Students across U.S. to march over debt, free public college

[n2doc]

Source: reuters

Students were set to walk out of classrooms across the United States on Thursday to protest ballooning student loan debt for higher education and rally for tuition-free public colleges and a minimum wage hike for campus workers.

The demonstrations are planned just two days after thousands of fast-food workers took to the streets in a nationwide day of action pushing for a $15-an-hour minimum wage and union rights for the industry.

Events for Thursday's protests, dubbed the Million Student March, have been planned at colleges and universities from Los Angeles to New York. Thousands of people signed up to attend on Facebook groups, though it remained to be seen how many would ultimately participate.

"Education should be free. The United States is the richest country in the world, yet students have to take on crippling debt in order to get a college education," the movement's organizers said in a statement on their website.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/12/us-usa-college-protests-idUSKCN0T116W20151112

[AzDar]

1. Vote. Sanders.

[VanillaRhapsody]

2. Vote Clinton

[AzDar]

4. I see that just as your Candidate imitates Bernie, you're imitating me... Good move!

[VanillaRhapsody]

6. Actually Bernie is NOW imitating her....

he had to BECOME a Democrat...

[AzDar]

14. If * that's* your criteria... then he's 'imitating' FDR. After all, it isn't what you SAY you are...

It's what ( and whom) your policies REPRESENT.

[VanillaRhapsody]

16. Then what took him so long?

and after 45 years of denigrating them and himself saying he would be a hypocrite if he DID!

[SmittynMo]

17. Big difference

Bernie offers free tuition. Clinton offers relief(IE: lower interest rates on student loans). Which/who would you choose? Nevermind. Your view is screw the students.

Love, as always.
Smitty

[VanillaRhapsody]

18. I agree with Clinton...if we provided it free...

poor and middle class will be edged out! And what do you do with foreign students?

[SmittynMo]

25. Poor and middle class?

Students will have to qualify to get free tuition. IE: Good grades.

And the poor and middle class will be edged out? They already are.

Why are you arguing? You clearly stand with "Screw the students" if you support Hillary.

Good luck in getting the millennial vote.

[VanillaRhapsody]

31. Yes....edged out....

Rich people are the stingiest ever....not means testing it...means they WILL edge your kid out as they have access to tutors and other tools to ensure it!

[leftofcool]

57. Yep, rich kids take up all the places so no one else can get in.

I guess some of these people think that there are just thousands and thousands of college classroom spaces.

[VanillaRhapsody]

59. they are trying to call me xenophobic because I stated the obvious FACT

that many students in our colleges are from foreign countries...

[stone space]

29. Educate them.

And what do you do with foreign students?

What do we do with foreign students in grade school and high school?

[VanillaRhapsody]

32. So rich people from foreign countries also fill up the colleges? They send their kids here to go TO

our colleges.....I am talking about those foreign students that our current colleges are LOADED with...

[stone space]

45. Not interested in the bashing of foreigners.

That's a real turnoff for me.

[VanillaRhapsody]

54. I am not bashing them...they DO send their kids here to college...that is an undeniable FACT!

[stone space]

60. How would you have been harmed had my wife been allowed a college education?

I really don't understand.

You seem to want to pit people against each other, citizens against immigrants, as if education is a zero sum game.

It isn't.

Money for education is being spent on weapons systems and militarism instead of education.

Trillions for war, and pennies for education.

And we're all expected to fight with each other over who gets which pennies.

[VanillaRhapsody]

63. I am not talking about IMMIGRANTS!

Many many people from other countries...WEALTHY people...send their kids to the United States...

[ashling]

46. STOP IT !!!

The fly swatter, I mean. The friggin fly is dead, already !

[VanillaRhapsody]

55. Nope!

When all the flies go away....I will remove it.

[ashling]

80. Thanks for protecting us from the zombie flies

[Lordquinton]

53. So Hillary's plan is based on xenophobia?

Where's your data that our colleges are "LOADED" with foreign students? Can you provide a contrast with the national low enrollment?

Why are promoting a future of debt for our nation's youth?

[VanillaRhapsody]

56. No...that is NOT what I said...

its about the FACT that MANY countries DO send their kids to the United States for college. Did you think they built their own?

