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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:26 AM Jun 2015

Campus says it was not involved in warrants for graduation celebrants

Source: USA Today

Officials at a Mississippi college that hosted a high school graduation during which cheering celebrants were asked to leave are saying their school had no involvement in the May 21 incident that has grabbed nationwide attention.

The campus of Northwest Mississippi Community College in the Memphis metropolitan area played host to the Senatobia High School graduation in which four audience members who cheered for graduates were put out of the ceremonies. Warrants have been issued for the arrests of three of the four, according to the Clarion-Ledger, and at least two of those escorted out were black, prompting buzz on social media as to whether race was a factor. The charge is disturbing the peace.

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Jay Foster, superintendent of the Senatobia Municipal School District, approached campus police to complete an affidavit for disturbing the peace, according to the statement. He then took that affidavit to Tate County, Miss., Justice Court, in Senatobia, where he filed it and warrants were issued, the statement read.

"Northwest Campus Police had no involvement in issuing or serving these warrants," the statement read.


Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/06/05/senatobia-high-school-graduation/28520249/



Time for Jay Foster to go.

Feel free to sign the petition, if you haven't already done so:

https://www.change.org/p/senatobia-public-school-district-demand-the-immediate-resignation-or-termination-of-senatobia-ms-public-school-district-superintendent-jay-foster
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Campus says it was not involved in warrants for graduation celebrants (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 OP
signed JackInGreen Jun 2015 #1
Who is the judge? HassleCat Jun 2015 #2
If I were the judge, I would have looked at Jay Foster and said, GGJohn Jun 2015 #3
Obviously this was the wrong approach for detering cheering at a graduation ceremony exboyfil Jun 2015 #4
Huh? How is it rude to cheer for your child graduating from High School? GGJohn Jun 2015 #5
It drowns out the next name that is called exboyfil Jun 2015 #7
Simple solution, turn up the amplifiers. GGJohn Jun 2015 #11
What about the kid who has no one to cheer for her? MH1 Jun 2015 #14
That's a sad situation but you can't hold that against the people who do have family there. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 #17
True, but I think it's a big part of the rationale for the policy. MH1 Jun 2015 #18
It's the same as excessive celebration in football marshall Jun 2015 #36
Wait, what? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 #6
I did not watch the particular video exboyfil Jun 2015 #8
Still, it's a high school graduation, not a funeral. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 #9
In our area we call cheering parental support. jwirr Jun 2015 #10
+1000. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #12
A Graduation is a celebration! missingthebigdog Jun 2015 #13
Public shaming? marshall Jun 2015 #35
signed frylock Jun 2015 #15
Thanks. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 #16
I find that very difficult to believe... So the judge was at the graduation? onecaliberal Jun 2015 #19
Well, the judge would simply review the warrant application for probable cause to issue it. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 #20
How did the judge know people cheered for their children if the school didn't notify? onecaliberal Jun 2015 #22
And people wonder why there is so little respect christx30 Jun 2015 #23
Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #21
I think you forgot this. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 #24
What the fuck is the matter with you? GGJohn Jun 2015 #25
fuck yeah freedom of speech ring a bell, judge???? elehhhhna Jun 2015 #26
I think you're lost. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #27
when I graduated with my Master's degree... chillfactor Jun 2015 #28
The same goes for the family/friends who don't wear suit & tie or formal dress PersonNumber503602 Jun 2015 #29
you are kidding..right? chillfactor Jun 2015 #30
Off to ADX with them! PersonNumber503602 Jun 2015 #31
you are kidding right? chillfactor Jun 2015 #34
Oh, now it comes out that LiberalElite Jun 2015 #32
Disturbing the peace??? romanic Jun 2015 #33
Senatobia superintendent: Graduation should be 'solemn' Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 #37
What a fucking asshole. GGJohn Jun 2015 #38
I'd love if the judge held him in comtempt for wasting the court's time. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 #39
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. Who is the judge?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:40 AM
Jun 2015

What judge would issue warrants for cheering. I'm assuming the "criminals" left the hall when asked to go, or they would be charged with trespassing. The law in some states says you're not guilty of disturbing the peace if you comply with a request to quiet down, break it up, leave, etc.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
3. If I were the judge, I would have looked at Jay Foster and said,
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jun 2015

"Are you fucking stupid or what", and then refused to sign the warrants.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
4. Obviously this was the wrong approach for detering cheering at a graduation ceremony
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jun 2015

but how can you stop it? It is incredibly rude to cheer for a graduate. For many students graduating high school the only time they are recognized is when their name is called during graduation. To take that away with ridiculous behavior like this is infuriating. Also antics like doing a flip after receiving a diploma have no business at graduation.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
5. Huh? How is it rude to cheer for your child graduating from High School?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:11 AM
Jun 2015

Every graduation we went to when our kids graduated, everyone was cheering their kids, no one took umbrage at it.
This Jay Foster is a dick in the nth degree and I hope the DA looks at the cases and says, Uh, no.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
7. It drowns out the next name that is called
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:16 AM
Jun 2015

At least that is what happened at some of the graduation ceremonies that I attended. You could delay reading each name but if you have 500 graduates you are going to be sitting for a very long time.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
11. Simple solution, turn up the amplifiers.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:31 AM
Jun 2015

I don't remember having any problems hearing the next name being called, and the cheering only lasts a few seconds anyways.
Also, parents can see who's next in line to accept their diploma.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
14. What about the kid who has no one to cheer for her?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:42 AM
Jun 2015

Maybe daddy is in jail and mom has to work. Who knows.

Even without the extreme case, it can become a competition where those who get fewer cheers can feel belittled.

It's common courtesy that when they say please hold your cheers til the end and cheer for ALL the graduates, that the audience complies.

