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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:08 AM Oct 2015

Adobe confirms major Flash vulnerability, and the only way to protect yourself is to uninstall Flash

Source: BRG

The fun never ends with Adobe Flash.

Just one day after Adobe released its monthly security patches for various software including Flash Player, the company confirmed a major security vulnerability that affects all versions of Flash for Windows, Mac and Linux computers. You read that correctly… all versions. Adobe said it has been made aware that this vulnerability is being used by hackers to attack users, though it says the attacks are limited and targeted. Using the exploit, an attacker can crash a target PC or even take complete control of the computer.

And now for the fun part: The only way to effectively protect yourself against this serious security hole is to completely uninstall Flash Player from your machine.

Read more: http://bgr.com/2015/10/15/adobe-flash-player-security-vulnerability-warning



Haven't had Flash installed on my Mac in years.
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Adobe confirms major Flash vulnerability, and the only way to protect yourself is to uninstall Flash (Original Post) onehandle Oct 2015 OP
How to uninstall Flash Player from your Mac Electric Monk Oct 2015 #1
Steve Jobs hated Flash brush Oct 2015 #27
Jobs hated most everything he did not have control over though. nt cstanleytech Oct 2015 #33
and an alternative would be..? 2naSalit Oct 2015 #2
Some possibilities Bubzer Oct 2015 #3
Is Microsoft supporting organized crime? Make7 Oct 2015 #7
hehe Bubzer Oct 2015 #9
Three more f...ing letters i - l - e ? How lazy can people get? Pretty damn lazy YOHABLO Oct 2015 #11
how do I disable flash and enable silverlight? grasswire Oct 2015 #15
It is different for each browser but always easy. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #16
Good Judgements & Habits Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #4
I have always expected Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #5
Firefox has an add on called Flash block dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #39
Yep Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #42
Everything is moving to Javascript and HTML5. joshcryer Oct 2015 #13
As if Javascript doesn't have its own problems. hobbit709 Oct 2015 #20
It does, but its problems are open source. joshcryer Oct 2015 #21
Firefox and Chrome can play HTML5 video natively Recursion Oct 2015 #17
and bbc iplayer, and the most popular stock trading app... whatthehey Oct 2015 #26
HTML5. Time to start yelling at video-content sites to set up HTML5 players. n/t backscatter712 Oct 2015 #30
HTML-5 sofa king Oct 2015 #36
I remember years ago checking settings and thinking, "WTF? Allow access to my camera?" Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #6
It would silently reset with each silent update, too. sofa king Oct 2015 #37
Seems spying on users is the default from the beginning.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #40
Just as soon as I get through Doc Martin. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #8
I just installed the Video WithOut Flash add-on and disabled Flash ... eppur_se_muova Oct 2015 #10
I've had nothing but problems with Flash. I need to find another means of playing my video etc. YOHABLO Oct 2015 #12
Opera pinebox Oct 2015 #14
Wow 2naSalit Oct 2015 #18
I even took the flash off my camera tomm2thumbs Oct 2015 #19
I also got rid of the superhero and the weird guy in the raincoat. GreatGazoo Oct 2015 #29
OMG Duzy! tomm2thumbs Oct 2015 #34
Already patched. Now, will that also be vulnerable? Maybe, but it's already patched. n/t Bossy Monkey Oct 2015 #22
What a pain SmittynMo Oct 2015 #23
personally on my home system Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #43
With the latest patch, is it ok to reinstall Adobe now?? thanks. eom a kennedy Oct 2015 #24
I love scare articles :) - Smart folks read the actual release from Adobe snooper2 Oct 2015 #25
Thanks! Flash has surely had a rough time of it over the years. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2015 #28
It's an antiquated insecure technology that is rapidly disappearing from the Web. onehandle Oct 2015 #32
It looks like Adobe has created a patch C Moon Oct 2015 #31
Thanks, just checked, I'm already up to date. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2015 #35
Cool. Me too now. C Moon Oct 2015 #41
I really dislike Adobe (nt) bigwillq Oct 2015 #38
It seems like everything they do always has security problems. Adobe PDF Reader RKP5637 Oct 2015 #44

2naSalit

(86,610 posts)
2. and an alternative would be..?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:28 AM
Oct 2015

I have Flash and it is necessary to watch much of what I watch online since I don't have a TeeVee and try to keep up with the news and some stuff on Comedy Central and u-toob.

