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drm604

(16,230 posts)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:24 PM Jan 2016

Militants In Oregon Say They'll Leave If Local Community Asks

Last edited Tue Jan 5, 2016, 12:08 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: NPR

Anti-federalist militants continue to hold the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Ore., as law enforcement officials keep their distance. But they say they're willing to leave if local residents ask them to, Oregon Public Broadcasting reports.

Read more: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/04/461950205/gunmen-hold-federal-building-in-oregon-as-convicted-ranchers-seek-pardon



It sounds like they're looking for a graceful way out of this.

Edited to add: I'm starting to wonder about this story. No one else seems to be reporting this, and CNN just showed a video of the local sheriff asking them to leave. So they have their request from the locals and apparently aren't leaving.
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Militants In Oregon Say They'll Leave If Local Community Asks (Original Post) drm604 Jan 2016 OP
My guess is they've found out how they're being mocked. Laurian Jan 2016 #1
Especially seeing their Cult slapped them in the press today n/r FreeState Jan 2016 #17
"Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah. I never should have left Nevada... pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #37
. LiberalElite Jan 2016 #40
That, unfortunately, makes them dangerous. AwakeAtLast Jan 2016 #52
... GGJohn Jan 2016 #2
I thought the community had already told them to get lost. Did they not hear that? Tess49 Jan 2016 #3
My guess is that they did hear that, drm604 Jan 2016 #7
Yep. Totally agree. This is their face saving move underthematrix Jan 2016 #28
Me too sakabatou Jan 2016 #13
"Leave"? You mean surrender and be arrested? uppityperson Jan 2016 #4
I don't mean anything. drm604 Jan 2016 #10
Sorry, I didn't mean you, drm604, but talking to the idiots who will leave uppityperson Jan 2016 #11
I knew that you didn't mean me. I'm not sure why I said that. drm604 Jan 2016 #15
No worries. I'm dealing with a sick cat and a job interview tomorrow uppityperson Jan 2016 #16
I'm wondering if they've made some kind of deal drm604 Jan 2016 #18
I"m wondering if they have embarrassed themselves so badly with this fool move passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #35
Haven't you read the social media? IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 2016 #38
Get about 100 people to set up a nice potluck or pig roast right outside the buiding. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #44
Exactly. n/t progressoid Jan 2016 #23
Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #45
Someone needs to write The Ballad of the Wounded Ego Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #5
They're praying that request gets there quick too! 63splitwindow Jan 2016 #6
Snacks? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #36
So sad! longship Jan 2016 #8
Guess Bernin Jan 2016 #9
I'm wondering how long before there is an outbreak of sodomy Midnight Writer Jan 2016 #25
Portland had terrible weather today. Ice, cold, miserable. So maybe God is freezing them out. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #31
Good time to turn off the bldg's heat. Save a few tax payer dollars. mpcamb Jan 2016 #50
There's satellite TV starroute Jan 2016 #34
And no beer, chicken wings, or pizza ... That'll NEVER do. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #46
They're looking for a way to save face. jalan48 Jan 2016 #12
And their gun rights should be revoked Midnight Writer Jan 2016 #26
If they are convicted of a felony, then they would not be allowed to have guns davidpdx Jan 2016 #53
They deserve less respect than their famous namesake ever got... 63splitwindow Jan 2016 #14
My guess is the temps in the 20s w/wind and three inches of snow tomorrow might have .. Botany Jan 2016 #19
LOLOLOL!!! 2naSalit Jan 2016 #20
cold feet? tandot Jan 2016 #21
THE LOCAL COMMUNITY ALREADY SAID ...... WE HATE YOUR GUTS. Go away. trueblue2007 Jan 2016 #22
Not so fast.. bl968 Jan 2016 #24
yep. but i would do 3am raids on them in their homes. underthematrix Jan 2016 #29
Then you'll have dead police officers. Make them put down there weapons as they leave the bldg Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #48
odd how OWS people were beaten and dragged away by cops yet these guys? zzzz nt msongs Jan 2016 #27
Yeah, good point lastone Jan 2016 #30
OWS didn't have gunz. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #47
How long til they turn on each other? Anybody see the Hateful 8 yet? Liberty Belle Jan 2016 #32
Just wondering what day their subsidy checks arrive n/t Kennah Jan 2016 #33
I think all wingnuts should hole themselves up in snowy mountain cabins IronLionZion Jan 2016 #39
They moved themselves in there without an invitation LiberalElite Jan 2016 #41
It must be getting cold and uncomfortable. Vinca Jan 2016 #42
put down your guns, surrender and go to jail tk2kewl Jan 2016 #43
Well, well. They know they made a big mistake and now they jwirr Jan 2016 #49
The locals are pissed. Even these idiots must be able to figure out that Oregon is not OregonBlue Jan 2016 #51

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
1. My guess is they've found out how they're being mocked.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jan 2016

Guys like these have very fragile egos and I'm sure they never expected to be ridiculed so mercilessly.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
37. "Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah. I never should have left Nevada...
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 02:41 AM
Jan 2016

People are laughing, making fun of us.
Please send ticket for the next homebound Greyhound bus."

With apologies to Allan Sherman.

AwakeAtLast

(14,248 posts)
52. That, unfortunately, makes them dangerous.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jan 2016

Bruised egos, beginning to face reality, armed to the teeth - not a good combination.

