Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:39 PM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
Fox News Poll: Trump, Sanders lead respective primaries in New Hampshire
Source: Fox News
Bernie Sanders.....45% Hillary Clinton......44% Martin O’Malley......5% Donald Trump.......27% Marco Rubio.........13% Ted Cruz..............11% Jeb Bush...............9% Ben Carson...........9% John Kasich...........7% Chris Christie.........6% Carly Fiorina..........3% Rand Paul..............3% Lindsey Graham......1% Mike Huckabee.......1% Rick Santorum........1% Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2015/11/18/fox-news-poll-trump-sanders-lead-respective-primaries-in-new-hampshire/ For those who would prefer The Hill's report on the same polling conducted by Anderson Robbins Research (a Democratic pollster) and Shaw & Company Research (a Republican pollster), here's a link: Sanders ahead of Clinton in New Hampshire poll Also, this polling is reported by, and included within aggregate polling of, Huffington Post's pollster as well as Real Clear Politics so you can go there to get your polling if you prefer.
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Attorney in Texas | Nov 2015 | OP |
leftofcool | Nov 2015 | #1 | |
liberal N proud | Nov 2015 | #2 | |
ThePhilosopher04 | Nov 2015 | #3 | |
liberal N proud | Nov 2015 | #4 | |
Attorney in Texas | Nov 2015 | #5 | |
liberal N proud | Nov 2015 | #6 | |
Attorney in Texas | Nov 2015 | #12 | |
liberal N proud | Nov 2015 | #14 | |
Attorney in Texas | Nov 2015 | #15 | |
liberal N proud | Nov 2015 | #17 | |
Attorney in Texas | Nov 2015 | #20 | |
liberal N proud | Nov 2015 | #21 | |
Attorney in Texas | Nov 2015 | #23 | |
liberal N proud | Nov 2015 | #22 | |
Attorney in Texas | Nov 2015 | #26 | |
liberal N proud | Nov 2015 | #27 | |
Attorney in Texas | Nov 2015 | #30 | |
Sunlei | Nov 2015 | #40 | |
LiberalArkie | Nov 2015 | #8 | |
DFW | Nov 2015 | #7 | |
liberal N proud | Nov 2015 | #10 | |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody | Nov 2015 | #9 | |
restorefreedom | Nov 2015 | #11 | |
Ferd Berfel | Nov 2015 | #13 | |
RandySF | Nov 2015 | #16 | |
liberal N proud | Nov 2015 | #18 | |
RandySF | Nov 2015 | #19 | |
Art_from_Ark | Nov 2015 | #41 | |
jeff47 | Nov 2015 | #34 | |
davidpdx | Nov 2015 | #37 | |
Gregorian | Nov 2015 | #24 | |
George II | Nov 2015 | #25 | |
Attorney in Texas | Nov 2015 | #28 | |
Laser102 | Nov 2015 | #29 | |
DemocratSinceBirth | Nov 2015 | #31 | |
Attorney in Texas | Nov 2015 | #32 | |
DemocratSinceBirth | Nov 2015 | #33 | |
PoliticalMalcontent | Nov 2015 | #35 | |
PoliticalMalcontent | Nov 2015 | #36 | |
Attorney in Texas | Nov 2015 | #38 | |
Sunlei | Nov 2015 | #39 |
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:41 PM
leftofcool (19,460 posts)
1. LOL Fox News.
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:42 PM
liberal N proud (59,202 posts)
2. Since when did FOX News qualify as a valid source of substance on DU?
I guess if FOX says it it is right.
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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #2)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:43 PM
ThePhilosopher04 (1,732 posts)
3. True. Bernie's lead is bigger.
Response to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #3)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:44 PM
liberal N proud (59,202 posts)
4. So this thread is all humor
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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #2)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:46 PM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
5. It's a Fox News poll. Presumably, Fox News is where you would turn for a Fox News poll you can get
this poll off of Real Clear Politics or Huffington Post's Pollster if you'd rather. I went to the source.
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Response to Attorney in Texas (Reply #5)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:54 PM
liberal N proud (59,202 posts)
6. It's FOX
Nothing FOX says, writes or posts can be trusted as truth.