I'm in a very remote location and it's the only way to get news and entertainment without buying a satellite dish and other stuff I can't afford to buy and maintain. Hell, internet access is pretty pricey up here in the first place but it's all inclusive at least.

I'd remove the software but I need an alternative first. Using Windows 7.

Suggestions?

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
3. Some possibilities
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:42 AM
Oct 2015
1. LightSpark:

The first and most effective software that is on top of our list of best alternatives to Adobe Flash Player is LightSpark. Developed on C language, it is an open source flash player and browser plugin that can help you view all files that you cannot view without Adobe Flash Player. It is basically meant to support all new Flash Player formats such as AVM2 and virtual machine. However, it can only run on Linux operating system.

2. Unity Web Player:

Unity Web Player, available for Windows and Mac OS X, is one of the most powerful software that can replace Adobe Flash Player easily. Unlike the other alternatives, any sorts of requirements like browser version, OS restrictions, etc. Along with playing online games and enjoying HD video streaming, it also gives you the power of developing 3D games with animated characters and mesmerizing graphics.

3. GNU Gnash:

Gnash is another free alternative created by GNU which you can use to view video streaming and rich internet media files instead of Adobe Flash Player. It has all the powerful features that you may want in an alternative to Flash Player. Unlike LightSpark, you can use Gnash on a number of platforms such as Windows, Linux, BSD, etc. It can support attributes of SWF v7, SWF v8 and SWF v9.

4. Silverlight:

Last contender on our list of alternatives to Adobe Flash Player is Silverlight –fetched out directly from the house of Microsoft. It is undoubtedly one of the software that has started giving hard time to Flash Player. As, it is based on .NET framework, it is compatible with almost every web browser, mobile devices and different operating systems. Its latest version can also be used to develop and create responsive web and mob applications.



http://www.transitionblog.com/4-most-amazing-alternatives-to-adobe-flash-player/

Make7

(8,543 posts)
7. Is Microsoft supporting organized crime?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:51 AM
Oct 2015

[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #bfbfbf inset;"]Its latest [font style="font-size:0.9231em;"][Silverlight][/font] version can also be used to develop and create responsive web and mob applications.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
16. It is different for each browser but always easy.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:31 AM
Oct 2015

Just do a search for disable Flash and your browser name. It is usually a good idea to keep it disabled as a default and just turn it on when you really need it.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
4. Good Judgements & Habits
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:46 AM
Oct 2015

Never have the computer on-line w/out it being attended. Have a toggle shortcut icon on your desktop you can switch on & off your network connection at will. Kill the power if you suspect something phishey etc.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
5. I have always expected
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:49 AM
Oct 2015

something like this has been going on for a good long while now and is not really new. Once again, just have an easy network kill switch handy so when it is not in full use you can be disconnected. Maybe have a separate computer you use to do all the sensitive transactions with and the other for... entertainment.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
39. Firefox has an add on called Flash block
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:52 AM
Oct 2015

It replaces Flash content with a red button so you can click if you want the Flash, else leave it alone.

Chromium does not seem to have an issue, it plays stuff that even Firefox resists opening.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
42. Yep
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 01:52 PM
Oct 2015

Loves' the FlashBlock. And, when I want to store and archive video on my machine, their Flash Download comes in handy as well.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
13. Everything is moving to Javascript and HTML5.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:09 AM
Oct 2015

With Web GL. Firefox and Chrome are already phasing out Flash, it served us well but it'll be gone in a few short years.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
21. It does, but its problems are open source.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:20 AM
Oct 2015

Unlike Flash.

