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Mon Aug 17, 2015, 01:26 AM

Boxing out Biden

Source: Politico

At fundraiser, Clinton and Obama supporters revel in unity and hope the vice president will take a pass.

EDGARTOWN, Mass. – As Joe Biden considers a possible run for president, the donors he’d need to be viable appear to be ruling him out....Clinton-Obama unity — not Biden’s decision — was the theme of the weekend on Martha’s Vineyard. The Obamas are currently on vacation on the island, where Bill and Hillary Clinton spent most summers during his two terms. Obama and the former president played golf on Saturday morning and toasted their mutual longtime friend Vernon Jordan at his 80th birthday party that evening.
On Sunday, ... Obama vacation regulars, like private equity investor and golf buddy Glenn Hutchins, mingled over one-bite BLTs and chicken sausages, with the likes of Sandy Berger, Bill Clinton’s national security adviser.

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While there was some hand-wringing about Bernie Sanders’ rise on Sunday, there’s zero appetite to see the vice president offer himself as another alternative, said Rob Liberatore, who as a former aide to the late Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) has known Biden for more than 30 years.... “I would be surprised if he decided to run, unless something happened to Hillary, something health-wise or who knows what,” said Liberatore.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/boxing-out-joe-biden-121413.html?hp=t2_r



I am a skeptic of the Biden may run talk. I think it is mostly lazy media trying to manufacture a story line and partly Republican shit stirring.

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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 01:28 AM

1. Unlike the Gore running talk I think the Biden talk is real but I don't think he'll run. n/t

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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 01:28 AM

2. Duplicate link

 

the OG can be found here but I'm glad this story is getting attention it deserves.

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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 01:34 AM

3. Politics as usual for the Third Way Democrats

"On Sunday, ... Obama vacation regulars, like private equity investor and golf buddy Glenn Hutchins, mingled over one-bite BLTs and chicken sausages, with the likes of Sandy Berger, Bill Clinton’s national security adviser."

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:43 AM

7. One bite BLTs

isn't that special? I'd expect it to fall apart once the toothpick was removed. Wonder how that would go over in Iowa?

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:08 AM

10. Must have been why HRC Saturday in Iowa,

jumped out of an SUV, took a bite of a Pork-Chop-on-a-Stick and then drove off (while Bernie talked to crowds).

This must have been also where Steph Curry of the NBA Golden State Warriors (MVP), was playing golf with Obama.

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:36 AM

12. You eat it off the toothpick--it's an hors d'oeuvre!

I've had one-bite grilled cheese with shots of tomato soup, too.

These kids and their retro "childhood days" cocktail snacks!!!

They'd probably like those sandwich-related munchies in Iowa better than the bacon-wrapped scallops and the frou-frou chicken on a stick with an unpronounceable sauce name!

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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 02:08 AM

4. The Wall St Fix is in

 

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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 02:18 AM

5. I understand your consternation about a possible Biden run.

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Response to merrily (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:30 AM

11. As a Sanders supporter my only consternation is over the nonsense that the race needs an alternative

to Clinton. Sanders already offers an alternative to Clinton (as do O'Malley, Chaffe, and Webb for that matter), and the implication that Biden somehow better fills that role annoys me somewhat.

With that said, I'm happy for more voices generally, but I'm not sure that Biden's voice is really all that different from Clinton's, and I am not really looking forward to watching Biden enter a race only to conclude his long and distinguished career as a third-place "also ran," which seems to be the likeliest outcome. Fortunately, I think a Biden run is extremely unlikely.

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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:36 AM

6. The Corporate 3rd Way faction may be trying to get Biden to run as insurance against a Hillay spill

 

and as a way to keep control of the entire process. But Biden has good excuses not to leap when they summon him, and he's using them.

I think Biden regrets selling out to banksters....took him long enough!

The Corporations haven't bought Bernie...and it's too late to start, which is why he needs security as soon as possible, and not Secret Service, which is incompetent, if not corrupt.

If they try to blackmail him, he just needs to talk to Julian Assange....so that method is out.

I cringe when I see Bernie in crowds...but if the crowd mass doesn't mind serving as his bodyguard, it might be safe, for a while. It's when it starts to get down to the wire that nerves will be at the breaking point and things will get VERY dangerous for Bernie and our country.

I'd like to be proven wrong, and not live through 1963 again. Or 1968. Once was too much.

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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 08:00 AM

8. Due to his son's wishes I think Biden feels he must at least respect the idea

I think Biden is compelled to let the idea of his running have a decent amount of air to breathe. If it catches on, he'll very seriously consider it. If the idea ends up seeming very far fetched then it gets moved to the back burner, for in case the situation changes.

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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 09:56 AM

9. If true that his dying kid begged him to run, he will run even if he knows he can not win

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:39 AM

13. His kid was in significant cognitive distress by the time that request was made.

It was cruel for anyone to even repeat it/publicize it.

Biden is beloved as an adjunct, but he's never been able to make a go of it as the Main Event. He's run before and he never catches on.

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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 12:11 PM

14. Its like stories made up to say he'd run for one term.....

all designed to stirr the pot by the media..


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