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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:54 PM Mar 2016

Senators Want Clinton Aide To Talk, After Receiving Immunity Deal

Source: The Hill

By Julian Hattem - 03/08/16 09:14 AM EST

A pair of leading Republican senators are asking a former State Department official who reached an immunity deal with the Justice Department last week to answer their questions about Hillary Clinton’s “homebrew” email server.

In a letter sent last week but released on Tuesday morning, Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) told the aide, Bryan Pagliano, that he shouldn’t have any reason not to appear.

“Because the Department of Justice has granted you immunity from prosecution in this situation, there is no longer reasonable cause for you to believe that discussing these matters with the relevant oversight committees could result in your prosecution,” wrote Grassley and Johnson, who lead the Judiciary and Homeland Security committees, respectively.

Pagliano was believed to be in charge of setting up Clinton’s email server at her New York home while she was secretary of State. He also worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/272171-senators-want-clinton-aide-to-talk-after-receiving-immunity-deal

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Senators Want Clinton Aide To Talk, After Receiving Immunity Deal (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2016 OP
Hillary Always Says That Other SoS Did This As Well But.... global1 Mar 2016 #1
Her reasoning is that Geronimoe Mar 2016 #6
but she used four devices nt grasswire Mar 2016 #9
Republican senators (be specific) frazzled Mar 2016 #2
Do you think it will somehow end if Hillary gets elected? jalan48 Mar 2016 #3
So we should always cede to bullies? frazzled Mar 2016 #16
Everyone who questions Hillary is a bully. jalan48 Mar 2016 #17
The Republican members of Congress have proven themselves so. frazzled Mar 2016 #21
The Clinton campaign has lost credibility with Progressives on the way it has smeared Sanders. jalan48 Mar 2016 #25
For the Clintons, it will never end. bermudat Mar 2016 #28
Given how Hillary stood strong at the last hearing 6chars Mar 2016 #15
Hillary deleted 30,000 emails without any independent oversight, she says they were private peacebird Mar 2016 #4
interestingly enough rtracey Mar 2016 #7
But I think they were done behind the .gov firewall and on premise. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #13
Yes it is if you are violating FOIA by putting your emails out of reach of FOIA requests which is Akicita Mar 2016 #22
ummmm rtracey Mar 2016 #27
Yeppir. And anti-Hillary to boot. Akicita Mar 2016 #29
hmmmm rtracey Mar 2016 #40
I would much prefer Sanders/Warren but Biden/Warren would be fine.. Just not Hiilary. Akicita Mar 2016 #41
She didn't need oversight. She had every right to determine what was personal and professional. Laser102 Mar 2016 #10
You may want to take that up with the DOJ and the FBI. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #12
That's correct. She also had a responsibility to determine if information she was emailing was Akicita Mar 2016 #30
So what? Zambero Mar 2016 #31
So what? Her top aide worked simultaneously for state, the Clinton Foundation, & an advisory firm peacebird Mar 2016 #33
I get it Zambero Mar 2016 #36
Everyone did it, so I could too! Scalded Nun Mar 2016 #5
That was "just following order" which doesn't... scscholar Mar 2016 #26
Really Demsrule86 Mar 2016 #8
Two of the biggest Republican assholes in the Senate. onehandle Mar 2016 #11
Looks like the new campaign slogan will be, "Hillary the victim". jalan48 Mar 2016 #14
Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President. George II Mar 2016 #18
Really Chuck mjh1962 Mar 2016 #19
Hillary With Same Old Baggage billhicks76 Mar 2016 #20
This proves the Hillary supporters to have been right on the immunity issue. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #23
Pffft... Purveyor Mar 2016 #24
No, it doesn't. What convoluted nonsense. winter is coming Mar 2016 #32
Legitimate my butt. Are you Republican ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #35
Nope. n/t winter is coming Mar 2016 #37
So, you think the FBI is not up to the job ? You think that Republicans in Congress don't think Trust Buster Mar 2016 #38
I think the FBI is competent to conduct an investigation, and that the Benghazi winter is coming Mar 2016 #39
Dear Hillary, Cavallo Mar 2016 #34

global1

(25,247 posts)
1. Hillary Always Says That Other SoS Did This As Well But....
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:57 PM
Mar 2016

I don't think Kerry, Powell or Rice had their own e-mail server in their house. Nor did they move through the volume of e-mails that Hillary has. Did she ever explain why she felt it necessary to set up her own server?

