‘Suffocate and bake’: new US method of killing bird flu-infected poultry by heat stress prolongs suf
Source: Reuters
Suffocate and bake: new US method of killing bird flu-infected poultry by heat stress prolongs suffering by up to 40 minutes
PUBLISHED : Sunday, 20 September, 2015, 5:43pm
UPDATED : Sunday, 20 September, 2015, 6:02pm
Reuters
in Chicago
US agriculture officials seeking to control deadly bird flu have approved a method of killing infected poultry that entails sealing barns shut, turning up the heat and shutting off ventilation systems, an option that has been condemned by animal rights groups as cruel.
The Agriculture Department (USDA) said that it would consider using the method if there are no other ways to kill flocks within 24 hours of infections being detected.
The agency wants to cull infected flocks within a day to prevent the virus from spreading. Nearly 50 millions chickens and turkeys died from bird flu or were culled from December through June in the countrys worst animal disease outbreak on record.
Shutting down ventilation systems in poultry houses "essentially bakes the birds to death," the Humane Society of the United States said.
Read more: http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1859848/suffocate-and-bake-new-us-method-destroying-bird-flu-infected-poultry
Demeter
(85,373 posts)I've had this horrible virus for 3.5 weeks now. Suffocating in a hot barn sounds like relief to me.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)rolled up. It didn't say how long the foam or carbon dioxide method takes to kill a bird, but IMO, baking to death is not an acceptable solution.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)done after the poor chickens/turkeys are dead. I can see needing to use this method to sterilize the barns after the chickens are dead but not as a way of killing them. There has to be an easier way of dealing with this.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)because it's not about how easy it is, it's about how fast it is. If they can't do it fast enough by using another method, the risk of more flocks being infected and having to be put down are going rise. They are trying desperately to stop a major rapid spreading and costly virus from wiping out our flocks. I'm wondering where the birds are killed and processed, normally? Probably not at the farms. They are most likely shipped live to processing facilities that are set up to slaughter large numbers of birds. If they are infected, they don't want them being shipped anywhere. They need to contain it.
Also, since these birds are not allowed out of the barns they are raised and live in, how are they becoming infected in the first place? Why can't we find a better way to stop it before it happens. I can see free range flocks being infected, because they are exposed to other birds.
One thing that this does tell me is that factory farming means not being able to handle bad situations. Because of the numbers of birds infected, or exposed, they don't have adequate measures to deal with this humanely. I think factory farming of all livestock needs to be put to an end. All livestock suffers in factory farms. Smaller farms could handle this and there would be fewer animals being infected at one time, and much easier to deal with it quckly once they are.
So, I'm torn, because this may be their only option right now to euthanize these birds and stop the spread of infection fast enough to contain it. Or is it partly because they don't use clean enough handling systems, and the humans are the ones spreading it (on their shoes or clothes)? Maybe it's a proactive measure that needs to be set up as a requirement for all fowl factories.
Something surely needs to change.
Iowa, the hardest hit, has euthanized more than 31 million birds, including approximately 40% of the states 60 million laying hens, according to Randy Olson, executive director of the Iowa Poultry Association...Minnesota, the leading turkey producer, has lost nearly 9 million turkeys.The massive challenge of disposing of these sick birds illustrates the scale of chicken farming in the US. When avian flu infects a single bird on a chicken farm, the whole population has to be destroyed in order to stop the spread. In Iowa, for example, where an egg farm holds anywhere from 70,000 to 5 million birds, infection means slaughtering an unimaginable number of animals.Bird flu is a window into how todays poultry flocks live day to day, in intensive confinement and unsanitary conditions. Its an unnatural, unsustainable situation.Composting in which dead birds are laid in rows, mixed with a bulking agent such as wood chips or saw dust and then left for approximately 30 days is the preferred method of disposal, Benson says, because the virus is killed by the heat produced as the birds decompose.
http://www.theguardian.com/vital-signs/2015/jul/14/bird-flu-devastation-highlights-unsustainability-of-commercial-chicken-farming
Apparently heat is required to kill the virus, which may be why they've resorted to this method, rather than composting for 30 days which means possible spread?
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)They load 'em on a flatbed trailer and off they go.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but the usda is in the tank for agribusiness.
just another thing the bernie revolution has to change
poor birds....
I wonder if people realize that so many of our difficult to deal with viruses and bacteria come from the animals that are raised to be killed? If people weren't killing them and eating them, these diseases would not be as much of a problem in society. Does anyone ever think about that?
navarth
(5,927 posts)We will pay for the disgusting cruelty to other species. Kharma happens. I wonder how many illnesses and infirmities are directly related to eating the flesh of these poor tortured innocent creatures?
