BREAKING: Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic presidential primary in Michigan.

[Bubzer]

Source: AP

BREAKING: Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic presidential primary in Michigan. @AP race call at 11:30 p.m. EST. #Election2016 #APracecall

Read more: https://twitter.com/AP/status/707423466463633408

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This is a TREMENDOUS upset! Hillary's expected 18 point win was OVERTURNED!!!

[TIME TO PANIC]

1. K & R!

[Bubzer]

3. Great night!

[TIME TO PANIC]

15. Damn, that was intense!

[Chicago1980]

20. Who's panicing?

[TIME TO PANIC]

30. The establishment is now.

[Chicago1980]

37. I' not concerned about them.

Too many of them need to go.

[Bubzer]

44. It was! It had my heart going a mile a minute!

[TIME TO PANIC]

54. I was a nervous wreck all evening.

[Bubzer]

64. You and me both!

[Duckfan]

76. I was smoking too much I was so nervous

Then saw up by 24K with 94% in.

Feeling awesome now!!!!

[Blue Owl]

2. Berned it

n/t

[retrowire]

4. Now where did I put that... AH! Here it is!

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WOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

18 point lead DOWN THE DRAIN IN LESS THAN A WEEK!

Oh man, the tables have truly begun to turn! YESSSS

[Kalidurga]

8. One of my very favorite gifs than you

[retrowire]

22. :D

WE DANCE!!

[Chicago1980]

25. Have they though?

He still has a ways to go before he actually catches up in delegates.

[retrowire]

29. If reversing an 18 point lead within a week isn't indicative...

Then I don't know what is. This is big.

[Chicago1980]

42. In one state.

We'll see what happens next week.

We'll be voting here in Illinois next Tuesday.

[retrowire]

50. I'm reading and hearing that Michigan may be one state.

But it represents the midwestern industrial type electorate. Because of this, 2 things happen.

1. It shows that a state with this type of formula and demographic can prefer Bernie

AND

2. It has certainly filled a lot of sails with wind in the Bernie campaign. I mean, if we can remove an 18 point lead within a week?!? Who know what else we can do?

Volunteers, let's keep it up!

[Enthusiast]

137. Exactly. All of the Northern industrialized states had their legs cut from under them—trade deals..

There is no question about this now after these many years have gone by. We know, we had good jobs and now they are gone.

The globalization push and free trade was no more a valid strategy for maintaining our living standard than was supply side trickle down.

Many of us see this as an act of treason.

[timmymoff]

59. I voted today in Illinois

I voted Bernie. My father announced his flip from Hillary to Bernie just yesterday! Keep up the good work Berners

[xloadiex]

73. Hopefully

Bernie will in Il. It's not impossible.

[JesterCS]

110. OH is very Bernie friendly

At least SW Ohio under-40 voters

[yellowcanine]

124. Actually it is LBN, not the Bernie group.

Just sayin.'

And the goal is winning the most delegates, not beating the polls. Its is a good win for Bernie but doesn't change the basic math of the campaign so far. Could it be an indicator of better results to come for Bernie? Possibly, but I think it is too early to tell. Let's see what happens in the next couple of weeks.

[Bubzer]

127. Oops. My mistake.

[tabasco]

138. Thank you for that vital information.

Last edited Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:40 PM - Edit history (1)

I had no idea Michigan was just one state. I thought maybe it was two with that piece on top.

[navarth]

152. It's sorta 2 for the price of one.

And then you have the added value of being adjacent to our best friend Canada. Good times.

[Duppers]

62. Love it!!

[shireen]

79. awesome graphic!

I hope you don't mind ... I stole it and posted on FB.

[Duppers]

84. Excellent. Spread it around all you like.

[renate]

98. that's wonderful!

[C Moon]

71. +1000

[Cavallo]

100. I've never seen that before. Love it!

[Betty Karlson]

134. So Clinton is the candidate who, though ill-advised lies, can snatch defeat from the

jaws of "inevitable" defeat. Question: is that the candidate we want at the top[ of the bill in the GE?

[Pastiche423]

5. Acha Nina!

Go Bernie Go!

[rury]

6. WOW!! HUGE surprise!

[forest444]

7. Feel the Bern...and, in Hillary's case, the backfire.

[Feeling the Bern]

9. But, but. . .ah, it's only Michigan. Who cares. HRC won Mississippi and look at how she did

with AA voters.

Bernie is still unelectable. He is a fringe candidate. He's a one issue candidate. He's a socialist communist. He's. . .GOING TO BE OUT NEXT PRESIDENT!!!!


