Texas Governor Wants To Amend The Constitution So States Can Ignore The Federal Government
Source: Huffington Post
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) on Friday proposed a series of amendments to the U.S. constitution that would permit states to override the Supreme Court and ignore federal laws.
One of the proposed measures would allow a two-thirds majority of the states to override federal regulations, while another sets the same threshold for overturning decisions by the Supreme Court. The governor also wants to change the Constitution to block Congress from "regulating activity that occurs wholly within one state," and to require a supermajority of seven Supreme Court votes before a "democratically enacted law" can be overturned.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/texas-constitutional-amendment_569018cce4b0cad15e64c589
Um, I thought that conservatives want us all to ABIDE BY the CONSTITUTION more STRICTLY...
Dem. FL Rep Cummins is right.. TX = "crazy state".
truthisfreedom
(23,160 posts)The things repukes say to pander to their base.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,228 posts)He's always been a big supporter of tort reform, including limiting malpractice rewards in cases of permanent paralysis to $250K. But when a tree fell on him 30 years ago, leaving him a paraplegic, he sued the homeowner and their tree service company To date he has received approximately $6 MILLION. He says that different though.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)That he lives off of. But everyone else needs tort reform. Damned hypocrite.
jalan48
(13,905 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)Unless massive voter suppression is successful - which is a real possibility.
Would hate to abandon all of those decent people to the tender mercies of the nutcases.
Get Out The Vote. Monitor the polls. Paper ballots (a little less easy to hijack than electronic votes).
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)Up here in Canada, the province of Alberta recently ousted 42 years of Conservative domination for the NDP. The times, they are a changin.
ananda
(28,890 posts)... and yet here we are, redder and crazier than ever!
lastlib
(23,352 posts)Of course, that's a terrible thing to do to Mexico, but they'd fit right in with the criminal element down there.
treestar
(82,383 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,752 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)or unregulated gas plant explosion levels the town, Texas will be there wanting some FEMA money.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)they'll have another reason to blame the gubmint.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)but it's an unfortunate fact that far too many of my so-called "fellow" Liberals on DU would more than happy to see the federal government be conditionally compassionate when it comes to helping only certain areas of the country. They still haven't figured out that you win hearts and minds by being compassionate to all, not just the people you like.
atreides1
(16,100 posts)"They still haven't figured out that you win hearts and minds by being compassionate to all, not just the people you like."
You can't win the hearts and minds of fanatical zealots, no matter what you do! There are SS veterans who still believe that their "cause" was right and just...and it's been 70 years since the end of the war!
And how do you explain the continued existence of the KKK or the Neo-Nazi groups? Fanatics minds cannot be changed, and they see compassion as weakness to be taken advantage of...and that's exactly what they will do!
kentauros
(29,414 posts)nt
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)state of the confederacy that hasn't tried this bullshit in the past?
These fucking shitheads need to lose some Federal funding...Might be a good time to start moving military bases back up North and making sure that Federal money goes to actual American States.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)And didn't that side LOSE?
Honestly, I'm all for cutting lose states like that. They'd be amazed at how much they actually depend on federal largesse just to survive.
rurallib
(62,471 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)onecaliberal
(32,950 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)From one Calif. to another..
You might want to delete and re-post something a bit more eloquent...
christx30
(6,241 posts)I apologize for our disgrace of a governor. Wish it was Wendy Davis in office. And I totally agree with you. Texas loves to want to ignore the feds, but ready to accept every dime of federal money we can get.
And any time there is a school bond election, the people can be relied upon to vote against it. We're closing schools right and left. There's actually a proposal to put ads on the sides of school buses for extra money (this comment brought to you by Dominos Pizza. We're not cardboard and tomato sauce any more). It's absolutely sick.
vkkv
(3,384 posts)The Gerrymandering is KILLING you guys.
How else does Gohmert keep winning???
kentauros
(29,414 posts)(also called West Louisiana.) He doesn't represent the whole state. You're thinking of Cruz and Cornyn.