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)the trail of suffering and death will visit those who caused it, and unfortunately we are already paying as is our planet.
regarding the illnesses caused, you might be interested in this link. it was written by dr neal barnard and talks about the financial cost of the illnesses caused by meat based diets. it is from 1995, but it was a landmark paper on the subject. just imagine the cost in today's dollars.....
http://www.birdflubook.org/resources/Barnard_1995_PM_24_646.pdf
jwirr
(39,215 posts)overcrowded - like they used to be they would not have the disease either. We raise our chickens and turkeys free range and they are healthy.
Our hens provide enough eggs for our extended family+ but they only lay for about 3 years. After that we eat them as stew hens. And get new ones. We only raise 12 turkeys - one for each month for our family gatherings.
A big problem that urbanization has caused is that so many people can not raise their own food anymore and so these huge overcrowded farms have become the way to do it.
Was at a funeral in Iowa couple of years ago and there was a farm about a mile from the cemetery that had over 3000 cattle they were raising for sale. The smell was so bad that you were pretty sure that even the dead were smelling it. That never used to happen in Iowa when I was a kid.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)the animals are raised in horrific conditions, get diseases that spread to humans, are fed antibiotics (which creates anti biotic resistant disease), and are given growth hormone to increase profit.
you are correct that in the earlier days of the family farm this did not happen. mass "production" has left us with an awful environmental legacy, not to mention the immense suffering.
i think a plant based diet is the way the world is going to have to go, but situations like yours cause much less environmental impact and a life before slaughter that is not filled with commodification and abuse. i have a hunter in my family, and while i don"t agree with it, his method of obtaining meat, like yours, puts no money in the pockets of big ag. i love hearing about people who put no money in the pockets of big ag. they are a scourge on humanity and all life.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)gardens and we can and freeze or share all of the produce.
I do agree that a good share of the population of the world will soon be moving to a lot less meat. Since I have diabetes I have almost moved to that point myself. The problem is that we have so many animal based foods like eggs, cheese, yogurts, milk, etc. that it will be hard.
When one switches to a different diet than they grew up with it is very important to know how to do it. My sister and her husband became vegetarians to help with hunger in Africa (which really does not help the problem) and they had no idea what the requirements were. She has always had a weight problem for birth and trying to replace meat was a great problem for her. Too much starch.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)to grow more. but there a lot of farmers markets around for local produce. i bet eating your own locally grown veggies is helpful for diabetes. i wish more people were willing to see the link between what/how they eat and their health. it could reduce much human suffering as well as animal.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)diet even though they do not have it.
Farmers markets are really a good move for our country as it is starting to move away from the factory farms. It also cuts down on the travel costs of raising foods on one coast for the other coast.
In our family farm most of us live in town and cannot raise animals there but one of my grandsons has enough land and we all share the costs of his raising what we need for the family. Kind of a cooperative but family owned. A neighbor has a big greenhouse for his family.
We are starting to change.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)movement is really taking off whether for reasons of cost, health, or wanting to be more in control of where your food comes from.
if i live long enough to see the demise of big ag, i would be happy.
a greenhouse....definitely on my wish list!
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)The chickens do not get the virus because they are in those conditions,the virus just has much more of them to spread too. Small flocks like yours can catch the virus. But because your flock is small it does less damage.
Avian flu comes from water fowl. It doesn't kill the water fowl, but it does kill domesticated chickens and turkeys if they come into contact with excrement from an infected water fowl.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)I was small - some 73 years ago - and we also had water fowl and we have never had any problems. But then we are also clean-freaks when it comes to the buildings the animals live in.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)What I was trying to say is that the flu comes from water fowl originally and can infect large or small groups of fowl. The problem with the factory farms is that they keep huge amounts of animals together in a tiny space so it spreads fast and easy. If a small flock gets exposed it is a much smaller loss. I am in favor of small free range chickens. I grew up with them.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)They also shut the doors, turn off the ventilation, and inject fir fighting foam. I guess that would be quicker.
NickB79
(19,236 posts)Then the birds are mixed with farm waste and composted.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)the flies drawn to rotting corpses spread virus as well.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)the remains of the poor victims. but greed causes companies to do terrible things, and there is money to be made in rendering
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)As for the flies, they are not totally sure on that, but there is a possibility they could become vectors.
Ex Lurker
(3,813 posts)A mom and pop operation in my town cleared over $7 million profit in the first eight months of the year. That's with about five people working there, all family members. They all pay themselves six figure salaries in addition to the net worth accruing daily. Good, hard working people who've had a windfall.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Duppers
(28,120 posts)Thanks for posting this.