[Lordquinton]

86. That's exactly what you're saying

"Foreigners are taking our education" is no different from "forienera are taking our jobs"

There are also several other questions in my post that you are conveniently ignoring. That you are defending the xenophobic point really highlights the thrust of your argument.

[VanillaRhapsody]

87. Xenophobix

Do we let them have our Social Security too? How Xenophobic!


http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2013/11/11/us-sees-record-number-of-international-college-students

[Lordquinton]

91. And now you're laughing at it.

How truly distasteful.

It's actually a point of pride that people come to our country for education.

And you still haven't answered any of the questions I asked.

Here's another: exactly how will making college free be bad for the poor? How will making college free benifit the rich and foreigners? Have you considered that there are more forign students at us schools because us residents can't afford to attend them? Have you considered that we have low enrollment in US schools because of tuition costs and they have been courting forign students so they can just stay open because they have been forced by policies, like the one Hillary proposes, to operate like businesses and treat students like customers instead of focusing on education?

[VanillaRhapsody]

92. Yes I am laughing

Because its absurd.

[Lordquinton]

93. So Hillary's idea is to laugh at students who bring up real concerns?

I asked several real questions here and you laugh. Your talking points don't cover what I said so you just laugh.

You're right, it's absurd, but you're still defending it.

[VanillaRhapsody]

61. I am not talking about ones that live here....

duh...not IMMIGRANT children.

[jeff47]

26. She doesn't offer relief

She offers making it possible to carry more debt.

So a student who can only get saddled with $50,000 in loans now can be saddled with $75,000 loans after her plan. That's gonna TOTALLY rein in tuition!

[VanillaRhapsody]

33. I have not heard Bernie say he wants to include relief for current Student Debt holders...

[jeff47]

34. And I haven't heard Clinton explain how lowering interest rates would actually reduce tuition.

Yet that is the vast majority of her plan.

[VanillaRhapsody]

35. where?

Attending an In-state College Would Be Cheaper

The core of Clinton’s plan would allow students to earn a four-year degree from state colleges and universities without taking out loans to pay for tuition. She’d do that by providing federal grants to states, as long as the states up their investment in higher education. As tuition at public colleges has climbed rapidly in the past several years, state spending per student has fallen by almost a quarter, according the the State Higher Education Executive Officers Association. Families are now responsible for roughly half the cost of college. This federal-state partnership would account for more than half the cost of Clinton’s plan, about $175 billion.


2. But it Wouldn’t Be Free

Unlike suggestions by progressive activists to create a completely free college education, Clinton’s plan would require families to make a “realistic” contribution toward tuition costs. Along with money from personal savings and borrowing, the estimated family contribution would include student earnings from 10 hours of work a week. Also, states wouldn’t be able to use money from Pell Grants in designing their loan-free tuition programs, so the federal grants for low- and middle-income students could still be used to help pay for living costs, such as room and board.

[jeff47]

37. Not familiar with your own candidate's proposals?

Kinda odd. Perhaps you should look into the candidate you are supporting.

She wants to expand grants slightly and lower student loan interest rates. Since the grant expansion is nowhere near sufficient for most students, that means the vast majority get lower interest rates.

But lower interest rates allow a borrower to borrow a larger amount of money.

[VanillaRhapsody]

62. I was asking him about HIS statement...

[jeff47]

65. In reply to a post about her plan. (nt)

[VanillaRhapsody]

66. yes...where does it say THAT...is what I was asking

do try to keep up...

[VanillaRhapsody]

36. and

3. Applying for Aid Would Be Simpler

Calls for simplifying the 108-question Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA) have come from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle and from college access advocates who say the complexity of applying for aid keeps many low-income students from attending college. Clinton, too, backs simplifying the form, though she doesn’t offer any details aside from letting families know earlier if they qualify for Pell Grants.

4. So Would Repaying Loans

Clinton’s plan also calls for streamlining the repayment of loans and creating a Borrower Bill of Rights. Today’s four, income-based repayment programs would be consolidated into a single plan with simple rules. All borrowers could enroll in a program that caps their loan payments at 10% of income and forgives any outstanding debt after 20 years of payments.

5. Current Borrowers Could Refinance at Favorable Rates

Graduates who earn a bachelor’s degree now leave college with just under $30,000 in debt, on average. By allowing most current borrowers to refinance their loans at today’s interest rates (4.29% for undergraduate student loans), Clinton says 25 million students would save an average of $2,000 over the life of their loans.