If this is considered as a valid source on DU it would be an indicator to a possible reason there has been so much vitriol o this site in the last several months. |
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #6)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:06 PM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
12. Fox commissions the poll. It is done by Anderson Robbins Research (a Democratic pollster) with Shaw
& Company Research (a Republican pollster). They get an above average rating for accuracy and reliability from 538.
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Response to Attorney in Texas (Reply #12)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:08 PM
liberal N proud (59,202 posts)
14. Find another source
Stop defending FOX
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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #14)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:21 PM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
15. Do you know how polling works? The sponsor of the poll does not conduct the poll. When CBS sponsors
a poll, Opinion Research Corp. does the poll.
This is a Democratic pollster and a Republican pollster with good accuracy ratings. This is not reporting or editorializing. This is reported by, and included within aggregate polling by Huffington Post's pollster as well as Real Clear Politics. |
Response to Attorney in Texas (Reply #15)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:23 PM
liberal N proud (59,202 posts)
17. I don't care, we don't source FOX.
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #17)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:30 PM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
20. Except for when reporting Fox News polling as shown here, here, here, etc:
Response to Attorney in Texas (Reply #20)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:36 PM
liberal N proud (59,202 posts)
21. I would have made the same protest had I seen them.
The fact that the stand demonstrates how diluted the membership here has become.
Find a reputable source for your information and I would recommend avoiding FOX because of their propensity for propaganda. |
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #21)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:42 PM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
23. I gave you the Huffington Post Pollster link. Use that if you prefer. Here is a link to The Hill
Response to Attorney in Texas (Reply #20)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:39 PM
liberal N proud (59,202 posts)
22. Looking at those threads, only one didn't get called out for sourcing from FOX.
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #22)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:45 PM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
26. The Hill reports on the same poll, but the source above is just the Anderson Robbins Research/Shaw &
Response to Attorney in Texas (Reply #26)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:48 PM
liberal N proud (59,202 posts)
27. But you chose to cite and lino to FOX.
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #27)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:55 PM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
30. This is breaking news, no? The link above was breaking news and The Hill reported the story AFTER
the OP was started.
I neither watch nor trust Fox News. However, if you want breaking news of a Fox News sponsored poll (conducted with a Democratic pollster -- and it is live phone poll and not a questionable internet poll or automated phone poll) in a battleground/first primary state, that news is going to break on Fox. |
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #6)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:17 AM
Sunlei (22,651 posts)
40. fox an arm of the republican party. In foxes round about way- they are 'always' anti-Clinton 100%
count on that.
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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #2)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:01 PM
LiberalArkie (14,644 posts)
8. It is a FoxNoiz poll and they like OUR candidates better than THEIRS.. That is fantastic.
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:59 PM
DFW (47,705 posts)
7. If Fox Noise reported that I had inherited a million dollars tax free
I would assume that my house had been repossessed.
Using Fox as a source for anything is like using a fracking company's report on how safe drinking water is where they drill. I'm not saying the figures are necessarily inaccurate, just that the source has a track record of being less than truthful at times (we purport, you deride).... |
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:04 PM
ProudToBeBlueInRhody (16,399 posts)
9. I'm not surprised
Conservatives "love" what Bernie is saying.
Uh huh. |
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:05 PM
restorefreedom (12,655 posts)
11. trump has been pretty consistently at the top in almost every poll
so if his numbers are correct, why would the dem ones be wrong?
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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:07 PM
Ferd Berfel (3,687 posts)
13. Sorry, As much as I like to hear this.........
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Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:21 PM
RandySF (39,310 posts)
16. We're quoting Fox now?
Response to RandySF (Reply #16)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:24 PM
liberal N proud (59,202 posts)
18. This never would have happened before.
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #18)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:27 PM
RandySF (39,310 posts)
19. DU is unhinged
Response to RandySF (Reply #19)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:19 AM
Art_from_Ark (27,247 posts)
41. Speaking of unhinged
Have you read some of the things that DU's own resident FOX Noise commentator has posted here, to the applause of Hillary supporters (this year, that is, not back in 2008)?
