20-year-old UNT student shot in head

[riversedge]

Source: fox4 news






Posted:Jan 01 2016 09:58AM CST

Updated:Jan 01 2016 10:01AM CST

DENTON, Texas - Police are investigating the shooting of a 20-year-old University of North Texas student.

She was driving a car when a black Lexus SUV pulled up next to her. Words were exchanged and someone in the other vehicle opened fire.

The victim was struck in the head and her car crash.

Witnesses said there were five or six young men in the SUV, which drove off.......................

Read more: http://www.fox4news.com/news/67590902-story

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Too damn many guns available!!

[TeddyR]

1. Too many criminals on the street

Who have no respect for others and a complete disregard for laws and life.

[Hoyt]

8. And too many gunz in circulation because people enamored with the dang things won't allow

restrictions. In fact, even with all this going on, they promote more gunz in more places.

[JonathanRackham]

25. Tons of restrictions in NYC, DC, Chicago

Nobody obeys them. Police and courts won't enforce them.

[Hoyt]

29. And places like Georgia ship thousands of gunz to NY. Need to restrict folks to one or two gunz max

Those gun yahoos that need more than a couple of weapons for hunting and maybe self-defense will just have to seek mental health care if they can't live without the dang things. Semi-autos need to be further restricted. No toting should be allowed and metal detectors and scanners should be everywhere. More later.

[GGJohn]

34. So you want a quasi police state.

Thanks for clarifying that.

[Hoyt]

41. Nope, I want racist gun yahoos off the streets and excess gunz removed from their homes.

I realize there are a small percentage of gunners who might not be racists, but not many. Anyone with more than a gun or two for hunting and maybe home defense, is a blight on society.

What would be nice is if those who have become addicted to gunz, voluntarily gave most of them up for the good of society. I know there is little chance of that because gunners have to be a callous people to stock up and train with gunz to kill people.

[GGJohn]

44. You couldn't be more wrong, as usual,

but I'll give you a chance to prove your claim that most firearm owners are racist, show us the proof, with links.

[nomorenomore08]

32. Part of the problem is, just about anybody can get a gun (legally or quasi-legally) in the next

county or state over. I'm not saying ban guns, which would be impossible to enforce anyway. But there has to be a way to better filter out the folks who shouldn't - due to serious mental-health issues - or can't - due to felony convictions - have guns. Universally enforced background checks, in every state and county, seems like the least we could do. And most polls show overwhelming public support for such a measure.

[trillion]

55. Wrong. Until there are required mental health checks there are no real restrictions.

[pnwmom]

15. Too many people who can get hold of guns and hurt people with them.

You don't know that these people had previously committed any crimes. Maybe the shooter had been open-carrying for years without incident.

Every "criminal" eventually has a first time. Till then, he's not a criminal.

[nomorenomore08]

38. Sure, but there always have been. Violent crime rates are actually down quite a bit

from a generation (give or take) ago. Personally, I don't see a direct causal relationship one way or the other, between gun ownership rates and contemporaneous crime rates. Yes, we have a very high murder rate as First World countries go, but even other countries with high rates of gun ownership (e.g. Canada) seem to have far less gun violence per capita. What doesn't seem entirely coincidental (IMO) is that we have some of the laxest gun laws on Earth, even compared with other heavily armed nations.

[TexasProgresive]

2. That's so very sad, may she rest in peace.

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Edit may she rest peacefully and recover her health. It's still very sad.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. She isn't dead but is in critical condition. Sad either way, though.

[SwissTony]

4. From the OP, she's still alive but in a critical condition.

I hope she makes it.

Very, very sad.

[Feeling the Bern]

5. New Year starts like the old year ends

More Americans killed by guns. . .when will it be time to talk about this shit and deal with it?

And the next NRA motherfucker that tells me a gun is a tool, or ban knives and cars because they kill more than guns or guns don't kill people. . .I swear I will not be responsible for my actions.

[GGJohn]

14. Ok, a firearm is just a tool, it's up to the user how it's used.

And it's a fact that the homicide rate in this country has been halved since the 90's.

[Hoyt]

30. Somebody walking down the street with a tool like an axe, will be stopped for questioning.

Yet, we are supposed to smile as some yahoo with a gun on his hip.

[GGJohn]

31. Not in my town they won't.

Smile, don't smile, I couldn't care less what you do.

[nomorenomore08]

33. At the least, we should restrict folks to concealed carry only.

Open carry is just showing off IMO - not to mention a sign of potential instability.

[GGJohn]

37. I could get behind that,

with the exception of hiking in the back woods/wilderness.

[nomorenomore08]

40. As far as very remote areas go, I guess you're right.

Not much different from carrying a gun for hunting purposes.

[Hoyt]

42. I'm not much on carrying in public under any circumstances. I think it ais a blight on society.

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[GGJohn]

46. I'm not much caring on what you think it is. eom.

[nomorenomore08]

51. Well, just think of it in "lesser evil" terms, if necessary.

Here in CA they prohibit concealed carry in counties of over 200,000 people or something like that. I don't have much of a problem with it - people may not be able to (legally) carry guns around, but they can certainly own and keep them at home, provided they're not a convicted felon or fresh out of some kind of institution.

