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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 08:57 PM Jan 2016

U.S. bombs 'millions' in ISIS currency holdings

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)In an extremely unusual airstrike, the U.S. dropped bombs Sunday in central Mosul, Iraq, destroying a building containing huge amounts of cash ISIS was using to pay its troops and for ongoing operations, two U.S. defense officials told CNN.

The officials could not say exactly how much money was there or in what currency, but one described it as "millions."

Two 2,000-pound bombs destroyed the site quickly. But the longstanding impact may be even more significant. The officials said the U.S. plans to strike more financial targets like this one to take away ISIS's ability to function as a state-like entity.
The ISIS terror threat
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The U.S. considers the Mosul strike extremely sensitive, as the building is in an area where civilians are also located, and there was a significant risk of civilian casualties.



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/11/politics/us-bombs-millions-isis-currency-supply/




Video at link. This is important just before the State of the Union speech.
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U.S. bombs 'millions' in ISIS currency holdings (Original Post) JDPriestly Jan 2016 OP
When we start freezing Saudi and Qatari assets, then we'll start to be serious about IS finances. leveymg Jan 2016 #1
Bombing money flamingdem Jan 2016 #2
Ironically the US is... EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #3
sounds like yet another BS conspiracy theory uhnope Jan 2016 #9
luckily for you the internet exists EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #10
I guess it'd be better to just let yemen go back to the way it was before. 7962 Jan 2016 #12
Iran or ISIS EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #19
None of which justifies such a piss-poor overgeneralized smear uhnope Jan 2016 #14
Now that IS BS EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #18
This day-old story was already posted in LBN yesterday PSPS Jan 2016 #4
Sorry. I missed it. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #15
Probably some of the trillions the Pentagon "lost". valerief Jan 2016 #5
Oh no, that's long gone. I think it went to Russia. They would've been glad to launder that rhett o rick Jan 2016 #6
Let me get this straight, can we bomb anywhere we like to kill ISIS terrorists or their money? rhett o rick Jan 2016 #7
I have another question. If I deposit cash in my credit union and the government bombs rhett o rick Jan 2016 #8
ISIS banking is not regular banking. They dont have an FDIC. 7962 Jan 2016 #13
That doesn't make any sense. You are saying that they only deal in cash. Where ever ISIS rhett o rick Jan 2016 #16
If that was true, it'd be easy to track. They dont bank like that 7962 Jan 2016 #22
There's always bitcoin daleo Jan 2016 #23
How about drug cartel money? Same difference. The big banks of the world are not going rhett o rick Jan 2016 #24
Drug cartels are a totally different animal. 7962 Jan 2016 #25
The name ISIS might be new but those running the organization and financing it are rhett o rick Jan 2016 #28
Ahhhhhh, good point. 7962 Jan 2016 #29
Yeah, they are running around and just swipe the card using a smartphone snooper2 Jan 2016 #26
I would hope that "politically liberal" posters could have an honest discussion without rhett o rick Jan 2016 #27
From the description i don't think this was a bank... reACTIONary Jan 2016 #30
The currency cratered daleo Jan 2016 #11
"cratered" Right. Very good response. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #21
Oh! They found the missing pallets? Proserpina Jan 2016 #17
That's a good one. Could be! JDPriestly Jan 2016 #20

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. When we start freezing Saudi and Qatari assets, then we'll start to be serious about IS finances.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jan 2016

The neocons are on bed with the Saud regime. Time to turn them out before they start the next big war.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
10. luckily for you the internet exists
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:06 PM
Jan 2016
On Oct. 27, coalition airstrikes destroyed a Doctors Without Borders (MSF) medical clinic, one of the few still functioning in the northern Yemeni province of Saada. Inflicting widespread civilian hardship amounts to collective punishment, fueling the devastation that the MSF says has claimed as many lives as the bombings.

The US (and UK) offers logistical support for the coalition, in addition to selling billions of dollars in weapons to its members, including Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. US officials say American personnel are also involved in providing targeting assistance for airstrikes, which the UN says are responsible for the majority of the more than 2,300 civilian deaths in the conflict in the past six months.

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/11/us-may-be-complicit-in-war-crimes-in-yemen.html

A Dutch-led effort to create a human rights mission for Yemen was abandoned Wednesday amid intense Saudi opposition at the UN, but human rights experts are laying blame in part at the feet of the United States, which failed to vigorously back the Netherlands — and may have worked behind the scenes to head off the independent investigation.

https://news.vice.com/article/as-saudis-block-a-human-rights-inquiry-in-yemen-the-us-stays-quiet

The U.S.-Backed War in Yemen Is Strengthening al Qaeda

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/25/the-u-s-backed-war-in-yemen-is-strengthening-al-qaeda.html

"The conflict has produced another bitter legacy: a new branch of the Islamic State that has quietly grown in strength and appears determined to distinguish itself as Yemen’s most disruptive and brutal force, carrying out attacks considered too extreme even by the country’s branch of Al Qaeda."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/world/middleeast/islamic-state-gains-strength-in-yemen-rivaling-al-qaeda.html?_r=0


Now next time use google before you call what I post BS or a conspiracy theory.

And don't come back to me unless you go and read these links, which come from US, UK and Arabic sources.