East Texas is considered "a whole 'nuther country" by the rest of Texas. Just like many other states that have Redneckistan halves to their states, such as Washington and California.
onecaliberal
(32,950 posts)It's folks like you living there that keep me from wishing they'd drop off the planet.
elmac
(4,642 posts)if we could ignore Texas too. Oh, wait, I already ignore Texass.
Yeah, but they STILL manage to make the news... bummer.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)of those fighting against Santa Anna were not even from Texas, were not Texians and were not Tejanos
So, Abbott, you owe the rest of us big time. Just shut up.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)by the US upon statehood in 1845.
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/mpl01
snip
The Republic of Texas made many headright grants, that is, grants given on the condition that specified requirements be met by the grantees. Under the Constitution of 1836 all heads of families living in Texas on March 4, 1836, except Africans and Indians, were granted "first class" headrights of one league and one labor (4,605.5 acres), and single men aged seventeen years or older, one-third of a league (1,476.1 acres). By later laws "second class" headrights of 1,280 acres to heads of families and 640 acres to single men were granted to those who immigrated to Texas after the Texas Declaration of Independence and before October 1, 1837, and who remained in the republic for three years and performed the duties of citizenship. "Third class" headrights of 640 acres for heads of families and 320 acres for single men went to recipients who immigrated to Texas after October 1, 1837, and before January 1, 1840. In 1841 "fourth class" headright certificates of 640 acres for family heads and 320 acres for single men were granted conditionally to residents who immigrated to Texas between January 1, 1840, and January 1, 1842. A total of 36,876,492 acres was granted by the republic in headright certificates.
Much more at link.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I knew somebody would know a lot more that I do about it all.
Baitball Blogger
(46,775 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)and be done with them. They've pretty much been living in their own world for decades now anyway.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)They propose to replace the US Constitution and Bill of Rights with the Dominionist interpretation of the Holy Bible of the Seven Mountains.
It is the crazy state. I live in it.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)This is like the sequel to a bad movie:
First there was GW Bush, then Rick Perry, now the biggest fuck up of them all.....Greg Abbott
Tennis Magnet
(38 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)Movement along with other leaders:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/dominionism-and-religious-right-merger-complete
snip
We noted a while ago that Jim Garlow, who serves as Chairman of Newt Gingrich's Renewing American Leadership is a Seven Mountains advocate and close friend of Lou Engle, so it is no surprise to see him featured on the front page of Pray and A.C.T's website ... but it is surprising to see Gingrich's organization openly aligning itself with Engle's new organization - and it is even more surprising to see all of the other Religious Right leaders who have also climbed on board:
Jim Garlow, Skyline Church & Renewing American Leadership
Chuck Colson, Founder Prison Fellowship & BreakPoint
Che Ahn, Harvest International Ministry
Vonette Bright, Co-Founder, Campus Crusade for Christ, International
Bishop Keith Butler, Founding Pastor, Word of Faith International Christian Center
Kristina Arriaga, Executive Director, Becket Fund for Religious Liberty
Jim Daly, President & CEO, Focus on the Family
Lou Engle, TheCall to Conscience, TheCall
Father Joseph Fessio, Editor in Chief, Ignatius Press, San Francisco
Maggie Gallagher, National Organization for Marriage
Professor Robert George, Princeton University
Professor Timothy George, Dean, Beeson Divinity School
Jack Hayford, Founder and Chancellor, The King's College and Seminary
Mike Huckabee, Former Governor of Arkansas & Host, The Mike Huckabee Show
Bishop Harry Jackson, Jr., High Impact Church Coalition
Alveda King, Silent No More Awareness Campaign
Richard Land, The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission
Ron Luce, Founder, Teen Mania & Battle Cry
Bishop Richard Malone, Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland (Maine)
Eva Muntean & Dolores Meehan, Co-Founders, West Coast Walk for Life, San Francisco
Penny Nance, Concerned Women for America
Tony Perkins, Family Research Council
James Robison, Life Outreach, International
Samuel Rodriguez, National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference
Alan Sears, Alliance Defense Fund
Chuck Stetson, Lets Strengthen Marriage Campaign
- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/dominionism-and-religious-right-merger-complete#sthash.renlKEfe.dpuf
A huge network of Theocrats is rising to take down the Constitution.
jmowreader
(50,571 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)they mean the Second Amendment.