BERNIE!!! BERNIE!!! BERNIE!!!

Sanders/O'Malley 2016

[Chicago1980]

47. I didn't realize it was November.

How about you wait and see like everyone else?

[Feeling the Bern]

89. I'm sorry. I never said that to HRC people before Sanders decided to run

But I have been told HRC is inevitable.

Now that I am happy and see Sanders getting the nom, HRC fans get their undies in a wad.

Welcome to ignoreland. See you after the primary.

[LibDemAlways]

10. NBC just called it too!!

[Beacool]

11. Congratulations.

[rpannier]

16. Thank You Much

You too on Mississippi

[Beacool]

18. Thank you.

[Chicago1980]

27. I appreciate the decent back and forth.

On to next week.

[restorefreedom]

28. thanks, beacool

and congrats on mississipi

another night, something for everyone (except rubio)

[Beacool]

40. Thank you.

Yeah, Rubio is toast.

[restorefreedom]

49. gonna miss the boy wonder...not! :) nt

[Bubzer]

66. ...

[Scootaloo]

102. yeah well who gives a fuck about Rubio.

[restorefreedom]

112. i certainly do not, but am enjoying his political demise nt

[denvine]

60. Thanks!

Congratulations on Mississippi!

[Beacool]

67. Thank you.

[840high]

85. Thank you very much.

[AzDar]

12. Go, Bernie GO!! Thank you, Michigan!!! And all you Beautiful Bernie People!!!

[llmart]

139. You're welcome......

Finally - Michigan does something right for a change

[Merryland]

13. SO SO SO happy!

[rpannier]

14. WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Damn that's great to see

[ErikJ]

17. CNN just called it

[rpannier]

46. Coool

Thanks

[safeinOhio]

19. I trudge down my snowy road on foot,

up hill both ways, to caste my vote for him.

Ok, there was a little snow still in the ditch and it's only a quarter mile each way.

[840high]

81. .

[RufusTFirefly]

21. Woo hoo! There's a "potty" goin' on 'round here

https://m.

[billhicks76]

23. They Are Smarter In The North

The south gave us slavery years ago, yes, but today it's different. The republicans are mostly the racist ones now. But the South gave us the wars in the Middle East...they have always been the strongest for that. Im sorry but that is as lame as it gets. Go Blue!!!

[Chicago1980]

33. So you're disregarding others votes because they didn't line up with yours?

And those people are dumb?

Smh... Pretty arrogant.

[billhicks76]

93. Go Ahead Ignore Facts

It's not a bias. Look at how the South bites on everything from voter suppression to mass incarceration to minimum wage to WARS. Yeah. I actually hold choices against people that are wrong.

[Feeling the Bern]

36. Shhh. . .DUers in the South will flag this as regionalism. . .even though you're 100% correct.

[billhicks76]

94. Regionalism ?

Gotta be kidding. How petty. Guess we should shut up about the Souths ridiculous support for military intervention because of manners?

[Feeling the Bern]

105. I've seen posts flagged and hidden because southerners get their knickers in a twist

when you point out the truths about Dixie.

Their favorite is "you seem to think the south is the great big monolith."

[billhicks76]

107. So Correct Me They Should

Especially since I'm referring to party leaders not people and mostly republicans. But argument is healthy. Flagging everything is so stupid. Each person should be allowed only 3 flags per month. I think I've flagged once in years.

[former9thward]

132. People in the north love to region bash the south

and ignore their own backyard. Chicago is and has been the most segregated city in the nation for decades. But that is ok since it is deep blue.

[Feeling the Bern]

142. Considering I am from Arizona, that makes me being from the "north" a rather idiotic thing to say

Considering before I moved overseas I live 60 miles from the Mexican border. . .well, I would think I am more south than you.

Oh, and Arizona supported the confederacy during the Civil War as well.

My backyard? Segregation racism against native Americans and Mexicans, Mormon theocracy and Barry Goldwater.

I'll bash the south as much as I bash my home state of Arizona.

[former9thward]

144. In your zeal to bash you don't even know the

history of your "home" state.

Arizona supported the confederacy during the Civil War as well. No, not really. Not only was Arizona not a state in the Civil War, it was not even a territory during Civil War operations in the West. What is now AZ was part of the New Mexico territory and it was very scarcely populated so your claim is BS. Lincoln only made AZ a territory after military operations in the West ended.