[jeff47]

39. So when you asked "where?", you were lying. (nt)

[VanillaRhapsody]

40. No I wasn't as that just came from Time

http://time.com/money/3990445/hillary-clinton-college-plan/

[VanillaRhapsody]

38. along with...

6. Future Borrowers Would See Lower Ones

For future borrowers, interest rates would be reduced “significantly,” cutting the profits the federal government makes on student loans, a money source that’s been criticized by some politicians, most notably Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).


7. Colleges Would Be Held to Higher Standards

Clinton wants colleges to be more transparent about student outcomes such as graduation rates, likely earnings, and debt load so families can make better-informed decisions when choosing a school. That argument is similar to one President Obama made in pushing for his ratings plan, which has since been scaled back after repeated criticism from some in higher education.

Clinton’s New College Compact Plan would give additional grants to colleges that further reduce costs, serve a significant minority or low-income population, or invest in student support services that lead to higher graduation rates. (Currently, four in 10 students don’t graduate within six years.)

On the other hand, Clinton would penalize colleges whose graduates aren’t able to repay their loans. Her campaign doesn’t offer specifics on requiring colleges to have “skin in the game,” but Clinton does say she’ll support bipartisan efforts to do so, such as a recently introduced bill that would require colleges to pay back to the government a share of the loans that their graduates aren’t repaying.

[jeff47]

41. And once you take a moment to think about all the implications of #6, you might see the problem. nt

[VanillaRhapsody]

42. No i don't....

but I DO see problems with OUR suddenly making college in this country totally free....

and I am an older person still paying back a student loan that was subsidized by the govt BEFORE it was taken away from Private banks..

[xocet]

52. What problems do you foresee?

Too many newly educated people shunning conservative principles across the board and turning away from the Republican Party?

Too much new quality research done and applied (to making life better for all) by those who have now had a chance to study their chosen fields deeply since they were not required to distract themselves from their coursework by working and going to school simultaneously?

[VanillaRhapsody]

73. space....

[xocet]

97. If that's all it is, that is easily solved. Infrastructure can be expanded and improved.... n/t

[jeff47]

64. Lower interest rates mean you can afford to borrow more money.

If you can afford to pay $200 a month to service a loan, a lower interest rate means you can borrow more money. So instead of a $20,000 loan, you can now afford a $30,000 loan. The lower interest rate reduces the monthly payment, but that means you can borrow more money while still paying $200/mo.

As a result, lowering interest rates on student loans provides pressure for tuition to go up. Because students can afford to take out larger loans.

and I am an older person still paying back a student loan that was subsidized by the govt BEFORE it was taken away from Private banks..

Congrats. Mine wasn't subsidized.

As for the terrible problems of "free" tuition, the Boomers don't seem to have been destroyed by it.

[VanillaRhapsody]

68. HUH???

As for the terrible problems of "free" tuition, the Boomers don't seem to have been destroyed by it.

what does that even mean?

[jeff47]

70. Believe it or not, there's this thing called history.

And back when Boomers were "college-aged", many public universities were free or extremely cheap for in-state students. For example, any Californian could go to UC or Cal State universities for zero tuition. They had to pay about $200 in books and fees.

However, you were claiming free school would cause problems:

but I DO see problems with OUR suddenly making college in this country totally free....

How did the Boomers manage to avoid these problems caused by the horrors of free education?

[VanillaRhapsody]

71. Please prove!

by the way...I am on the tail end of the Boomers...and money was why I didn't go to college right out of high school. So no..it was NOT free...that is hogwash.

[jeff47]

74. Not hogwash at all.

http://www.dailycal.org/2014/12/22/history-uc-tuition-since-1868/

UC and Cal State were zero tuition for in-state students until 1975. As I mentioned, there were fees charged, but those fees are nowhere near the tuition charged to my generation or millennials.

Again, what are these terrible problems that will be caused by free tuition?

[VanillaRhapsody]

75. YES hogwash...

UC and Cal State were not available for ALL Boomers as you suggested...and that is why it is hogwash

Even Technical Colleges were not free.

[jeff47]

76. Because one example was the entirety of the world at that time.

What are the terrible problems that will be caused by making tuition free?

