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Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:25 PM

Anti-Abortion Groups Condemn Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood Attack

Source: Huffington Post

David Daleiden, the head of the Center for Medical Progress, the group that released controversial and heavily edited videos of Planned Parenthood employees earlier this year, said that he did not support violence against the organization.

“The Center for Medical Progress condemns the barbaric killing spree in Colorado Springs by a violent madman. We applaud the heroic efforts of law enforcement to stop the violence quickly and rescue the victims, and our thoughts and prayers are with the wounded, the lost, and their families," he said in a statement.

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Jim Daly, the president of Focus on the Family, a conservative Christian group in Colorado Springs, said the shooting was "deplorable."

“Today’s violence at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood facility, just miles from our ministry headquarters, is tragic and deplorable. It is to be condemned," he said in a statement. “Our hearts break for the families of the three individuals killed, a University of Colorado police officer and two civilians. As a community, we share in their sorrow and in their grief."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/colorado-springs-attack_565a0758e4b079b2818a8f35



It seems some of them do have a conscience.

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Reply Anti-Abortion Groups Condemn Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood Attack (Original post)
Calista241 Nov 2015 OP
COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #1
potone Nov 2015 #2
COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #3
christx30 Nov 2015 #5
valerief Nov 2015 #20
ericson00 Nov 2015 #4
LanternWaste Nov 2015 #47
sarge43 Nov 2015 #6
SwissTony Nov 2015 #11
yardwork Nov 2015 #37
sarge43 Nov 2015 #39
yardwork Nov 2015 #40
The Blue Traveller Nov 2015 #43
onecaliberal Nov 2015 #7
slumcamper Nov 2015 #17
New Orleans Strong Nov 2015 #29
The Green Manalishi Nov 2015 #34
kestrel91316 Nov 2015 #52
louis-t Nov 2015 #8
eggplant Nov 2015 #9
yardwork Nov 2015 #38
IcyPeas Nov 2015 #10
riversedge Nov 2015 #12
dogman Nov 2015 #13
longship Nov 2015 #14
w0nderer Nov 2015 #15
New Orleans Strong Nov 2015 #16
Demit Nov 2015 #18
JoeyT Nov 2015 #19
Solly Mack Nov 2015 #21
CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #25
Cryptoad Nov 2015 #22
BumRushDaShow Nov 2015 #23
Myrina Nov 2015 #24
Fla Dem Nov 2015 #42
houston16revival Nov 2015 #26
davidpdx Nov 2015 #27
Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #31
davidpdx Nov 2015 #32
rocktivity Nov 2015 #28
tabasco Nov 2015 #30
They_Live Nov 2015 #33
Hekate Nov 2015 #35
tblue37 Nov 2015 #36
Gumboot Nov 2015 #41
sufrommich Nov 2015 #44
Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #45
jmowreader Nov 2015 #46
LanternWaste Nov 2015 #48
Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #49
Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #50
kestrel91316 Nov 2015 #51
Laffy Kat Nov 2015 #53

Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:26 PM

1. Too little, too late.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:33 PM

2. Yes, indeed.

The poster is too kind; they are in CYA mode so that they won't be accused of what they in fact have done: incited violence against PP and their patients. I will take this expression of sorrow seriously when they stop harassing the staff and patients, stop demonizing PP doctors as baby-killers, and stop treating women as second-class citizens whose rights, privacy, safety and dignity do not count. Until then, I don't want to hear about their crocodile tears. Basta!

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Response to potone (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:34 PM

3. Exactly right. A weak-assed attempt to CYA. Nothing more.

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Response to potone (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:41 PM

5. Weak minded individuals hear

'Baby killer' and they think the babies need to be protected. Next thing you know, guys like Dr. Tiller get murdered in their church.

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Response to potone (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:45 PM

20. ^^^THIS^^^

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:37 PM

4. gotta give them a small amount of credit:

 

at least they haven't apologized for it, as some people try to apologize for Islamic terrorism.

And I wrote that to pre-empt people trying to put these two problems on the same global problem plane.

Now that I preempted that, the anti-choice groups do need to apologize for the lies about PP and the video.