[Grins]

56. ...by guns?

Homicides by guns, vs. knives, poison, vehicles, fists/beatings, etc? FBI data does not break it down to how a homicide was committed, so...?

"Correlation does not imply causation."

[jalan48]

6. Uncaring thugs with guns.

[RKP5637]

7. "Too damn many guns available!!" Yep, there was a time when words were exchanged and

got the finger. Now, they get the gun. Also, it seems more and more life has little value to many. I hope she recovers OK. I hope they get the asshole(s) that did this.

[Helen Borg]

9. No surveillance videos?

[RKP5637]

10. It's gotten pathetic! One never knows when some outrageous fool is going to

appear and try to kill you for some stupid reason.

[pocoloco]

11. "Witnesses said there were five or six young men in the SUV, which drove off......................."

Denton Police are trying to locate the black Lexus SUV. It was occupied by five or six African American males.

[red dog 1]

12. I hope and pray that she pulls through

Witnesses say that at least two of the men in the black SUV "were at a New Years Eve party on Crisoforo Drive before the incident."
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/UNT-Student-Crashes-Car-After-Being-Shot-Denton-Police-363980961.html

Knowing that, the police should be able to track down the shooter (I would think)

Ironic that the victim was shot only hours after Texas's new "Open Carry Law" went into effect

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

19. I'd bet the shooters didn't know or care about "open carry law"

or any other law for that matter.

[red dog 1]

24. I'd bet you're right about that.

But I still find it ironic that the shooting occurred just a couple of hours after that insane law went into effect.

[nomorenomore08]

43. Still, I don't see any way the new law could be considered a net positive.

People who insist on open carry tend to strike me as wannabe cowboys - or worse, wannabe Charles Bronsons. Concealed carry (which I'm not generally opposed to BTW) isn't good enough for someone who's desperate to look tough or intimidating.

[GGJohn]

13. How about blaming the criminal instead of an inanimate object?

99.9% of privately owned firearm in this country will never be used in either a criminal or negligent manner.

[840high]

22. Yes - but that would mean

personal responsibility. Much easier to blame an object.

[Grins]

57. Meaning .1% will?

Proof please.

.1% is about 270,000 guns; about the same number of guns that are confiscated every year.

[GGJohn]

58. Actually it's 99.9999999999999999999999999999% of firearms will never be used in a

criminal or negligent manner, most reasonable people would get that, but alas.....................

[FailureToCommunicate]

16. Texas law allowing open carry just went into effect. Wonder if that figured in this horrible

drive by killing.

[GGJohn]

17. Why would it?

Very likely the shooter is a prohibited person with a criminal history that forbids him from having a firearm.

[Paladin]

21. What do you suggest we do about it? Anything at all? (nt)

[hack89]

23. How about we crack down on violent crime?

Use a gun to commit a felony and go away for a very long time..

[GGJohn]

26. How about cracking down on criminals?

[hack89]

18. Want to bet it was gang releated

done by shooters that cannot legally own guns?

[mcar]

20. That's where my son wants to get his graduate degree

In a few years. They have a wonderful music program.

[valerief]

27. Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people.

And one thing America has is TOO MANY people with guns.

[rockfordfile]

28. A gun culture

The republican party and the nra are at the root of this problem.

Clearly certain people and guns are both the problem.

[GGJohn]

35. Update.

She passed away.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2016/01/unt-student-shot-in-head-in-suspected-road-rage-incident.html/

[ileus]

36. Always be alert and aware of drivers around you.

Thanks for sharing....

Stories like this remind me of why I upgraded my "car" gun last fall.


I've got to be there for my kids and wife.


RIP young lady.

[nomorenomore08]

45. The fact that you even had to do such a thing is a rather sad commentary, though.

[Skittles]

54. I really hope this is sarcasm

a gun in the car with kids? that is fucked up

[restorefreedom]

39. what the hell?

i heard today obama might go rogue and use executive power to close the gun loophole and a couple of other gun related matters

i hope he goes for it

recovery to the student

[GGJohn]

47. She passed away.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2016/01/unt-student-shot-in-head-in-suspected-road-rage-incident.html/

[restorefreedom]

48. dammit. just dammit. and rip. nt

[nomorenomore08]

49. Terrible story. God help her family, and God damn those stupid, reckless assholes.

P.S. I know the overall murder rate is down from decades ago, but what about impulsive (e.g. road rage) type killings? Any reliable statistics on that sort of thing?

[GGJohn]

50. Not sure if the FBI's UCR details that , I couldn't find it, but that doesn't really mean anything,

I might have missed it.

[nomorenomore08]

52. Always hard to tell if a certain sort of crime is more common, or just more hyped by the media.

Mass shootings have, objectively, been on the rise in recent years, but not by as much as some assume.

[Feeling the Bern]

53. The victim is a childhood friend of one of my fraternity brothers' daughters

She is fit to be tied now.