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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 06:46 PM Jun 2015

Neil Young to Donald Trump: Don't Rock in My Free World

Source: Mother Jones



When Donald Trump strode on to the stage at Trump Tower on Tuesday to announce that he would enter the Republican race for president, a rock and roll anthem blared: Neil Young’s "Rockin’ in the Free World." It was an odd choice, given that the 1989 song seemed to slam a Republican administration for not giving a damn about the poor. And Young has taken exception to Trump's appropriation of his tune. A statement issued to Mother Jones for Young by his longtime manager Elliot Roberts suggests Young was not pleased by Trump's use of the song:

"Donald Trump's use of "Rockin' in the Free World" was not authorized. Mr. Young is a longtime supporter of Bernie Sanders."


Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/06/neil-young-donald-trump-bernie-sanders



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Neil Young to Donald Trump: Don't Rock in My Free World (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2015 OP
Happens a lot with repuke politicians. louis-t Jun 2015 #1
To be fair, their pickins are slim Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2015 #2
The Nuge - "Cat Scratch Fever" could be appropriate... yallerdawg Jun 2015 #3
More like 'Wang Dang Sweet Poontang'. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #11
It was Huckabee, not Romney rocktivity Jun 2015 #34
Standard Issue Republican Behavior: Use a Song at a Campaign Event W/O Permission from the Artist.. xocet Jun 2015 #4
Yep. Just take until caught. N/t SomeGuyInEagan Jun 2015 #9
There was a rumor that in 2002 Bob Dylan sent Norm "The Weasel" Coleman dflprincess Jun 2015 #18
Close encounters of the Coleman/Dylan kind rocktivity Jun 2015 #35
It's been going on for so long it's practically a status symbol LOL rocktivity Jun 2015 #29
Thanks for the link to that list. Here is the information re-organized and sorted by frequency.... xocet Jun 2015 #33
No clue The Jungle 1 Jun 2015 #5
yes the song & music vid are critical of the US wordpix Jun 2015 #24
it occurs to me I have loved Mr. Young for 46 years Skittles Jun 2015 #6
Go Bernie! alboe Jun 2015 #7
John Fuglesang was talking about great rock songs on his show today.. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #8
Every slang word for penis IS The Donald. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #10
The Scots refer to him as "Wee Donald" Divernan Jun 2015 #12
Maybe Toby Keith will write a song like "Toupée on an asshole" cosmicone Jun 2015 #13
Derivative of NOFX mahina Jun 2015 #14
Is there a song entitled "Rabid Squirrel on my Head"? longship Jun 2015 #16
There's a reason why I've always loved this man! Good on him! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2015 #15
Say what you will about Rick Perry Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2015 #17
The Donald is entitled to freebies, or so he thinks wordpix Jun 2015 #19
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #20
Trump's people are now saying the use of the song was authorized and payed for. Paladin Jun 2015 #21
if that were true, Young wouldn't make a fuss wordpix Jun 2015 #22
I want irrefutable proof from Trump and his people. Paladin Jun 2015 #23
haha, just the tip of the iceberg lies we'll get from Capt. Combover wordpix Jun 2015 #25
God knows this election cycle can use some comic relief. (nt) Paladin Jun 2015 #26
The man can't sing for shit Politicalboi Jun 2015 #27
May not be deep and rich or a vocal acrobat, but there's character and intensity in his voice. JudyM Jun 2015 #28
Yeah, but he's written some great songs. progressoid Jun 2015 #32
Politicians aren't required to "get permission" any more than your local bar has to cbdo2007 Jun 2015 #30
It's not that simple. progressoid Jun 2015 #31
According to your post, it is that simple. cbdo2007 Jun 2015 #36
It doesn't have to be an ad. progressoid Jun 2015 #37

louis-t

(23,308 posts)
1. Happens a lot with repuke politicians.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 06:54 PM
Jun 2015

They never do research, it's beneath them. Has there EVER been a musician that complained about a Dem using one of their songs? I can't recall one. I think it was Romney that was using a Boston song and Tom Scholz just reamed him good. Called him 'dude'.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. The Nuge - "Cat Scratch Fever" could be appropriate...
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 07:12 PM
Jun 2015

considering Deep Parasite Mind Control (toxoplasmosis)!