I currently live in Phoenix and I am unaware of "segregation" against Natives. Are you referring to the Rez? You do know, they are federal creations which the state has nothing to do with. Chicago is far more segregated than any city in AZ.

[Feeling the Bern]

146. Way to talk down to a published historian, buddy.

You don't know segregation of natives? Look up Navajo long march. Look up Bosque Redondo. Look to "integration order of TUSD."

Look up Battle of Picacho Peak (spelling) and look up Arizona sentiment during Civil War.

Then leave that cultural vaccum of Maricopa County and head to the Arizona State Museum on the University of Arizona and learn something. . .maybe you should look at the Camp Grant Massacre. Then when you are done, spend your time reading the doctoral dissertations on record at the UA that dictate the exact attitudes of Arizonans during the Civil War.

While you are there, spend a little time reading the scholastic papers on segregation in Arizona. Sorry, I'll believe PhDs who do original, verifiable research over some internet poster that insults someone they know nothing about due to their haughty, aloof, overinflated opinion of their own self-worth.

Next time, learn about someone before you insult their academic and scholastic background.

You are dismissed. Class is over!

BTW, if you want to see my publications, they are at Nanjing University as I am getting my Johns Hopkins PhD there through a joint educational agreement between the two universities.

[former9thward]

147. Published historian. LOL

At Nanjing University no less. How convenient. I schooled you on your untrue claims about AZ and the Civil War. I notice you could not answer any of them.

[Feeling the Bern]

149. You just proved everything. I am considering the source. Dismissed, ignored and in the pit.

Have a nice life.

[safeinOhio]

41. Get out of the city in most

Northern states and it's a lot more like the South. I've lived in the South and rural and urban North.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

57. There's a lot of 'south' in Ohio. nt

[billhicks76]

95. True

[JesterCS]

111. Good thing is, those areas

Are sparsely populated, I wonder about city of Columbus and Cincinnati. Cleveland most likely will go Bernie.

[malthaussen]

120. Yes, and they don't call my state "Pennsyltucky" for nothing.

Coincidentally, my brother lives in Kentucky.

-- Mal

[PaulaFarrell]

103. would that be Massachusetts-born Bush sr. or

The Connecticut-born Bush Jr that gave us the wars in the ME you're referring to?

[NobodyHere]

24. Makes me all the more glad I voted for him tonight.

[magical thyme]

34. thank you for voting!!!!!

every vote matters!

[Champion Jack]

26. Great News

[Gregorian]

31. Woo motherfucking hoo!

[magical thyme]

32. WOOHOO!

[roamer65]

35. Tough choice for me after the debate in Flint on Sunday night.

But I got up this AM and decided my vote was with Bernie.

[tomm2thumbs]

43. very cool

I was with Hillary at first.

Then supported O'Malley

Then saw a bad interview with him, and a rally with Bernie, and never looked back.

[saltpoint]

38. I'm glad Bernie won. I'm glad Democrats turned

out to support Democratic candidates.

They had candidates running strong races in each of the Democrats' campaigns.

The media are all having to change their pants with the results, but the voters in Michigan said, "You know, that Sanders guy talks about stuff that happens day to day in the real world, and how much it costs, and how hard it is for some of us to get by."

Enough of them, and many new voters, and plenty of independents, and a boatload of other folks too, showed up today and voted for Bernie Sanders.

[tomm2thumbs]

39. ••• B O O M ••••••

what more can one say -- that was a shockwave moment

[MuseRider]

45. And the beat goes on...

and on and on

He did it and here we go.

[MelSC]

48. Congratulations to Bernie Supporters

nt

[shireen]

80. thanks

and congrats to Hillary for Mississippi.

[safeinOhio]

51. All the polls were wrong

per, MSNBC just now.

Please no more quoting close polls.

[ananda]

52. Michigan .. finally coming to its senses.

Maybe some other states will follow.

[SoapBox]

53. It ain't over...on to the Convention!

Go Bernie!

Go Berners!

Donation time!

[maryallen]

55. Yay!!!

Way to go, Bern!

[JDPriestly]

56. Congratulations Bernie and all my dear fellow Berniebro.

[NHprogressive]

58. Close one, but good news for us given the polls even yesterday

They were 52-47 Clinton-Bernie just a day or two before the vote. Now we just need to keep this up everywhere else.. send the campaign money if you can.

[jalan48]

61. Woof! Woof!

[Aldo Leopold]

63. YES!

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!

[Kip Humphrey]

65. TYT: MI, the BIGGEST UPSET in primary history!

just another record!