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
6. Her reasoning is that
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:06 PM
Mar 2016

ahe only wanted to use on smart phone. Obviously this makes no sense as you can have multiple email accounts on a single phone.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
2. Republican senators (be specific)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:59 PM
Mar 2016

They want another Benghazi to help them through the elections. They will call 7 or 9 hearings, learn absolutely nothing, and end up being chastised themselves in the end.

But go ahead and trumpet these Republican efforts.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
16. So we should always cede to bullies?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:18 PM
Mar 2016

No thanks. That's not logical thinking, imo. Should Obama have resigned because the Republicans were constantly obstructing him and even in the beginning promulgating all types of birther lies and voting like 75 times to rescind Obamacare?

jalan48

(13,865 posts)
17. Everyone who questions Hillary is a bully.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:21 PM
Mar 2016

You know, the whole interrupting, finger wagging thing?

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
21. The Republican members of Congress have proven themselves so.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:59 PM
Mar 2016

They've bullied Obama with obstruction and lies, and they will bully EITHER Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders. I simply don't think we should applaud the bullies to try to bolster our own positions.

jalan48

(13,865 posts)
25. The Clinton campaign has lost credibility with Progressives on the way it has smeared Sanders.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:37 PM
Mar 2016

It's too bad because she's going to need their support down the road when these bullies try and impeach her if she becomes POTUS.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
4. Hillary deleted 30,000 emails without any independent oversight, she says they were private
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:04 PM
Mar 2016

And we are supposed to take her word for that because she is so HONEST & TRUSTWORTHY?

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
7. interestingly enough
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:06 PM
Mar 2016

Although it was not illegal by the state department to set up private email server.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
22. Yes it is if you are violating FOIA by putting your emails out of reach of FOIA requests which is
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:09 PM
Mar 2016

exactly what she did. It is also highly illegal to store classified info on a private server in your home.

She tried a new tact in last night's town hall. When asked how emails she wrote would be determined to be classified or not and by whom, she tried to say the decision of whether her emails were classified or not would only be made if they were wanting to make the info public. That's just silly.

Because only Hillary and the sender or receiver of each of her emails knew what was in them, nobody was allowed to determine if they contained classified info until they were vetted for public release by a judges order. She's trying to say that it is fine to keep over 2,100 emails containing sensitive information that would be classified, some of it top secret, on a private server in her home and in a bathroom closet at some two bit data storage place where it could be hacked by our adversaries because they were "not marked classified" when no one but her and the recipient had any access to determine if an email she sent should be marked classified.

She is spinning like a top.

Laser102

(816 posts)
10. She didn't need oversight. She had every right to determine what was personal and professional.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:08 PM
Mar 2016

That's according to the State Department rules when she was SOS. This is dust in the wind.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
12. You may want to take that up with the DOJ and the FBI.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:14 PM
Mar 2016

Tell them to their faces that it's just "dust in the wind". Nice song though...

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
30. That's correct. She also had a responsibility to determine if information she was emailing was
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:17 PM
Mar 2016

secret or not since no one but her and the recipient knew what was in the emails she stored on her private server. Apparently she didn't pay much or any attention to that responsibility as now that her emails have finally been vetted, over 2,100 of them have been found to contain classified info.