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Response to ericson00 (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 02:53 PM

47. Who, specifically?

"as some people try to apologize for Islamic terrorism."

Who, specifically?

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:45 PM

6. Conscience? Not bloody likely

They just don't want to be caught up in the shit storm they helped create.

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Response to sarge43 (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:08 PM

11. Exactly. They helped create this shitstorm

and now they want to be regarded as innocent.

Complete and utter arseholes.

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Response to sarge43 (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:58 AM

37. I think they fear being connected for good reason. Why that particular Planned Parenthood?

Killer living in North Carolina just happens to move to Colorado Springs, where these hate organizations are located? I have a feeling there's more to this.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #37)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 09:24 AM

39. Good point

If you're right and it is too early to confirm, fairly typical. Get a depressed angry failure to do your dirty work, then throw him to the wolves and "we know nothing".

PP is one of the few fire walls left that protects women. Destroy that and it's one step closer to controlling women. Control women and you control society.

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Response to sarge43 (Reply #39)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 09:43 AM

40. I was thinking that he might have been hanging around their organization.

He might have simply showed up, drawn by what he's heard on hate radio and the Internet. theh probably didn't ask him to do anything, just ignored him. I wouldn't be surprised if the office staff have seen him before, though.

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Response to sarge43 (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:28 PM

43. +1

 

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:45 PM

7. Oh bullshit. When you spread lies to these unstable people what do they think is going to happen.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:18 PM

17. ^ THIS ^


Totally spot on.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:44 PM

29. Up is down. Voter fraud is rampant.

Obama is waiting to take your guns!! If you dont like the Supreme Court! Freedom!!! But! Founding Fathers!!! Can I haves my fucking gun? Life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness no longer means dick!!! My gun means everything. I need to open carry at freakin Starbucks dude. Just to prove how powerfull my gun makes me win all the things. Makes me kinda different. And better. And if that sells Newz, so be it. A one off today. Nothing to see here. Just a lone wolf. MSNBC has this-

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Response to New Orleans Strong (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:53 PM

34. but.... Benghazi!

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Response to New Orleans Strong (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 08:23 PM

52. +10000. I think you'll fit right in here at DU.

 

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:50 PM

8. And those consciences are guilty.

So they can just fuck off.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:52 PM

9. "just miles from our ministry headquarters"

Coincidence? I think not.

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Response to eggplant (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:59 AM

38. I agree.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:53 PM

10. just PR bulls*it. covering their asses.

they don't give a shit.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:09 PM

12. These groups helped bring on the violence--now want to be viewed as the good guys. Ha ha

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:15 PM

13. Incite people to violence through lies, then find reaction deplorable.

Some conscience!

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:33 PM

14. They should say that to George Tiller's family.

Where were these assholes then?

And it is very likely that the Orwellian named Center for Medical Progress was partially responsible for this attack. Douches!!

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:36 PM

15. i'll give them a little credit for that

0.10c credit range extended!
no cash withdrawals, 50% interest effective immediately, compounding daily

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:11 PM

16. This idiot takes video...

...edits it so it means the opposite of what actually was said, spreads it out into wingnutistan in order to inflame - no other reason - and condemns that which is, these days, a logical outcome. A candidate for the highest office in this country uses this "opposite of truth" video to lie and go up a few points in the polls. Looking at you, Ms Fiorina! And this is the norm. Think the 2012 "You Didn't Build That" GOP convention.

We are down the rabbit hole.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:24 PM

18. Sure, they can have their cake and eat it too.

 

Incite violence that they hope will terrify abortion providers, then act all sorrowful that it happened.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:39 PM

19. No one actually buys what they're selling.

When you dehumanize people with a wink-wink-nudge-nudge that no one should use violence, because that would be wroooonnnnnnng you're just as responsible as the guy that finally takes your hint and shoots up/bombs a place.

If this guy was a dark skinned Muslim, no one would take seriously for a second the argument that the cleric that told him westerners are monsters that must be stopped was totally in the clear. Yet the same claim gets trotted out every time someone slaughters their way through/bombs an abortion clinic or shoots a doctor.

They don't have a conscience. They just don't want their cause to be linked with violent extremists any further than it already is.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:49 PM

21. Poppycock.

Fuck those people.