WIN! Bernie WIN!

[Zorra]

141. +1

[polly7]

68. I was just hovering my mouse over the map ........ he was within 3-5%

points of winning every county - only 9 (out of 83?) he lost, except for two - Saginaw (which was still very close) and Wayne. Very interesting to watch. He did really well. Congratulations!

[iandhr]

69. Congratulations from a Hillary supporter

[shireen]

82. Congratulations on winning Mississippi

[840high]

83. Thank you.

[renate]

99. thank you!

And congratulations on Mississippi!

[YOHABLO]

140. Yes, thank you. At some point soon we will have to come together.

[Half-Century Man]

70. TYT claims Bernie captured 30% of the African American vote

I do not have a link, was said in passing at the end of show.

[metalbot]

117. That's the number by Nate Silver

You can find his state by state breakdown of AA voters in his Tuesday 10:41 post on the live primary coverage page.

[shireen]

72. i had been worried about this all day

The polls showed her ahead, and I was feeling sad that he might lose Michigan. Hearing this good news is a wonderful feeling.

I don't know how all this is going to turn out. I hope with all my heart that he wins the nomination.

But I also want more people to get to know this profoundly good decent human being that many of us have grown to love. He is a treasure.

[NJCher]

88. now we need to throw all the money changers off the steps of the Capitol

But I also want more people to get to know this profoundly good decent human being that many of us have grown to love. He is a treasure.

If he is the president, can you imagine what it going to be like--having this one decent person in DC, surrounded by all the money-grubbing scumbags that make up our government?

Next up: them. Because the contrast is just too great.



Cher

[Duckfan]

74. The bar is open!!!!

For everyone who contributed and worked their butts off.
This is for you!!!

[840high]

75. Bernie!

[Bayard]

77. LOVE-IN' IT!!!!

Sincerely.

So now, someone who knows about such things, please explain to me what delegates Bernie will have to win next week to be over the top? Likelihood of taking OH, PA? Its wonderful that he's taking the popular vote, but where can he make up the delegate count?

[closeupready]

78. yeah, but WAIT! Hillary is polling at 357000% of every remaining contest.

So Bernie should resign, right now!

[zentrum]

86. And he's had

…to fight the Establishment, the media grey-out, the lack of early name recognition, the sneers about socialism.

I agree with Van Jones—this is really because the people are waking up and have had enough. It's not a Bernie campaign. It's a People's campaign. Finally a candidate who is really for us.

Obama opened the door as much as he could. And now we should start walking through it.

[mountain grammy]

87. I'm off to bed now!

Sweet dreams, everyone! Go Bernie!

[C Moon]

90. Woo hoo! Unemployed (full time) for far too long...donated $20 +$3 tip to Code Blue after this news.

Go Bernie!!!
Go Bernie!!!
Go Bernie!!!

[Gene Debs]

91. God, just for right now I wish I hadn't been banned from the Hillary Clinton group.

[romanic]

92. Woohoo!!!!

So proud of my state tonight.

[Cavallo]

96. Are there winner speeches? I want to see them!

Both. And, THANK YOU MICHIGAN!!!!!!!!

[Cavallo]

97. And, I want to donate to Bernie right now- again. Will someone post a link again?

[urbuddha]

101. So happy Bernie won !!!!!!! WooHoo !!!~ Every Bernie supporter needs to do their part. Make him win!

We all need to do the very best we can so Bernie wins this election.

[Lil Missy]

104. Congrats to Sanders Supporters!

Well, I'll be damned ......

[Old Vet]

106. First, congratulations to the bernie supporters..............

personally I will end up voting for Clinton or Bernie, My issue is my heart supports Bernie but those fucking super-delegates is a bridge to far.

[myrna minx]

108. Yay!

[FrodosPet]

116. Next week is another challenge

But today we dance!

[malthaussen]

123. What, no GiFs from Michigan State?

That would actually be more appropriate, as a land-grant university.

-- Mal

[FrodosPet]

126. An unfortunate ommission

They are harder to find.

[azurnoir]

109. yay bernie

[TBF]

113. Front page of the NYTimes -

Earlier in the day I had emailed them (I have a web/phone subscription because I used to live on the East coast & prefer it as my home page) - I thanked them for separating the superdelegates out from the actual voting delegate count.

[thucythucy]

114. Yaaaaaahoooooo!!!!!!! nt

[malthaussen]

118. Well, that was unexpected.

I'll be fascinated to see how this one is spun.