Her defense seems to be that because she didn't mark those emails as classified when she sent them(I'm talking here about the ones she sent), she should not be held responsible that they actually do contain classified info. Nobody else but her and the recipient had the opportunity to determine if they were classified for the years she kept them on a private server until now that they are finally being vetted.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
31. So what?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:57 PM
Mar 2016

I have to delete several dozen of private emails daily, or they will eventually be rejected. I'm still undecided, but this whole email business is a stretch.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
33. So what? Her top aide worked simultaneously for state, the Clinton Foundation, & an advisory firm
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

Were the private emails showing quid pro quo between donations to Clinton foundation & weapons deals from state? the Saudis gave huge donations to the Clinton Foundation AND rcvd nice weapons contracts from state. The russians gave HUGE donations to Clinton Foundation and rcvd rights to an American uranium mine

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
36. I get it
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

She knew someone who knew someone who... And that Clinton Foundation non-profit stuff. Beyond shocking....

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
5. Everyone did it, so I could too!
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:05 PM
Mar 2016

Said so many ex-leaders in Germany following WWII.

It has NEVER been a valid excuse, regardless of the infraction/crime.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
26. That was "just following order" which doesn't...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:41 PM
Mar 2016

apply at all in this case. In this case, she was the one giving the orders so this doesn't compare at all. Plus, she already confirmed the legality of her actions.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
8. Really
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:07 PM
Mar 2016

So now we report GOP propaganda people. You won't help Bernie and you will help elect a GOP who will be much much worse than any 10 Hillaries and once we lose the courts won't matter if you vote.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
11. Two of the biggest Republican assholes in the Senate.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:08 PM
Mar 2016

Who have accomplished zero in their careers.

Shocker.

jalan48

(13,865 posts)
14. Looks like the new campaign slogan will be, "Hillary the victim".
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:18 PM
Mar 2016

First the Sander's camp demands she release her speeches to Wall Street (at $200,000+ a pop) and now this. It's so unfair!

mjh1962

(1 post)
19. Really Chuck
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:23 PM
Mar 2016

Perhaps we should suspend all investigations till after the general election. Should the Mercun people have a say in this?

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
23. This proves the Hillary supporters to have been right on the immunity issue.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:17 PM
Mar 2016

We said that her aides lawyers demanded immunity to protect him from Republicans. If he would have testified under oath to the FBI, that would have essentially waived his fifth amendment right with respect to Congress. The Republicans desperately want to time another Congressional dog and pony show up with the general election. That doesn't surprise me. What surprises me is that Sanders supporters have lost so much perspective during these primaries that they have become de facto Republicans in the process. Congratulations. P.S.: You too will also fail in the politics of destruction.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
32. No, it doesn't. What convoluted nonsense.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 07:07 PM
Mar 2016

Pagliano invoked the Fifth to avoid self-incrimination. The Benghazi committee didn't have the authority to prosecute him for anything, but he could be prosecuted by others for statements made in front of the committee (or anywhere else). Pagliano was granted immunity to compel him to testify as part of the FBI investigation. It was not something he asked for to "protect" him from Republicans: pleading the Fifth accomplished that.

There are three distinct, yet related things going on here. The Benghazi committee stuff is purely political, and yes, they'd love to get Pagliano in front of them in hopes of damaging Clinton. The other two are legitimate investigations being undertaken by the FBI and by the State Department. Trying to mash those three things together and wrap them up in a "Benghazi" blanket is a dishonest and desperate ploy.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
38. So, you think the FBI is not up to the job ? You think that Republicans in Congress don't think
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:10 PM
Mar 2016

that the FBI is up to the job ? It's all politics to Republicans. If you're a Democrat, you know that.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
39. I think the FBI is competent to conduct an investigation, and that the Benghazi
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:16 PM
Mar 2016

committee exists for political reasons.

They are two different things.

And that's twice you've implied I'm not a Democrat because I don't buy what you're selling. Lose the personal attacks.

Cavallo

(348 posts)
34. Dear Hillary,
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 07:29 PM
Mar 2016

Where has the pandering to the Republicans ever got you? They hate you.

Cut, past, change title name to Barack, send. cut paste, change title name to the next Democratic President, send. Cut past, change title name to Congress person, Secretary of state, any leftwing politician no matter how low their post ... send.

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