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:32 PM

25. x a gazillion

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 07:23 PM

22. Wink , Wink, nod, nod

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:00 PM

23. They only did this because a cop was killed

and 5 other cops were injured ("good guys with guns" ). Otherwise it would have been *crickets*.

I just read that the cop who was killed was an ice dancer who had competed in various championships in the '90s with hopes of going to the Olympics back then.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:12 PM

24. " .... so please,don't sue us in civil court ... "

It's all damage control. Nothing else.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:32 PM

42. +1000.Covering their asses. Their heinous rhetoric and actions have consequences.

They've lawyered up and the lawyers told them what to say.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:57 PM

26. Several factors have drawn this line in the sand

and to extremists seek to draw progressives and liberals into this conflict,
among them the distorted video and Congressional investigations into PP

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:26 PM

27. I give them none

It is the anti-choice groups that incite people to target PP. One of my teachers was a PP escort and was shot and killed many years ago. She was a kind, beautiful person. I hate them and everything they stand for and that will never change.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:47 PM

31. I'm so sorry to hear about your teacher.

I was a PP escort in the mid 70's but, luckily, the local police made the anti-choice bigots stay across the street because they had started to get aggressive. My favorite was escorting a VERY pregnant young lady who was merely going in for a pre-natal exam and the religious nuts screaming, "Don't kill your baby!"

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:51 PM

32. I couldn't be an escort, I don't have the wherewithal to not shout back at them

I applaud the fact that you did that. They are vicious people with no lives of their own.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:37 PM

28. Translation: "There's reason to believe that we radicalized the terrorist

-- oops, we mean the lone wolf madman -- which means there's reason to believe that we could be held liable civilly if not criminally."


rocktivity

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:45 PM

30. Wink wink,

 

nod nod.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:30 PM

33. yeah right.

they can go fuck themselves.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:46 AM

35. Too little too late you accessories to murder

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:11 AM

36. No, they do NOT. This is CYA, nothing more. nt

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:06 AM

41. Here, in the most vicious, right-wing town in America.

Remember the bombing of the NAACP office back in January? Yep, that was here too.

This is also the home of the Colorado Springs Gazette. The nastiest, most hate-filled 'newspaper' in America. Now owned by billionaire Phil Anschutz - AKA the third Koch brother. Many editorials kindly provided by AFP.

All those business jets coming & going every day are carrying the leaders of right wing and religionist groups. Endless meetings and team talks to get them all 'on message'.

Oh yeah, and Michelle Malkin lives in Cedar Heights, to the west of the city. I kid you not.

Wish I could afford to move somewhere civilised. This place wears me out.


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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:34 PM

44. Fuck them. They're "sorry" every time this happens.

In a month they'll be repeating their dangerous vitriol that gets abortion providers killed as if this never happened.Fuck them.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:40 PM

45. I have to say I'm a little surprised at many of the responses in this thread.

After all, when many moderate Muslims condemned the ISIS attacks, did DUers respond sneeringly with comments like "poppycock", "CYA", "bullshit", "fuck them", and "wink wink"? Not that I recall.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #45)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:39 PM

46. Moderate Muslims didn't help set up ISIS

David Daleiden made the Planned Parenthood "baby parts" video. The comment the shooter made about "no more baby parts," leads me to believe the shooter has seen it at least once.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #45)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 02:58 PM

48. Focus on the Family is not a moderate group (as per SPLC).

Focus on the Family is not a moderate group (as per SPLC). That said, I applaud your creative, though fundamentally flawed equivalency. Your righteous indignation is almost as creative as the pretense you stand on.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #48)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 03:18 PM

49. So you probably have a link to where a Focus on the Family spokesperson

advocates for the murder of doctors performing abortions?

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #48)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 08:17 PM

50. or perhaps you don't?

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 08:20 PM

51. No, they do not have consciences. They are all lying, shedding crocodile tears.

 

They wanted this result. They, especially Dalieden, worked morning, noon, and night for this exact outcome. Actually they wanted a lot of dead doctors, nurses, and patients.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 08:38 PM

53. Oh pleeeze.

I'm sick of their shit.

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