbid a GOP candidate is elected in 2016, you can pretty much count on a war with Iran, because it is selling its oil for GOLD. They may say its because of its nuclear program, but its really because it threatens the dollar's artificial value.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
..if the picture was of Obama holding a Sheik's hand?
The mind cannot conceive the RW reaction.
nikto
(3,284 posts)Then circulate it in RW media,
for a great laugh.
zentrum
(9,865 posts).
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)The chief military personnel should have been fired for their incompetence on 9/11. Rumsfeld should have been imprisoned however it is not over yet.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)who housed the Flt. 77 hijackers upon their arrival in 2000 and later reconnected with them in Northern, VA; a Saudi Air Ministry official working under non-official cover with Dallah Avco in Los Angeles; and Anoud and Abdulazziz al-Hijji in Sarasota, Florida who met in his home with Mohamed Atta and at least one other 9/11 hijacker during the summer of 2001.
Al-Awlaki, who had contacts with the US military was arrested after 9/11 but set loose. He went on to be the spider at the center of a web that included several subsequent terrorist attacks inside the U.S., including the Shoe Bomber, the Times Square Bomber, the Ft. Hood shooter, the Underwear Bomber, and the Boston Bombers. The Sarasota couple suddenly fled to London and on to Saudi Arabia a week before 9/11, leaving behind a fully furnished house and several cars.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)I always wondered how the 9/11 attacks were a "complete surprise" considering the amount of spying conducted by the US. Especially now that we know just how much data collection, i.e. emails and phone calls, the spy agencies collect.
They lied--
--and should rot in prison.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)rather than the consequence of a decades old covert policy of joint US-Saudi/GCC covert operations against Russia that was too big -- and too dangerous -- to fail.
Al Qaeda, like ISIS that morphed from it, is Saudi paramilitary.
Dig a few layers deeper into the onion, and one comes across the fact that Saudi Arabia is very much a tribe engaged in aggressive war with its neighbors and at war with itself through multiple succession struggles. The US has bought into those wars, and many times has compromised its own interests to back the wrong faction. From 9/11 to ISIS, time and again we find ourselves being attacked by our "allies" who quite literally are colonizing us through their purchase of arms, corporations and the mass sell-out of venal politicians, such as the Bush family.
What we were told about 9/11 is a public lie that protects self-deception masking corruption on a huge international scale.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)In a plea to a New York court released last February, Moussaoui said that senior members of the Saudi royal family were major al-Qaeda donors and were intimately involved with Osama bin Laden's terror network in the 1990s.
He named Prince Turki al-Faisal, then the Saudi intelligence chief; Prince Bandar Bin Sultan, the longtime Saudi ambassador to the United States and Prince al-Waleed bin Talal, a prominent billionaire investor.
However the Saudi Embassy dismissed Moussaoui who was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic - as "a deranged criminal" trying to "get attention for himself and try to do what he could not do through acts of terrorism to undermine Saudi-US relations".
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)the saudies FLEW.
TURK 182.
Raster
(20,998 posts)... and Bush* family "relationship" with the Saudi royal family.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)There are factions. The Bush family are merely strivers who want to be the same for America.
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)because they wanted to invade Iraq. Without the redaction, they had no excuse to attack Iraq.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)They used 9/11 as one of many excuses to invade Iraq. They linked Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)Anyone paying attention at the time knew such an attack was a great possibility.
The PNAC folks knew that and that's how they liked it - no big conspiracy was necessary for 9-11.
Various pro-war interests (especially pro-
Israel interests of the PNAC folks, who are now promoting war with Iran) combined to make Iraq the most logical target. The inconvenient fact that it was totally unprovoked was irrelevant.
Yes, they couldn't blame Saudi Arabia since that would spoil their war - hence the cover-up.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)And that's a shame.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)... do they still have the roving "kill" teams ready to hinder discussion?
get the red out
(13,466 posts)The rumors about this have floated around for quite some time now. Of course, this is a British news source, I can't imagine it getting the attention it should in this country.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Oh wait, it's not a sex scandal.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Chewing gum after a while loses its flavor and you spit out.
JM
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Popular semantics.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Certain people are allowed to run around loose. The wrong person got PPRd.
mountain grammy
(26,625 posts)Senate Bill 1471 was introduced at a Capitol Hill press conference where Senator Paul was joined by Congressmen Walter Jones, Stephen Lynch and Thomas Massie as well as former Senator Bob Graham and several 9/11 family members, including Terry Strada, national chair of 9/11 Families and Survivors United for Justice Against Terrorism.
http://28pages.org/2015/06/01/watch-live-press-conference-introducing-senate-28-pages-resolution-on-tuesday-june-2/
and, as I'm choking out the words, thank you Rand Paul.
Kingofalldems
(38,459 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)invented ISIS by someone who's an Archer fan?
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)brush
(53,791 posts)Those fired generals and colonels are the leaders of ISIS.
valerief
(53,235 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)douggg
(239 posts)for Bush's Saudi friends and bin Laden's relatives.
How did Bush know that they needed safe passage out of America?
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Do we already know that answer? I haven't thought about that before.
How did they know?
Anyone?
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)I've never seen that question raised. I'd love to know if anyone has ever heard it asked to Bush.