Any issues in the two most popular javascript engines can be resolved by developers. Flash is closed, its issues are Adobe's issues. Flash might survive if Adobe open sources' it, but that's unlikely to happen.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. Firefox and Chrome can play HTML5 video natively
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:37 AM
Oct 2015

The only thing that really needs flash nowadays is the old flash games and homestarrunner.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
36. HTML-5
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:14 AM
Oct 2015

The HTML-5 protocol is capable of delivering streaming content, and it finally works, and someone is finally using it.

Twitch.tv is in the process of migrating to HTML 5 and this week I haven't noticed any Flash streams, so they must be well on their way to complete.

Chrome defaults to HTML 5 automatically when available, without any additional downloads.

Unfortunately, it is dependent upon the content provider to deliver the HTML 5 stream. Recall that Netflix and Silverlight were chained together for years and in all that time Microsoft could never figure out how to get the stream to set the resolution according to the available bandwidth, rather than the other way around. That is why your movies looked like slide shows on nice TVs and monitors--for years.

Many other content providers will also be far too incompetent to change their delivery method.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
40. Seems spying on users is the default from the beginning....
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:19 PM
Oct 2015

The mindset that would include the code is the weird thing.

I guess they could claim it was for video conferencing but once it became obvious it was going to be a movie player the thought of Big Brother should have dawned on them.

This is also where we get back to the Supreme Court saying there is a fundamental Right To Privacy in the Constitution. (Thank you Thurgood).

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
12. I've had nothing but problems with Flash. I need to find another means of playing my video etc.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:02 AM
Oct 2015

Thanks for the suggestions .. will try them out. Although I'll probably make the problem worse. But lately Flash has been crashing and crashing. I'm so damn sick of it. Life is frustrating enough.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
14. Opera
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:18 AM
Oct 2015

I use Opera as my main browser which blocks ALL flash unless I click it to play manually. I figure that is probably the safest bet out there besides completely installing it.

2naSalit

(86,610 posts)
18. Wow
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:58 AM
Oct 2015

Thanks for all the possibilities! Thank you all for quickly responding. This will take a little time for me to sort out and it's past bedtime, work calls early in the morning, but I am anxiously awaiting a little time over the next couple days to figure out which alternate to choose. This is kind of exciting in techie kind of way. I've been pretty dismayed with FLASH for a while now so this has a good feeling to it by having options.

I wonder if this affects other ADOBE products, I use Open Office rather than WORD... but that's a topic for a different day.

Thank You All!!

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
23. What a pain
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:38 AM
Oct 2015

I too have been having major issues with flash. The code totally sucks. So I decided to remove flash from my PC (Windows 7). I already have Silverlight installed. The first two sights I hit were pogo.com and freespeech.org. Both were immediately flagged that flash was required, and would not proceed. I'm sure I'll run into this on other sites.

So if Silverlight is installed, and these sights specifically require flash, how does one get around this to get the site to work for the user?

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
43. personally on my home system
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:00 PM
Oct 2015

I kept with the Earlier 2000's version of ver. 9, I believe, and never update. Got suspicious when a new update was coming out every other week demanding to be upgraded.

Dixiegrrrrl's Post #39 is a real decent solution to only having what you want on a web page to be 'Flash Active' (Like your video window)

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
25. I love scare articles :) - Smart folks read the actual release from Adobe
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:52 AM
Oct 2015
https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa15-05.html


UPDATE: Adobe expects updates to be available as early as October 16.

Affected software versions
Adobe Flash Player 19.0.0.207 and earlier versions for Windows and Macintosh
Adobe Flash Player Extended Support Release version 18.0.0.252 and earlier 18.x versions
Adobe Flash Player 11.2.202.535 and earlier 11.x versions for Linux

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
32. It's an antiquated insecure technology that is rapidly disappearing from the Web.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:31 PM
Oct 2015

Even Adobe wants it to fade away.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
44. It seems like everything they do always has security problems. Adobe PDF Reader
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:05 PM
Oct 2015

has always been a headache. Then, they stopped supporting all Linux. Fortunately there are other tools now instead of Adobe. I updated Flash because I still have some stuff that needs it, but I disabled every option in Flash.

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