[VanillaRhapsody]

77. bullshit....

space....I don't want to compete for college with someone who has the ability to hire tutors. Let them pay for their own damn college...


and if their kids do not qualify for Ivy League....guess where they go? Why should my tax dollars pay for THAT....hell they don't even pay into the Social Security system....

[xocet]

99. Your position denies the needs of many, because of a few who might potentially game the system....

Isn't that equivalent to how the Republican argument against pretty much everything goes??

Remember that infrastructure can be improved and expanded. Why sell the country short with a bad education policy?

[VanillaRhapsody]

104. No...not the few...sorry...

do you know how many rich folks in the world send their kids here to go to our universities? Its a damn high number...are you also going to call for the end of that?

Read and be informed...

http://www.brookings.edu/research/interactives/2014/geography-of-foreign-students#/M10420

[xocet]

105. Sorry...When compared to the total number of college students in the US, it is relatively few....

Read and be informed sounds like a good policy for everyone - thanks for the link to the Brookings Report:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 2014
College Enrollment Declines for Second Year in a Row, Census Bureau Reports
September 24, 2014
Release Number: CB14-177

College enrollment declined by close to half a million (463,000) between 2012 and 2013, marking the second year in a row that a drop of this magnitude has occurred. The cumulative two-year drop of 930,000 was larger than any college enrollment drop before the recent recession, according to U.S. Census Bureau statistics from the Current Population Survey released today. The Census Bureau began collecting data on college enrollment in this survey in 1966.

As the nation’s students and teachers return to the classroom, the Census Bureau has published School Enrollment in the United States: 2013, detailing national-level statistics on the characteristics of students, from nursery school to graduate school. The data were collected in the October School Enrollment Supplement to the 2013 Current Population Survey.

“The drop-off in total college enrollment the last two years follows a period of expansion: between 2006 and 2011, college enrollment grew by 3.2 million,” said Kurt Bauman, chief of the Census Bureau’s Education and Social Stratification Branch. “This level of growth exceeded the total enrollment increase of the previous 10 years combined (2.0 million from 1996 to 2006).”

...

College

• In 2013, there were 19.5 million college students, including 5.3 million in two-year colleges, 10.5 million in four-year colleges and 3.7 million in graduate school.
  
• At the college level, 58.2 percent of students were non-Hispanic white. Hispanics comprised 16.5 percent, blacks 14.7 percent and Asians 8.1 percent.

http://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2014/cb14-177.html

[VanillaRhapsody]

106. You might want to check that rate of growth..

grew dramatically from 110,000 in 2001 to 524,000 in 2012.

and...

Foreign students are concentrated in U.S. metropolitan areas. From 2008 to 2012, 85 percent of foreign students pursuing a bachelor’s degree or above attended colleges and universities in 118 metro areas that collectively accounted for 73 percent of U.S. higher education students.

[LanternWaste]

5. Vote. Democratic.

Vote. Democratic. (as everything else is simply bias, dogma, and tired proselytizing)

[LiberalElite]

101. Vote. Sanders.

Hillary will tell them what they want to hear and then do nothing.

[RobinA]

3. Free Education

seems a bit much. Reasonably priced education would suit me. I think we need to solve medical care before the taxpayer is providing higher education on this broad a scale.

[Hugin]

11. The two things are inextricably linked.

In order to have lots of well trained medical professionals, there needs to be the incentive of not having a monumental student debt hanging over their heads when they graduate.

[Heeeeers Johnny]

24. Make "free tuition" contingent on fulfilling x number of years in public service.

I'd also like to see a system of tuition coverage that encourages students to choose majors and future
occupations that are actually beneficial to themselves and society, rather than majors that serve
little to no benefit to anyone.

If taxpayer money is going to used to invest in the future of these kids, it should be invested wisely.

[jeff47]

30. You and Rubio

Damn useless philosophy majors!!

[xocet]

58. Someone should let Rubio know that "Je vote, donc je suis." n/t

[christx30]

69. I'll be happy to pay a little extra

in taxes for a person to get something useful. Once you graduate, you should have a shot at paying back the investment that the taxpayers put into you. If you want something for the love of learning, pay for it yourself. I'll pay for your electrical engineering degree. You'll pay for your Inca tribal dancing degree.

[jeff47]

72. See, the reason Rubio took a lot of shit for that position

is that those philosophy majors went on to make more money than the welders he was claiming are useful.