Everything else could be scratched out and they would finally be happy.
3catwoman3
(24,083 posts)...they know about or care about.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)If they don't want to obey the national government, then get the fuck out of the nation. Open-ccarry to their hearts-content and shoot each other.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)serious mind problems on display
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)dflprincess
(28,089 posts)We already have that. It takes a 2/3 majority to add a new amendment to the Constitution and an amendment may be written to overturn a decision by the court.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Also, the amendment would first have to be proposed by Congress (2/3 in each house) or by a new convention.
Of course, getting into this level of detail is somewhat superfluous. Abbott knows this will never happen. He's just posturing for the base.
dflprincess
(28,089 posts)I feel incredibly dumb to have made this mistake (Civics was always my strong suit.)
Thank you for correcting me gently.
Scalded Nun
(1,244 posts)The really sad thing is that not too long ago we had lots of reasonably smart, common-sense type folks.
Some died off, others left, and a ton turned to the dark side.
It is enough to make you cry.
lastlib
(23,352 posts)(hell, we ALL need Barbara Jordan! She could lay some good Texas whoop-ass on this MOron and his ilk.)
former9thward
(32,111 posts)What he is proposing is in the Constitution (Article V) which allows a convention to change the Constitution to anything they want.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)and I will be the first to demand all liberal texans be allowed in, but if Texas wants to be separate so bad, I am tempted to let them, and then see Mexico reclaim it's former land so fast it will make heads spin.
LTG
(216 posts)If Texas really wants to screw with the balance of political, conservative power in the U.S., they have at their disposal a potentially very powerful weapon. While their annexation agreement does not contain the mythical right of secession it does, as I understand it, have a right reserved to Texas to divide itself into 5 separate states. I believe it had something to do with maintaining a balance of slave vs non-slave states in the west.
It would appear that Texas has the right to unilaterally establish the borders of 5 separate states, from the area now making up the state of Texas. The U.S. government would then have to admit them, adding 8 new Senators to the Senate. House seats, being allotted by population, would probably not change. Divided properly this would add 3 and possibly 4 new conservative "Texas" states to the Union. It wouldn't really affect Presidential or House elections much, but it could heavily impact the Senate.
At least that's how I recall the agreement reading. If they don't have the right to leave, they must just decide to stay and screw with the rest of us.
cap
(7,170 posts)It did not work out well for the country.
Vinca
(50,322 posts)relocate the Border Patrol agents, cut off disaster funding and all subsidies, stop sending Medicare and SS checks and bill them for use of the Interstate highways . . . for starters? Ignoring the federal government cuts both ways.
Hugin
(33,222 posts)I invite them to leave and live anywhere else.
I'm quite sick of their making this an unhealthy and dangerous country.
still_one
(92,482 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)No, just the way they as a party interpret the constitution.
lark
(23,182 posts)Can we pass a law that our federal taxes can't be used for the war machine? There could be a silver lining, lol. Of course, this will never happen. TX just likes to act stupid and pose for their tealiban.
kimbutgar
(21,236 posts)The fed should close the military bases, pull out any federal property and let them build a wall to to their texasnustan country, give sane people a year to get the hell out of the state.
sinkingfeeling
(51,484 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)JCMach1
(27,582 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,178 posts)No National Guard service
No any armed forces service, Marines, Navy, ....
No Social services
No Federal food inspectors or product safety inspectors
No FEMA
No US flags, stars n stripes.
No support for Olympic athletes
No National anthems, like This Land is Your Land
No....
Okay then. I wonder how many Texans would like this.