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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:45 PM Jan 2016

FSU reaches settlement with Winston accuser

Source: Tallahassee Democrat

Florida State University has reached a settlement with Erica Kinsman, a former student who accused former FSU quarterback Jameis Winston of rape.

As part of the settlement Kinsman agreed to drop her title IX lawsuit against the school. She will receive $250,000 as part of the settlement. Her attorneys will receive $700,000.

Read more: http://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2016/01/25/fsu-reaches-250k-settlement-winston-accuser/79300122/

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FSU reaches settlement with Winston accuser (Original Post) Calista241 Jan 2016 OP
Why the fuck would the lawyers get almost 75% FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #1
I don't know. Baffles me. Calista241 Jan 2016 #2
They always say "1/3", but then they add in "expenses". 7962 Jan 2016 #3
Sounds like they aren't DirkGently Jan 2016 #9
Sounds like a lot a people were questioning their fees FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #12
Looks like they updated the story after my post Calista241 Jan 2016 #14
Or FSU lied. DirkGently Jan 2016 #17
And Winston keeps cashing his huge checks. nt 7962 Jan 2016 #4
Why wouldn't he? Lemoni Jan 2016 #8
Gee, of course he would. Happily getting away with assault 7962 Jan 2016 #11
Glad she finally can get this settled. lark Jan 2016 #5
FSU sounds like the government of Sweden which does not take the safety of its women seriously Akicita Jan 2016 #6
Its seems to be the same here. Athelites generally get away with terrible ... marble falls Jan 2016 #7
Think this protecting of football players, especially the stars, is rampant in this country. lark Jan 2016 #18
Too bad this wasn't fully investigated. Lunabell Jan 2016 #10
I don't want to seem insensitive to woman's issues especially rape or assault neohippie Jan 2016 #13
I would tend to agree in this case. Calista241 Jan 2016 #15
The only people I know who are disparaging the victim are FSU fans FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #16
Agreed.I'm an FSU alumna and I am disgusted by the way this case was handled. Iris Jan 2016 #19
FSU's statement said madville Jan 2016 #20

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
1. Why the fuck would the lawyers get almost 75%
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jan 2016

I'm glad for her but there should be limits on what lawyers can get their hands on.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
9. Sounds like they aren't
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:14 AM
Jan 2016

One of Kinsman's attorneys, John Clune, said the settlement numbers don't reflect the actual amounts attorneys and Kinsman will receive. Clune would not disclose exact figures due to attorney-client privilege, but said lawyers "are not taking anywhere near" the $700,000 amount. Kinsman, he added, will "definitely" get more than $250,000.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
12. Sounds like a lot a people were questioning their fees
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jan 2016

and Public pressure means they will now throw the actual victim another $50K while still pocketing the majority of the money



Calista241

(5,586 posts)
14. Looks like they updated the story after my post
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jan 2016

To include the damage control statements by the attorneys.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
17. Or FSU lied.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jan 2016

Perish the thought. They've been so honorable thus far, after all.

FSU used that breakdown to justify its large payment to Ms. Kinsman and do not reflect the actual attorney fees on the case, which are far lower than Thrasher’s misrepresentation," Clune said. "We are sorry to see President Thrasher taint an otherwise healthy resolution for both sides."


Highly unlikely lawyers would change their fees out of worry someone in the public would object.
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
11. Gee, of course he would. Happily getting away with assault
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:05 AM
Jan 2016

knowing from the start that there would be little actual "investigation".

lark

(23,097 posts)
5. Glad she finally can get this settled.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:55 PM
Jan 2016

FSU and Jimbo screwed up big time supporting Winston unconditionally, especially when he had a history of lying about other stupid, misogynistic actions he'd taken and about his several thefts. FSU does not take the safety of it's women students seriously! A co-workers daughter was brutally raped on campus by 4 guys in school letter jackets and they did nothing to even try and find these horrible menaces. She was in the hospital for a week and will never be able to have children as a result of her injuries. She was also not the first or only person to have that happen that year, and they still did nothing to protect the young women there.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
6. FSU sounds like the government of Sweden which does not take the safety of its women seriously
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jan 2016

if sexual assault perpetrators belong to a protected entity.

lark

(23,097 posts)
18. Think this protecting of football players, especially the stars, is rampant in this country.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jan 2016

The "wins" in the games are more important to the PTB than their female students lives. That was certainly the case at FSU where the victim was threatened by the cops on behalf of the University for filing a rape report and Jimbo openly sided with Winston absent any investigation.

Lunabell

(6,080 posts)
10. Too bad this wasn't fully investigated.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:48 AM
Jan 2016

We will never know the real truth. Though, I believe the victim.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
13. I don't want to seem insensitive to woman's issues especially rape or assault
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:19 AM
Jan 2016

But for those of you who think that this is a clear case of assault, that really isn't the case here, there was a lot of investigation into the victim's story there was a hearing on campus, many of the statements claimed by the victim were proven to be untrue, and as an alumnus of FSU and a person who lived in Tallahassee for over fourteen years, who still has many contacts there, the reality is that there was a lot of room to doubt her account as being an honest one. I think that it's is unlikely based on all the reading I have done on this case and it was covered in the media for more than a year in a half, culminating in the campus hearing which didn't find enough evidence that her accusations were the truth. I know that people are tried and convicted in the media all the time these days and that with all of the stories that we see about athlete's and their troubles with relationships, violence etc... that it's easy to believe that every story is true but in this case, which I followed very closely, because of my ties to the school I think that Winston, was smeared, and I realize that my opinion may not be popular here, but investigate the stories and what all parties involved have said on the record about the incident and see if you still believe that this was an assault.

And there is still a civil suit pending on this case by the way, so the victim has another chance to tell her story to a court and so does the defendant

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
15. I would tend to agree in this case.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:33 AM
Jan 2016

Winston wasn't a household name when the incident happened. He hadn't played a single down for FSU yet, hadn't participated in spring practice, and was on the depth chart behind Jake Coker.

The cops had no real reason to give him a pass.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
16. The only people I know who are disparaging the victim are FSU fans
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jan 2016

Pathetic.

I'm here in Florida and know many good FSU fans and have followed the case closely.

Anyone that would defend the way this investigation was conducted, the way the police let the FSU administration & athletic department talk to/intimidate witnesses was criminal. No wonder their internal "investigation" focused on attacking the victim.

The good news is that most FSU are not as biased as you.

Iris

(15,653 posts)
19. Agreed.I'm an FSU alumna and I am disgusted by the way this case was handled.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jan 2016

And really dismayed at my friends from college who jumped on the Winston bandwagon.

madville

(7,408 posts)
20. FSU's statement said
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:22 PM
Jan 2016

They would spend more in their own attorney fees even if they successfully defended the case in court so they agreed to settle without admitting any wrongdoing.

I think both Winston and the woman still have civil lawsuits pending against one another.

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