Here's what else we're doing in Yemen:

"More than half a million children in Yemen face life-threatening malnutrition as a risk of famine grows, a senior official of the U.N. Children's Fund (UNICEF) said on Friday."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/half-a-million-children-are-starving-in-yemen-report_5623bac5e4b02f6a900ca5c2

Saudi-led naval blockade leaves 20m Yemenis facing humanitarian disaster
Aid agencies say embargo imposed by US and UK-backed Arab coalition has had dramatic effect, with almost 80% of population in urgent need of food, water and medical supplies
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/05/saudi-led-naval-blockade-worsens-yemen-humanitarian-disaster

U.S. Support for Saudi Strikes in Yemen Raises War Crime Concerns
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/10/15/u-s-support-for-saudi-strikes-in-yemen-raises-war-crime-concerns/

Arab coalition accused of war crimes in Yemen
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/yemen-151007015252750.html

Saudi Arabia’s US-Backed Air War in Yemen May Have Committed War Crimes—Again
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/01/us-backed-saudi-led-airwar-yemen-condemned-potentially-committing-war-crimes-again
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
12. I guess it'd be better to just let yemen go back to the way it was before.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:25 PM
Jan 2016

A pile of disorganized shit. So let Iran have it too, huh?

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
19. Iran or ISIS
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:31 AM
Jan 2016

Which do you want?

And if SA and Yemen hadn't spent years trying to bomb the Shia in Yemen out of existence this wouldn't be happening. Are you suggesting that it's just a shame that didn't happen?

Iran is the least of anyone's worries.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
18. Now that IS BS
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:29 AM
Jan 2016

Is the US bombing civilians?

Yes.

Is the US helping al Qaeda and ISIS.

Yes.

Are a variety of aid groups and the Un saying the US is involved in potential war crimes in Yemen?

Yes.

No smear.

I know that you've only found out about this and are now an expert suddenly, but consider spending more than 5 minutes reading about it before reaching your conclusions.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
6. Oh no, that's long gone. I think it went to Russia. They would've been glad to launder that
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 09:30 PM
Jan 2016

money.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
7. Let me get this straight, can we bomb anywhere we like to kill ISIS terrorists or their money?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 09:32 PM
Jan 2016

By the way, I bet some of ISIS's money is in the big banks of American.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
8. I have another question. If I deposit cash in my credit union and the government bombs
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 09:34 PM
Jan 2016

the credit union, what makes anyone think that my money got bombed. Banks don't keep the cash. The bank still owes ISIS their money. Help me out here.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
13. ISIS banking is not regular banking. They dont have an FDIC.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jan 2016

Whatever money is in the bank is the money they have. If we burn it, its gone. Nobody will step in to replace it other than other ISIS members & supporters

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. That doesn't make any sense. You are saying that they only deal in cash. Where ever ISIS
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jan 2016

gets their money, I bet it isn't in cash. And when they spend it, also not cash. I bet when a bank gets their money, even if cash they don't simply store it. They would invest it like other banks and give ISIS a credit balance.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
22. If that was true, it'd be easy to track. They dont bank like that
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:57 AM
Jan 2016

You really think whoever they deal with wants an electronic trail? They bank like drug dealers. They steal from banks in towns they overtake, they sell oil, they get paid in cash. They keep the cash SOMEWHERE. ISIS soldiers dont have direct deposit and I seriously doubt they take checks. They want CASH. Actual cash cant be wired from one location to another. So a bank full of cash bombed is a bank full of cash LOST. NO ONE is going to replace it as a loss.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
23. There's always bitcoin
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:47 AM
Jan 2016

Mostly, kidding, but you never know. Actually, if ISIS is being supported by Saudi Arabia (as many suspect), through the back door, they may have access to banking that way. We really don't know just who bankrolls them, and how.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
24. How about drug cartel money? Same difference. The big banks of the world are not going
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jan 2016

to let that money just sit around in rooms. They know they will only get a slap on the wrist if someone wants to make an issue of it.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
25. Drug cartels are a totally different animal.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jan 2016

Being connected to a cartel in the banking business is quite a bit further under the radar than worldwide terrorist organizations are.
Isis is nothing like them; they're new on the street. They havent had the time to build up a worldwide network of money laundering. But I guess its entirely possible that someone like a Saudi Arabia could replace the money destroyed if they wanted to. but it still would be more money spent. They're not running a normal business.
If it didnt matter, then why would the president want the military to destroy the cash? Its just like when they caught saddam, he had millions with him. If he had escaped and left the money, it wasnt going to be replaced.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
28. The name ISIS might be new but those running the organization and financing it are
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jan 2016

not new. I am sure there are a lot of banks that would want their money and not to lock in a room.

"why would the president want the military to destroy the cash?" Maybe a better question would be, "why would the president want us to think he destroyed the cash?" Especially immediately before a state of the union address.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
30. From the description i don't think this was a bank...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:46 PM
Jan 2016

...so much as it was a money warehouse. I don't think isis can credit the demand accounts of their minions and have their checks honnored. I don't think they can or do mint/print species and if they did, it wouldn't be worth a Venezuelan bolívar.

So they have to stock pile cash from other lands, and deliver cash on the barrel head. If you physically destroy it, it’s gone.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
11. The currency cratered
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jan 2016

Seriously, though, I wonder how you would prove that you destroyed a few million dollars worth of paper money.

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