[christx30]

78. I can kind of see where he's coming from.

He was looking at Philosophy as the end point. I mean, in our world, someone like Socrates, trying to make a living thinking about the nature of humanity would be homeless.
Rubio isn't considering parlaying the philosophy major into something else like law, where there is high demand. But again, it has to be a useful skill that in someway helps other humans.

[jeff47]

79. And so far we have your made-up dancing major as one that doesn't.

Perhaps that indicates this is not actually a problem in the real world.

[christx30]

81. There are a few.

What kind of a job can you get with an Art History degree? Or Religious Studies? Drama?

A 30 second google search found lots of lists of outrageous college courses that are being offered around the country.

http://socawlege.com/the-15-most-ridiculous-college-courses-you-wont-believe-are-being-taught/
"What if Harry Potter is real?"
"The Joy of Garbage"

http://www.onlineuniversities.com/blog/2009/10/100-hilarious-college-courses-that-really-exist/

Should the American taxpayer be expected to pay for someone that wants to study family and social roles of characters on daytime soaps? (Number 21)

Again, take something useful, so we can get the tax money investment back. You want to study "Introduction to Turntabling" (number 53), you're on your own.

[jeff47]

82. Each of those frequently lead to careers that pay WAY above median wage.

That would kinda indicate they're useful, no?

[christx30]

84. If you're able to become a world famous

DJ like Skrillex or Deadmau5, the more power to you. If you think knowing the roles of members of Victor's family on One Live can get you a great job in the future, it's a huge gamble that I wouldn't be willing to take. It's a $20 or 30,000 bet "Arguing with Judge Judy" is going to net you a $50,000/yr career.

[jeff47]

85. Well, I know someone who's using her MD and Drama BA to train doctors

to better communicate with her patients.

I also know out-of-work people with Computer Science degrees.

Again, the measure is not what you can imagine comes from the degree. The measure is what actually comes from the degree. The statistics show getting any college degree helps greatly.

[passiveporcupine]

94. Who gets to decide what is beneficial?

You?

Is an art major beneficial? A music major? A psych major? An English or Lit major? A special studies major (like black studies or women's studies)? A history major? A poli science major? A sports major (yeah, I know, a PE teacher maybe?)...but many kids go to college to play sports and some of them end up in the big leagues, or even qualifying for the olympics. Does that count?

Are any liberal arts beneficial, or does everyone need to go to college to learn how to be a plumber, an electrician, an accountant, a business major, a scientist or doctor, or teacher?

What kind of world to you want to live in?

[RobinA]

108. Public Service

is something I totally support. Actually, I support national service FOR EVERYBODY post-school. Government can train people, get some work done in return. Hell, you used to be able to go to medical school on the government. Training and then experience would be available to everyone. People would step into the working world with training and experience on their resume. It would give the no prospect kids an opportunity other than military, although military could still be an option if you absolutely HAVE to go shoot people in foreign lands. Crappy high school educations could be, at least in part, mitigated by the subsequent training.

[hibbing]

13. Nothing is free

I like the idea, but just like healthcare and health insurance, nothing is "free".

Peace

[7962]

15. If only everyone understood what you so simply state!

In the coming weeks, we'll see them marching for "free" EVERYTHING. We're on a dangerous downhill slide if this keeps up.

[B2G]

20. Thank you

You know who always ends up paying for 'free' stuff and never benefits from it?

The middle class.

[Oneironaut]

22. I think free education pays for itself a million times over.

We wouldn't be sending people to Harvard, but Community Colleges. Compare that to the cost of supporting someone with welfare and food stamps for the rest of their life. Also, think of the new tax revenue it could generate.

This, imo, is an absolute no-brainier. We need more education in this society if we're going to compete with the rest of the world. Getting a college education is no longer optional.

[romanic]

49. Agreed.

But it's not just the cost of education that needs to be addressed. We still need to stop the outsourcing of jobs and stop the rising costs of living all across the country.

But yeah tuition-free education would really level off the dependence on welfare services.

[jeff47]

27. It was free for the Boomers. But the kids can't have it. (nt)

[llmart]

95. What are you even talking about?

I'm a Boomer and don't remember my college tuition being free. Where on earth did you get that idea?

[jeff47]

103. Several states had free in-state tuition

back when Boomers were college-age.