Welcome to DU
douggg
(239 posts)I don't know how and I'm not worried about the credit.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)explain how to post a new thread. It's really no different than replying to a comment and knowing how to do it comes in handy when you would like to start a discussion
First click on "General Discussion" which is on the left hand of the screen.
Then click on the "Start a Discussion" blue button
After that its just like making a comment.
douggg
(239 posts)No idea if it will draw comments.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I'm guessing this is a rather singular event that's fairly indicative of the power structure of the secret state.
LIHOP.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)MIHOP and then covered it up.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)90-percent
(6,829 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6771578
My conclusion is that the criminals of the GWB White House were TOO STUPID to pull off a 9-11 as a conspiracy but they LIHOP'ED it because they did not have the brainpower to comprehend the scale of the 9-11 attacks.
"Gee wizz, Bandar, I thought all you guys were going to do is shoot up a shopping mall. Flying planes into buildings? Really? Don't you think that just may be a wee bit over the top, my dear friend?" - hypothetical imaginary post 9-11 conversation between Bandar Bush And GW Bush.
-90% Jimmy
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)That said, they may have still been in on the initial planning.
As to being too stupid? No they weren't too stupid and Bush was a very successful president for the people he represented. He just didn't represent the 99%.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Eventually there is going to be one. You don't invade and murder what some say was a million people, without consequences.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)but, but, but they are our friends....
closeupready
(29,503 posts)They_Live
(3,236 posts)that went missing on 9/10/2001. I wonder where it went?
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)I still think those lives lost on that horrible day matter and I still think no honest justice has been done in their name.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)also given KSA an ultimatum to hand over everyone involved, or we would come in with the Marines to get them ourselves.
History would be different. America and the world would be a better place.
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)...which, if accepted as meaningful, only serves to reinforce the utterly false story that 19 hijackers (and bin Laden, al-Qa'ida) were the people responsible for carrying out the attacks that fundamentally changed America into a full-blown fascist state. Of course wealthy Saudis were involved, as were other wealthy people from other countries, all who stood to benefit in one way or another from the attacks.
Let's see Bob Graham look into why several of these alleged Saudi-financed hijackers were reported in foreign media to still be alive (one of these sources was the BBC, who actually questioned the man and he told them he was shocked to discover that he was dead), how all of their passports were supposedly recovered, intact and undamaged, from the ashes of the WTC Towers and Pentagon, and lastly, why there is no evidence of any crashed plane at the site of the Pentagon on that day (official story was that it "vaporized" upon impact lol).
I know Democratic Underground doesn't take too kindly to people extrapolating beyond certain intellectual bounds of discourse, but letting 9/11 slide by and simply accepting a blatantly false accounting of what happened has completely changed this country for the worse, and I predict, it marked the beginning of the end of what was once the greatest country in modern times. When and if our descent into global irrelevance happens, I'll be there to say "I told you so".
Jeroen
(1,061 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)The truth that should be obvious just by looking at the way the buildings fell.
juajen
(8,515 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)solves that mystery very nicely and is impeccably documented. Worth reading.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Too much "funny business" has happened since the stolen presidential election of 2,000.
The funny business appears to be continuing.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)hint, MIHOP or LIHOP *doesn't even matter*: it could've been a dam burst
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Garden_Plot
Deadbeat Republicans
(111 posts)Mission accomplish...
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)JM
me b zola
(19,053 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)I'll tell you who I consider to be crazy - people who believe everything a demonstrably corrupt government tells them.
Raster
(20,998 posts)brush
(53,791 posts)he won't survive for long.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)asjr
(10,479 posts)walking together holding hands--I think it was Prince Bandar.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Like lovers
?w=640
asjr
(10,479 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)Go Bernie Go!
chapdrum
(930 posts)We can probably count on that. On top of which: The One Percent (Bandar, Bin Laden, Bush) take care of their own.
If it's ever released, maybe there's an explanation of how WTC 7 came down hours later, after not being struck by a plane.
complendio
(14 posts)Or certain Saudis not linked to the royalty?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)And no one who is anyone in SA isn't linked at the hip to the royal turds.
Beowulf42
(204 posts)Traitors, traitors, traitors. How can Bush call himself an American patriot when his basic impulse was to protect the f^&king Saudis? I would like to say I'm surprised, but I am not. To these imbeciles, money speaks louder than words. They are living personifications of obscenities. Hang every one of them. I have a special tree in my yard we can use.
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)That way, we can get some Pay-per-View money and some knitting done.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)accountability or consequences for it. When is treason, not treason?
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)business partners and the guy whose ring he kissed. Everybody who is surprised by this stand on your head. What an evil little POS he always has been.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)Owl
(3,642 posts)All should be public knowledge! Why won't our administration bring this to light?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)hopefully O will do something about it. However, I've been very disappointed about so many things this admin has or has not done.
StarzGuy
(254 posts)Maybe the whole 9/11 attack was really just a conspiracy to keep oil prices high and flowing all the while selling all sorts of military hardware to whom ever in the middle east. If it turns out to be true that Bush covered up the Saudi play on 9/11 he then in my eyes he is a traitor. Add Darth Vader (Cheney) to that list of traitors. They then should be arrested, tried as traitors and be given the maximum sentence allowed.
Release the damn documents so we can see the truth. We can handle it.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Family members from US soil before allowing the commercial airlines to resume their flights.