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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:21 AM Oct 2015

Law Firm Labeled Hate Group Leading Kim Davis' Crusade

Source: ABC news

Kim Davis' lawyer stood onstage in a Washington D.C. hotel and pointed to a photo on the screen. It showed 100,000 people packed into a Peruvian soccer stadium, Mat Staver told the crowd, all there to pray for the Kentucky clerk battling against gay marriage.

The crowd erupted.

It wasn't true.

Staver's firm, the Liberty Counsel, which revealed Davis' secret meeting with Pope Francis, has been accused by advocacy groups of peddling misrepresentations in the past. Yet it has become the main source of details about the controversial pope meeting.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/law-firm-labeled-hate-group-leading-kim-davis-34237123



What a surprise. NOT.

EDIT: If you have to lie and manipulate to "win", isn't that God's way of telling you YOU'RE WRONG???

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elleng

(130,905 posts)
1. Been clear to me for some time this 'lawyer' is NOT,
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:31 AM
Oct 2015

but is rather paid by someones with deep pockets to misrepresent. Should be disbarred, imo.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. there has to be a ground from the ethics rules
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:12 PM
Oct 2015

most disbarment comes from misuse of client money not advocating, no matter what they are advocating for.

elleng

(130,905 posts)
13. I know that, I'm a lawyer.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:06 PM
Oct 2015

Seems he's taking advantage of an uninformed and ignorant client, and then promoting some 'interest group' rather than her interests.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
3. A Tweet from Attorney Staver's wife Anita
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:43 AM
Oct 2015

Liberty Lawyer ?@AnitaStaver Oct 2

Liberty Lawyer Retweeted Liberty Counsel

Vatican probably got death threats like #KimDavis and Liberty Counsel received from intolerant radicals

Archae

(46,327 posts)
4. "Liberty Council" is notrious for anti-gay hysterics, and flat-out lies.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:49 AM
Oct 2015

They claimed the hosts of "The View" called for Kim Davis to be killed.

They claim all gays are inclined toward being pedophiles.
(This is mostly what got them onto SPLC hate group list.)

Even their name is a lie.
Why call yourself "Liberty" when their goal is to end it?

NonMetro

(631 posts)
5. Did They hook up on Christian mingle or something?
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:59 AM
Oct 2015

Maybe Kim put out a feeler for hubby #4, and Mat responded? How else can we explain this lawyer from Orlando, Florida, representing this goofy woman from Nowheresville, Kentucky?

OK! I admit it could be because they're both religious nut cases. Is there a religious nut mingle website?

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
8. It's pretty easy to explain
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:16 PM
Oct 2015

Ambulance Chasers for Jesus actively seeks out cases like this, and rushes to their aid. I checked the Wikipedia page on this group, and they (1) are tax-exempt, (2) pull in $4 million per year and (3) pay their founding partner couple 10 percent of their gross revenue. The Internal Revenue Service REALLY needs to investigate these dickweeds.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
9. Conflict of interest
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:51 PM
Oct 2015

There appears to be a conflict of interest. The attorney's want to maximize donations and fight idiological cause. This may not be what is best legally for their client.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. Of course it is not a surprise but 'associates with hate groups' is not a good line of attack for
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 03:53 PM
Oct 2015

Francis' defenders to use because Francis and his Vatican have held conferences to which they have invited groups like Family Research Council and NOM, designated hate groups. This is just a fact.
When I read OP's like this one, I wonder if the OP is actually endorsing all the groups Francis has organized with, the Heritage Foundation, March for Life, FRC, NOM and so forth. Because the reaction seems so selective, and confined only to this Davis bullshit when the anti gay organizing has been ongoing in his Vatican....
Vatican Strengthens Ties with Evangelicals and Mormons Against Gay Marriage
"The presence of American evangelicals and the LDS Church was particularly notable. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church, and Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, each gave speeches, and representatives from the Heritage Foundation and the Family Research Council in Washington attended. President Henry Eyring of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ first presidency spoke and Elder Tom Perry of the LDS’s Quorum of the Twelve also joined. In the United States, this trio of faiths has worked together to stand against the government’s Affordable Care Act’s contraception mandate, but it was the first time they were coming together at the Vatican to talk about marriage.
Adds Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council: “The atmosphere was almost euphoric as the attendees from six of the world’s seven continents broke from the historic gathering to return to their respective nations renewed in their stand for marriage,” he says. “The courts may declare otherwise, and Hollywood may depict its demise, but the union of a man and a woman as the natural and enduring definition of marriage will endure until the end.”
http://time.com/3597245/vatican-evangelicals-mormons-gay-marriage/

Francis took part in that event as well. Read it. Honest people would.
Now, Family Research Council and Tony Perkins at Southern Poverty Law Center
The Family Research Council (FRC) bills itself as “the leading voice for the family in our nation’s halls of power,” but its real specialty is defaming gays and lesbians.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/family-research-council

Tony Perkins heads the Family Research Council, an anti-LGBT hate group located in Washington, D.C. Perkins has a sordid political history, having once purchased Klansman David Duke’s mailing list for use in a Louisiana political campaign he was managing. In 2001, Perkins gave a speech to a Louisiana chapter of the Council of Conservative Citizens, a white supremacist group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/tony-perkins


So facts are facts. What will you do with them?

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