"Stranglehold" sounds Republican!

rocktivity

(44,580 posts)
34. It was Huckabee, not Romney
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:32 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:12 PM - Edit history (6)

MTV: On the campaign trail last year, Huckabee performed covers of the Boston hit and invited former Boston guitarist Barry Goudreau...to play with him...

In his letter, Scholz notes that it was he, not Goudreau, who wrote, arranged, produced, engineered and played all the guitars on the recording..."Your claim that this was ’the guy who originally did it’ is a bit mystifying, since he never played on that recording. Nor has he been ’of Boston’ since he left...over a quarter century ago, after performing with us for only three years.”

...Scholz goes on to say that his band has never endorsed a political candidate, “and with all due respect, would not start by endorsing a candidate who is the polar opposite of most everything Boston stands for. In fact, although I’m impressed you learned my bass guitar part on More Than a Feeling, I am an Obama supporter.

“While this may seem like a little thing to you, Boston has been my life’s work...By using my song, and my band’s name...you have taken something of mine and used it to promote ideas to which I am opposed. In other words, I think I’ve been ripped off, dude!"

But you sure got the "reamed" and "dude" parts right!


rocktivity

dflprincess

(28,086 posts)
18. There was a rumor that in 2002 Bob Dylan sent Norm "The Weasel" Coleman
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:34 PM
Jun 2015

a cease and desist order after Colemen started using the "Times They Are A Changing". I never did find out if this was true but Normie did stop singing the lines from the tune.


rocktivity

(44,580 posts)
35. Close encounters of the Coleman/Dylan kind
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:24 PM
Jun 2015
TwinCities.com:

During the 2004 Republican National Convention...Sen. Norm Coleman introduced Minnesota's delegate vote saying, "Minnesota native Bob Dylan said, 'Times they are a-changin'.' They are changing in Minnesota, with our great young Republican governor Tim Pawlenty, half of our Washington delegation being Republican ..."

...(For)...the second night of the (2008) Republican convention...(t)he Minnesota Agri-Growth Council had been seeking to land Jakob Dylan and his band, the Wallflowers, to perform for 5,000 invited guests at a...nonpartisan celebration of America's food industry called AgNite...GOP conventioneers are definitely welcome...but Democrats and independents are, too.

Representatives had agreed on a performance fee, although no contracts had been signed, said Daryn McBeth, executive director of the agribusiness trade group. McBeth...is quoted...as saying, "The lead singer of the band, his dad is Bob Dylan, and I'm told he (Bob) weighed in and encouraged them not to do it because of the political nature of what's going on in town that week."

The Dylan camp...said the Wallflowers were approached to perform at the event, and turned it down. They said Bob Dylan had no involvement whatsoever....





rocktivity

rocktivity

(44,580 posts)
29. It's been going on for so long it's practically a status symbol LOL
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 04:58 PM
Jun 2015

Of these eighteen examples, 12 are rock acts and only one involves a Democrat:

http://my.xfinity.com/slideshow/entertainment-rockersvspoliticians/


rocktivity

xocet

(3,873 posts)
33. Thanks for the link to that list. Here is the information re-organized and sorted by frequency....
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:09 PM
Jun 2015
John McCain (6).....“Right Now”, Van Halen; “Eye of the Tiger”, Survivor; “Our Country” & “Pink Houses”, John Mellencamp; “My Hero”, Foo Fighters; "Running On Empty*", Jackson Browne
*John McCain, the RNC and the Ohio Republican Party

Sarah Palin (3).....“Who Says You Can't Go Home”, Bon Jovi; “Barracuda”, Heart; "Independence Day", Gretchen Peters

George W. Bush (2).....“I Won’t Back Down”, Tom Petty; “Still the One”, Orleans

Newt Gingrich (2).....“Eye of the Tiger”, Survivor; “How You Like Me Now?”, The Heavy

Michele Bachmann (2).....“American Girl”, Tom Petty; “Walking on Sunshine”, Katrina & The Waves

Chuck DeVore (2).....“The Boys of Summer” & “All She Wants to Do Is Dance”, Don Henley

Ronald Reagan (1).....“Born in the U.S.A.”, Bruce Springsteen

Mitt Romney (1).....“Wavin’ Flag”, K'naan

Charlie Crist (1).....“Road to Nowhere”, David Byrne

Barack Obama (1).....“Hold On! I’m Coming”, Sam Moore


Source: http://my.xfinity.com/slideshow/entertainment-rockersvspoliticians/20/


and now one may add the following to the list:


Donald Trump (1)....."Rockin’ in the Free World", Neil Young

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
24. yes the song & music vid are critical of the US
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:19 PM
Jun 2015

The video features poverty, homelessness, war...