That said, being escorted out should have been enough, and even that shouldn't have happened for a minor offense, but only if people continued it and really created a disturbance.
And no way should charges be filed unless there was something much more significant that also happened.

And the person reading the names should be able to handle the occasional minor outburst. Come on people.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
17. That's a sad situation but you can't hold that against the people who do have family there.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:49 AM
Jun 2015

I don't have a particularly large family, so during my graduation my cheers weren't as loud as for graduates who had large families.

Whatever, it didn't phase me. I was glad for my family who did show up, and I didn't hold anything against anyone who got more cheers than I did.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
18. True, but I think it's a big part of the rationale for the policy.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:02 AM
Jun 2015

The main thing is that it was requested of the audience to hold their cheers until the end, and some people just couldn't handle that small request.

I think the reaction is draconian and ridiculous, but I still say it was discourteous of the people who cheered before the end.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
36. It's the same as excessive celebration in football
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:04 AM
Jun 2015

it disrupts the natural flow of a public event, and is unfair to others.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
6. Wait, what?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:14 AM
Jun 2015

It's incredibly rude for people to cheer for a graduate?

From the video that I saw, all one of the parents did was shout out "You did it!" to their daughter. How exactly is that rude?

Here's how you fix the problem:

"Mary Adams....(One Mississippi, Two Mississippi, Three Mississippi, Four Mississippi, Five Mississippi)....Joe Brown....(One Mississippi, Two Mississippi.........)"

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
8. I did not watch the particular video
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:17 AM
Jun 2015

I was talking about cheering in general. Sometimes it goes on for a very long time.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
9. Still, it's a high school graduation, not a funeral.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:18 AM
Jun 2015

Yeah, people should not over-exuberate to the point where it lasts more than 5 seconds, but there's nothing wrong with cheering a graduate in general.

And honestly, I've been to multiple graduations in my life and I can't recall any memorable instance where cheering lasted more than a few seconds anyways.

missingthebigdog

(1,233 posts)
13. A Graduation is a celebration!
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jun 2015

If the ceremony takes a little longer, so be it. Families are proud of their graduates, and rightfully so.

I also have no issue with "ridiculous" behavior on the part of the graduate, as long as it is brief and not offensive. It is their day, their ceremony, and they should be allowed to make it memorable.

The idea that a graduation should be a solemn occasion is odd to me. . . .

marshall

(6,665 posts)
35. Public shaming?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:55 AM
Jun 2015

Take their photo and post it to the school's Facebook page, along with an explanation of their rude behavior. This wouldn't be my choice in dealing with it, but it's less extreme than arrest.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
20. Well, the judge would simply review the warrant application for probable cause to issue it.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:43 PM
Jun 2015

That being said, you have to seriously question the judgment of a judge who thinks there's probable cause to charge people for "disturbing the peace" by the simple act of cheering their children at graduation.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
22. How did the judge know people cheered for their children if the school didn't notify?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jun 2015

This is what the racists do. This is part of making POC and minorities "pay" to live in society.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
23. And people wonder why there is so little respect
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jun 2015

for the law these days. When it's used as a hammer against people like this, who can respect the judge that signs it? Who would pay a fine if they don't think they did anything wrong? Who would submit to arrest for anything like that?

Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
25. What the fuck is the matter with you?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:35 PM
Jun 2015

You think this is appropriate? How did these 4 parents ruin it for the majority?



chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
28. when I graduated with my Master's degree...
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:59 PM
Jun 2015

my son yelled out "Way to go Grandma!" and some of the audience clapped...it is a moment in my life I will hold dear until the day I die...

guess you never graduated from anything or you would not be such a spoil sport...graduation is a time of joy and celebration....if you do not like family members cheering for their graduates then do not attend a graduation


btw I had 6 grandchildren when I graduated...

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
29. The same goes for the family/friends who don't wear suit & tie or formal dress
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:04 PM
Jun 2015

to these events. It's rude and disrespectful toward our sacred educational institutions. Being loud and under dressing while attending a graduation ceremony should be mandatory life sentence without chance of parole.

NO SARCASM!!!!!!!111!

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
30. you are kidding..right?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:05 PM
Jun 2015

formal dress is a thing of the past...and my family yelled and supported me through all of my graduations...memories forever cherished.....get with the program and enter the 21st century..

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
34. you are kidding right?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:59 AM
Jun 2015

dress clothes are a thing of the past.....and cheering on family is a graduation tradition....get with the program...I love it when family members cheer for the graduates..my family cheered for me and I

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
37. Senatobia superintendent: Graduation should be 'solemn'
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:47 AM
Jun 2015
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2015/06/06/superintendent-wont-say-if-hell-drop-cheering-charges/28597595/

Senatobia superintendent: Graduation should be 'solemn'
Jeff Amy, Associated Press

The Mississippi school superintendent who pressed charges against people for cheering at a high school graduation says he plans to be in court Tuesday and make a statement then, but won't say if he'll drop the charges.

Senatobia school Superintendent Jay Foster reiterated in a telephone interview Friday that his aim is to ensure that some families don't ruin graduations for others by raising a ruckus. He said that when he first started at Senatobia four years ago, out-of-control cheering meant some families couldn't hear a graduate's name called or see them cross the stage to receive their diploma.

"I think graduation should be a solemn occasion," he said. "It should have some dignity and decorum and at the end we'll celebrate together."

*****

"We thought, let's serve them with papers for disturbing the peace," he said. "They'll pay a fine. Maybe they'll learn their lesson. It was not about punishing these people. It was about the rights of the other graduates."

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What a patronizing jackass.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
39. I'd love if the judge held him in comtempt for wasting the court's time.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:51 AM
Jun 2015

You know, just to "send him a message."

But I'm hardly that optimistic.

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