Tess49

(1,596 posts)
3. I thought the community had already told them to get lost. Did they not hear that?
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jan 2016

Plus, they are locked in there without socks, beer, and cheetos. Naturally, they are looking for a way out.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
7. My guess is that they did hear that,
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:33 PM
Jan 2016

so they're using it as a way out of the mess they've gotten themselves into.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
10. I don't mean anything.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jan 2016

I'm just linking to the article.

I would hope that they'll be arrested. I suppose it's possible that they got some kind of deal for a slap on the wrist or immunity in exchange for them leaving.

uppityperson

(115,837 posts)
11. Sorry, I didn't mean you, drm604, but talking to the idiots who will leave
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:40 PM
Jan 2016

I was unclear, didn't mean you, you.

uppityperson

(115,837 posts)
16. No worries. I'm dealing with a sick cat and a job interview tomorrow
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jan 2016

my mind is going many different directions, but I do have warm socks and snacks! Those bozos in OR are something else. I wonder if they are hoping to just walk away from this? I hope they don't get to.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
18. I'm wondering if they've made some kind of deal
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:55 PM
Jan 2016

where they get a slap on the wrist if they leave peacefully.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
35. I"m wondering if they have embarrassed themselves so badly with this fool move
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:59 AM
Jan 2016

That this will be the end of their efforts to keep this People vs BLM and Government alive.

I think this ballooned out of control and they just got scared and now are embarrassed too.

I hope anyway. I'd still love to see them get a little jail time out of this. Teach them a lesson. But I bet it won't happen.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
44. Get about 100 people to set up a nice potluck or pig roast right outside the buiding.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jan 2016

With a sign - no felons allowed. Fuckem!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
45. Exactly ...
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:10 AM
Jan 2016

you don't get to burgle and just say never mind when the authorities arrive ... no matter how well armed you are.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
5. Someone needs to write The Ballad of the Wounded Ego
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:32 PM
Jan 2016

About a war that only one side arrived to fight and the other side collectively yawned and got on with their lives.

 

Bernin

(311 posts)
9. Guess
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jan 2016

the novelty of being holed up in a cabin in single digit temperatures wore off quick.
Not to mention how on earth would they watch the playoffs...

Midnight Writer

(22,944 posts)
25. I'm wondering how long before there is an outbreak of sodomy
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:12 AM
Jan 2016

Seriously, don't these guys have jobs, families, responsibilities?

They are willing to stay there for years?

OK by me. Corral all these nut jobs in one place while the rest of us get on with our lives.

mpcamb

(2,963 posts)
50. Good time to turn off the bldg's heat. Save a few tax payer dollars.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jan 2016

Leave the water on for toilet flushes.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
34. There's satellite TV
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:53 AM
Jan 2016

I found a reference to it in a page for the sanctuary welcoming volunteers.

Probably no widescreen, though.

jalan48

(14,341 posts)
12. They're looking for a way to save face.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:40 PM
Jan 2016

Reality has set in and there has been no big popular uprising to support them. They're basically fucked and they know it. They need to be arrested and jailed.

Midnight Writer

(22,944 posts)
26. And their gun rights should be revoked
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:17 AM
Jan 2016

They have pointed guns at law enforcement officers and used their guns to threaten violence.

Please recall that just last year a couple from the Cliven Bundy stand off went on to shoot and kill a couple of police officers as they ate lunch.

These people cannot be trusted as responsible gun owners.

They have now officially used firearms in the commission of a crime.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
53. If they are convicted of a felony, then they would not be allowed to have guns
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jan 2016

We'll have to wait and see what charges the FBI has come up with.

Botany

(72,385 posts)
19. My guess is the temps in the 20s w/wind and three inches of snow tomorrow might have ..
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 12:04 AM
Jan 2016

... something to do w/their leaving.

http://www.wunderground.com/q/zmw:_97720.1.99999

Still arrest their asses and charge 'em with crimes and make 'em pay for the
police and stuff.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
48. Then you'll have dead police officers. Make them put down there weapons as they leave the bldg
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:16 AM
Jan 2016

and then escort them (in shackles) into the waiting paddy-wagon. Confiscate their guns - they won't need them where they're going.

Then when they get out of jail - they are convicted felons and can't own a firearm. That would make me so happy + I'd probably split a gut laughing!

Liberty Belle

(9,608 posts)
32. How long til they turn on each other? Anybody see the Hateful 8 yet?
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:49 AM
Jan 2016

Movie about a bunch of evil people holed up in a Wyoming cabin in winter who turn on each other out of greed. Very gratuitously violent.

IronLionZion

(46,924 posts)
39. I think all wingnuts should hole themselves up in snowy mountain cabins
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 06:26 AM
Jan 2016

I can't be the only one enjoying this.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
41. They moved themselves in there without an invitation
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 06:29 AM
Jan 2016

they can just move themselves out. At night if necessary so no one sees they're embarrassed. Go the back roads and avoid the cameras. DON"T GO BIG GO QUIETLY.
Edit: Snark notwithstanding, they should not be allowed to get away with this.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
49. Well, well. They know they made a big mistake and now they
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:33 AM
Jan 2016

want the local community to help them leave without losing face.

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