Here's CA's: http://www.dailycal.org/2014/12/22/history-uc-tuition-since-1868/

Short version:
There was no tuition for UC or Cal State universities until 1975. There were "fees", but they were pretty small - as in easy to cover with a random summer job.

[Le Taz Hot]

44. My Community College education was completely tuition-free

and my state college tuition was low enough that I could afford to work my way through. That was when the state was subsidizing higher education. But then the corporatists got into office (both Democrat and Republicans) and that was the end of affordable education. My point is, we've done it before, we can sure as hell do it again.

[LiberalElite]

102. We had it in NYC till the 1970s -

College was tuition-free in CUNY. I don't know why it changed.

[Baitball Blogger]

7. IF THEY CAN ONLY RESCHEDULE THAT MARCH DAY FOR AN ELECTION DAY.

(I had no idea I had my caption key on when I wrote that. But, hey, I think I'll leave it.)

[Doctor_J]

8. These people will come out next year to vote for Sanders

If our candidate is Hillary, the party may well have to do without their votes.

[Fuddnik]

47. Hillary will jump on board and claim she supported it all along, in about 2 weeks.

[EndElectoral]

9. Networks may give it 10 seconds of coverage.

[karynnj]

12. Doesn't matter if thousands of kids are involved -- it energizes them!

[Heeeeers Johnny]

23. They'll be energized or excited up until the time of the next iPhone release

[karynnj]

28. Now if that is not just typical - I remember that people in Indianapolis mocked IU students protesti

the Vietnam war in the same way.

[EndElectoral]

43. Or energized until they don't vote in the next election.

[Hugin]

10. I wish them luck and progress.

Take charge!

[SmittynMo]

19. 15 an hour, free college tuition?

I wonder who they are going to vote for. Gee, there's only 1 that supports this.

[Fuddnik]

48. So far........

[yurbud]

21. I wish I heard about this soon enough to tell my students to join in

[think]

50. There's something happening here

[willvotesdem]

51. I read once that Harvard could give free tuition to all their students forever and never

deplete their endowment.

[jonno99]

67. If you think a a college education is expensive now - wait until it is "free".

- iow - there is no free lunch
- you get what you pay for
- beware the law of unintended consequences...

/cliches

[n2doc]

88. Yeah because Higher ed is so expensive in Germany and Europe.

True, there ain't no free lunch. The lunch is being eaten by the Military-industrial complex. The rest get crumbs.

It is all a matter of priorities. Where are yours?

[jonno99]

89. Why is tuition so expensive in the US - and so much cheaper in Europe? nt

[n2doc]

90. Because the federal governments support higher ed there

We used to do the same, and that is why it was so much cheaper back 20-30 years ago. But the states, in particular, found that they could cut support to their universities without serious blowback. And they Did. And as they did so, Universities raised tuition as much as they were allowed to do, and fees raised when restrictions were made on tuition hikes. Private Universities were free to raise their tuition as well as the competition decreased.

There have been other factors like massive increases in administrative staff in most places, and a desire to take advantage of easy student loans, but if you look at the places where people used to obtain inexpensive quality educations, the state schools, it all comes down to a loss of state support. U. of Virginia receives almost no state funding.

http://www.acenet.edu/the-presidency/columns-and-features/Pages/state-funding-a-race-to-the-bottom.aspx
State appropriations for public higher education have just faced another tough year. And yet, public institutions have faced many such years over the past three decades. Despite steadily growing student demand for higher education since the mid-1970s, state fiscal investment in higher education has been in retreat in the states since about 1980.

In fact, it is headed for zero.

Based on the trends since 1980, average state fiscal support for higher education will reach zero by 2059, although it could happen much sooner in some states and later in others. Public higher education is gradually being privatized.

[llmart]

96. "massive increases in administrative staff"

The number of useless administrative people at the top and the amounts they get paid for doing nothing but schmoozing other administrative people is ludicrous and I know whereof I speak. Publicly funded universities are using corporate hacks at the top also to bring corporatization to higher ed.

[n2doc]

98. Agree totally n/t

[a la izquierda]

107. I have a PhD from a US school.

I wish I'd done my education in Europe. I'd not be six figures in debt with a bullshit system of bureaucracy when trying to get answers

[Gidney N Cloyd]

83. Nothing on our campus.