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Response to RandySF (Reply #16)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 09:50 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
34. Now?
Response to jeff47 (Reply #34)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:19 AM
davidpdx (22,000 posts)
37. The idiots have no idea what irony means
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:43 PM
Gregorian (23,867 posts)
24. Sample was from customers at some hot dog stand.
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:45 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
25. Sunday's Gravis Poll: Clinton 46, Sanders 25, O'Malley 3 - Clinton +21
Response to George II (Reply #25)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:48 PM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
28. Gravis was the last poll before Clinton's 9/11-Wall St. gaffe, and this is the first post-gaffe poll
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:51 PM
Laser102 (816 posts)
29. Fox? Seriously?
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 09:04 PM
DemocratSinceBirth (97,797 posts)
31. Please read this thread to see how I was roasted for citing a Gravis Poll
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #31)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 09:13 PM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
32. But with Gravis, the polling company itself has been appropriately questioned. Here Anderson Robbins
Research/Shaw & Company Research is a well respected bi-partisan polling team using live phone polling (including both landlines and cell phones), which is the A+ methodology.
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Response to Attorney in Texas (Reply #32)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 09:22 PM
DemocratSinceBirth (97,797 posts)
33. I am not going to get in a debate about the efficacy of polling.
If FOX isn't verboten here then neither should Gravis, the latter of which is not an auxiliary of the Republican party. It wasn't Gravis' methodology, flawed or not, that some believe makes it verboten. It was their alleged bias.
The fact that Anderson Robbins has a (D) after their name is of no moment. Hell, Judas Iscariot held himself out as a disciple of Christ. |
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:00 AM
PoliticalMalcontent (449 posts)
35. The people saying it's a compromised poll because it was commissioned by Fox News...
C'mon people. Be honest with yourselves. Yes, Fox News sucks. It's a terrible place with opinionated assholes who tend to report their news with a clear bias. That doesn't make all news tainted. If they reported that the sky was blue would you disagree with on principle alone? That's the kind of thinking that helps nobody. Let's not cut off our nose to spite our face.
The data was obtained from an unbiased secondary source. Fox can spin the polls all they want, but if we have access to the raw numbers we can view them without the Fox News' bias. That's the important thing. In the end most all of the poll results fall within the margin of error (MoE), including the Hillary Vs Sanders question. I found the individual match-up results of Hillary Vs Republican Candidates to be interesting though. She "beats": Trump, Cruz and Christie (Only Trump being outside of the MoE). She "loses" to: Carson, Bush, Kasish, Rubio (With only Rubio outside of the MoE). She's tied with Fiorina in this limited poll. Frankly, that matches up with my gut feeling that Rubio would be the hardest candidate in a general. Again, small sample-size caveats abound! Oddly, they didn't do heads-up polling of Sanders Vs Republican Candidates which could mean any number of things. Perhaps they just want a feel of how badly they've damaged Hillary's reputation, or to see which Republican candidate to cover most favorably in the future. Who knows. That's where your Fox News spin machine comes into play. |
Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #35)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:11 AM
PoliticalMalcontent (449 posts)
36. Additional Thoughts:
If Rubio truly is Hillary's toughest match-up it's going to be interesting to see the results of the Republican Primaries. He's coming in 2nd in this NH poll, but you'd have to imagine the closer we get to Primary Season the more people will realize "Holy shit, we could be sending Donald Trump into the General Election!" and sober up. Trump has such a high unfavorability rating.
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Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #35)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:49 AM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
38. Exactly. Criticizing a ARR/S&C poll just because of its link to Fox is like hating the Simpsons just
because it airs on the Fox network.
Anderson Robbins Research/Shaw & Company is a bi-partisan polling team with a demonstrated record of reliability and accuracy confirmed by 538 and the poll was done using the most reliable methodology of live cellphone/landline live phone polling. Hate Fox News, but don't let hatred cloud your judgment. |
Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:15 AM
Sunlei (22,651 posts)
39. If Trump 'quits' who will he back along with the 27%?
If Trump doesn't quit, he will win the republican primary. Will he take Rubio, Cruz or Bush as VP? I guess Rubio as he has less hateful baggage.
I don't think Trump 'likes' Fiorina enough to be stuck with a woman as VP for years. He wouldn't be able to 'fire' her, if he has a bad day. Of course none of them would ever make it inside the White House. |