Israelis killed in Jerusalem bus stabbing and car ramming

[Jesus Malverde]

Source: Guardian UK

Two Palestinians armed with a knife and a gun have launched a deadly attack on a Jerusalem bus, killing two Israelis and injuring three more in the worst day of violence since the start of the current escalation in tensions.

In an almost simultaneous attack in a Jewish neighbourhood of the city on Tuesday morning, an assailant rammed a car at speed into a bus stop before stabbing bystanders, killing one and injuring two others.

Footage showed those waiting at the stop thrown into the air and the driver, a man in a blue T-shirt, running from the car with what appears to be a meat cleaver and hacking at one of the people knocked down. He moved on to start attacking an older looking ultra-orthodox man before being shot by a security guard.

Amid calls by Jerusalem’s mayor, Nir Barkat, to seal Palestinian neighbourhoods of the city, the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, is to meet in an emergency session with his security cabinet to consider his response later on Tuesday.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/jerusalem-bus-stabbing-escalation-in-violence-israel-palestine

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Video of the horrific car attack. Warning extreme violence and death

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=372_1444745300

[geek tragedy]

1. all of these attackers are coming from East Jerusalem, which means it's strictly

an Israeli security issue, not the Palestinian Authority, which isn't allowed to operate there.

This is something of a taste of what a PA collapse would look like.

[Fast Walker 52]

2. that video is crazy

Israel is in a really bad way right now. Things are boiling over and getting very ugly.

[uawchild]

3. No, Israel is fine

Israel has taken the long long view of containing the Palestinians and maintaining an increasing level of control over the West Bank.
Many Israelis feel that control of the West Bank is an existential necessity for the survival of the Jewish state. How this occupation ends, if it ever does, is beyond my ability to predict, but its obvious that Israel is willing and able to absorb the physical and political costs of maintaining this vise like grip on the West Bank.

[DetlefK]

4. Israel is willing to absorb the costs for ethnic cleansing. That's nice to hear.

Whether israeli settlers burn down palestinian farms, whether the IDF razes a palestinian village to the ground because it wasn't up to code, whether the israeli bureaucracy denies building-permits to Palestinians... Israel is willing to accept these hardships.

[uawchild]

5. basically, yes

It's why, personally, I wonder if a two-state peace is possible anymore. Israel is willing and, seemingly, able to take the world's condemnation of its actions to control the West Bank and to absorb any civil unrest from the Palestinians in response. The occupation has been going on for 46 years, the longest in modern history or damn close. Why, the Soviet Union "only" occupied eastern Europe for, what, 40-45 years (1945-1949 to 1989)?

[7962]

6. Meanwhile, the number of Arab states willing to help the Palestinians form a state,

remains at zero.

[uawchild]

7. Is it time for the US and Europe to open their doors?

Very true. But how does this all end humanely? is there a humane endgame? There are 4.4 million Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, should we in the west accept them ALL as refugees/immigrants? Why not? Millions of Syrians are moving to Europe as refugees as we speak. Should we be organizing a safer rescue for the Palestinians?

[7962]

8. No. The exact opposite.

First, most of them wouldnt come here anyway.
But if Jordan & Syria & Israel were to agree to donate some land to form a "palestine" there would be no reason for them to leave. After all, Jordan was part of the original partition that re-created Israel, why shouldnt they help solve the problem? Why is it that all the neighboring Arab nations wont let palestinians assimilate into their countries NOW? If they REALLY cared about the "plight" of the palestinians, they would do something concrete to help solve the problem. But they dont, because they know the world blames Israel and thats fine with them
As for the flood into Europe, thats gotten completely ridiculous. Even the women in Syria are berating their men for leaving them to go to Europe. And whats going to happen once millions of people flood Europe? Most of whom arent even coming from Syria? They will do what they have been doing elsewhere; insisting that the host country change their way of life to accommodate THEM. The state systems in Europe are not going to be able to handle the influx of jobless.
The next few years are going to be a huge mess.

[oberliner]

9. Why are Palestinians living in refugee camps in Jordan and Lebanon?

Why aren't they given full citizenship in those countries?

[COLGATE4]

11. Love for your fellow Arab seems to be a

very scare commodity these days.

[Seeking Serenity]

12. Pan-Arabism is SO 20th Century

Sharif Ali bin Hussein (the last king of the Hejaz) wanted it. The late Egyptian president Nassar wanted it. Never materialized.

Like I said, SO last century.

[Fast Walker 52]

17. basically, sadly, yes

[cpwm17]

14. No, Israel has it really good considering its horrible behavior:

http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id2094

Clinton said in a statement: “I am alarmed by the recent wave of attacks against Israelis, including more than a dozen separate attacks since last Saturday. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. Men and women living in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, and elsewhere cannot carry groceries or travel to prayer without looking over their shoulder.

Funny there is no comment about all of the Palestinian victims of Israel's aggressions. But this statement is coming from a war loving US politician that has openly supported apartheid for the Palestinians. It doesn't look like Israel's support from the world's super power will end any time soon.

[Fast Walker 52]

18. yeah, I know, I agree

Just meant it's a horrible fucked up situation, that Israel has not made better despite being in massive control

[Adsos Letter]

10. Looked like the security guard was using a taser.

Looked like he lit him up a few times.

[Jesus Malverde]

13. There is another video that has sound you can hear the gunshots.

Took five shots to take him down.

[Adsos Letter]

16. Ah, ok. I thought taser because he kept getting back up.

I wonder if he was jacked up on something more than hate and adrenaline.

[Fast Walker 52]

19. yeah, that was what was so crazy

It's like whoever shot him didn't know where to aim

[Marrah_G]

15. Insanity- so much senseless loss of life.

[lonestarnot]

20. Cops just killed dude at Damascus gate in Jerusalem.