The stoopids over at the Trump campaign are getting up their jingoistic America First pricks when they play it. No clue is right.

mountain grammy

(26,658 posts)
8. John Fuglesang was talking about great rock songs on his show today..
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 07:59 PM
Jun 2015

This one immediately popped into my mind.. one of the greatest!

longship

(40,416 posts)
16. Is there a song entitled "Rabid Squirrel on my Head"?
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jun 2015

Of course, then there's Rand Paul's campaign tune. "Rabid Weasel on My Head"

Either way, it is the same. Rabies is rabies. Deadly no matter what the vector.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
17. Say what you will about Rick Perry
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:30 PM
Jun 2015

At least he sticks to using the crap musicians on his side for his announcement

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
19. The Donald is entitled to freebies, or so he thinks
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:55 PM
Jun 2015

That's the way it's done in Donald World. You do me a freebie, I'll do you one, and we all make billion$ after awhile.

Paladin

(28,277 posts)
21. Trump's people are now saying the use of the song was authorized and payed for.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 10:57 AM
Jun 2015

That's not good enough. Let's see every bit of paperwork backing that claim up---right fucking now.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
22. if that were true, Young wouldn't make a fuss
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:16 PM
Jun 2015

He would be happily presiding over more $ in the bank

JudyM

(29,293 posts)
28. May not be deep and rich or a vocal acrobat, but there's character and intensity in his voice.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 04:11 PM
Jun 2015

He has a uniqueness that may not be for everyone, but his imagery is great and some of his work, like

Cinnamon Girl, Old Man, Ohio, Lonesome Me, Southern Man, like a Hurricane, are such great songs that are made greater by that plaintive echoiness of his voice.

Just my two cents, since I love his stuff.

Maybe you have to be of a certain age or frame of mind, to feel it like I do.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
30. Politicians aren't required to "get permission" any more than your local bar has to
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 05:20 PM
Jun 2015

get permission to play any songs. They pay a use fee to the publisher, who has made this song available in a catalog with millions of other songs to be played at events.

progressoid

(50,000 posts)
31. It's not that simple.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jun 2015
According to an ASCAP document called "Using Music in Political Campaigns," for a song to be used properly, "the campaign will need to contact the song's publisher and possibly the artist's record label to negotiate the appropriate licenses with them." It's unclear whether the Trump campaign contacted Young, his management company or record label to use the track. (Editor's Note: As The Hollywood Reporter notes, that usage applies only to the use of a song in a campaign ad. A representative for ASCAP declined to comment when asked for details about the case.)

Young shares a co-writing credit on "Rockin' in the Free World" with Crazy Horse guitarist Frank "Poncho" Sampedro through Young's Silver Fiddle Music and Sampedro's Poncho Villa Music, according to ASCAP.

ASCAP addresses artists' legal rights and criticisms in their document on political campaigns under the question, "Can the campaign still be criticized or even sued by an artist for playing his or her song at an event?"

"Yes. If an artist does not want his or her music to be associated with the campaign, he or she may be able to legal action even if the campaign has the appropriate copyright licenses," ASCAP says. "While the campaign would be in compliance with copyright law, it could potentially be in violation of other laws, including "Right of Publicity" and "False Endorsement."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-young-donald-trump-spar-over-rockin-in-the-free-world-use-20150617#ixzz3dMTJw0oF

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
36. According to your post, it is that simple.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 09:30 AM
Jun 2015

This was an event, not a "campaign ad" where they are free to use whatever songs they would like from the event usage catalog.

Look, I hate idiot repubes as much as anybody on here, and I'm happy to Neil Young to speak out in such a public forum against Donald Trump, but it's kind of silly for people to think they need "permission" to use the songs in all cases, at all times just because their political views are different than the artists.

progressoid

(50,000 posts)
37. It doesn't have to be an ad.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:16 AM
Jun 2015

This part:

... If an artist does not want his or her music to be associated with the campaign, he or she may be able to legal action even if the campaign has the appropriate copyright licenses," ASCAP says. "While the campaign would be in compliance with copyright law, it could potentially be in violation of other laws, including "Right of Publicity" and "False Endorsement."
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