-- Mal

[bemildred]

119. Were Black Voters in Michigan Afraid to Oppose Clinton in Polls?

Here's one ...

As pollsters and data analysts struggle to explain how Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) overcame a 30-point-plus deficit to defeat Hillary Clinton in the Michigan primary on Tuesday, one possible factor that has been neglected is the “reverse Bradley effect” — the possibility that black voters were reluctant to tell pollsters they opposed Clinton.

The “Bradley effect” refers to the theory that white voters might lie to pollsters about supporting a black candidate, then vote against that candidate in the privacy of the voting booth. It is thought to explain Tom Bradley’s surprise defeat in the 1982 race for California governor against George Deukmejian — though the Deukmejian camp points to his big lead in the absentee vote as the real reason, since Bradley, L.A.’s first black mayor, won on Election Day.

In Michigan, polls consistently showed Clinton with a big double-digit lead against Sanders, right up until the last week before the primary. There were no obvious controversies about remarks the candidates made in the last two debates, which were held by CNN on Sunday evening and by Fox News on Monday afternoon (though Fox grilled Clinton on her emails and on the question of abortion, which previous moderators from other networks had not).

There were no obvious clues in exit polls. One theory for the shift, posed by Carl Bialik of fivethirtyeight.com, is that Clinton voters assumed she would win and crossed over to vote against Trump. But that wave should have showed up more dramatically in the GOP vote.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/09/reverse-bradley-effect-may-explain-sanders-win/

[malthaussen]

121. I prefer arguments about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin...

... although I will admit that I have come to believe that a good portion of people who respond to polls are just trolling. It might be, on a serious note, that the errors in methodology are more prevalent in heavily-urbanized areas (especially the problem concerning land-lines and wireless telephony). Perhaps the old, reliable samples are not representative of the voting populace as a whole.

Then there's turnout... apparently, Michigan's was pretty substantial.

-- Mal

[bemildred]

122. I always lie to pollsters, the last thing you want to do is help them get it right.

It's not like they are on your side or something, far from it.

[malthaussen]

125. Michigan is an open primary, right?

How many of those votes for Bernie were stealth Republicans voting for the candidate the GOP apparently prefers to run against? That one should have legs. It would help address the turnout question, too, since the Republicans have been dominating that statistic.

-- Mal

[bemildred]

128. One analysis:

WTF Happened to Hillary Clinton in Michigan, Explained

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How did the polls get it so wrong?

Michigan is an open primary, meaning that independents can vote – and on either party's ballot. That makes the final composition of the electorate impossible to predict, and can make pollsters look foolish when the returns come in.

As far as Democratic Party voters go, the polls had it about right: Clinton won among self-described Democrats by a margin of 16 points (57-41), according to the exit poll.

What was unforeseen was Sander's strength among independents, who made up 28 percent of the electorate. The socialist won this cohort in a landslide, 71-28.

Sanders’ “political revolution” had been roundly pooh-poohed after his poor performances in the Deep South. We saw a taste of it on Tuesday night – and not just among independents. Turnout among young voters was also stunning: More voters under 30 showed up at the polls than did voters over 65.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/wtf-happened-to-hillary-clinton-in-michigan-explained-20160309

[malthaussen]

130. Oh, that's very bad news for Mrs Clinton if it marks a trend.

Independents outnumber Democrats these days.

Interesting though, when we think of DU: one might expect most here self-identify as Democrats, yet there are more Bernie supporters. More proof that we are in a bubble, here.

-- Mal

[bemildred]

131. I think of DU as sort of a stew these days, a hash.

A mix of anti-authoritariians and their pro-authority wannabe minders and various casual observers and trolls and people amusing themselves like us.

The notion that this is an arm of the Democratic Party doesn't hold up.

Yes, if that trend holds up, it's not good for either of the mainstream parties.

[yellowcanine]

129. Not sure there is much evidence that kind of stuff happens on a large scale.

To me the more likely explanation is that a lot of true independents and possibly Republicans unhappy with the choices on that side went for Bernie. There have got to be a lot of Republicans who don't want to vote for Trump or Cruz and they don't see Rubio or Kasich being able to win so they look elsewhere.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

150. I got called by pollsters 4 times last week.

within a few questions, it was apparent they weren't "legitimate" pollsters, but partisan "push" pollsters.

End of call.

[bemildred]

151. I just stopped answering. But when I do, I lie. nt

[closeupready]

133. Speaking of which ...

@ 15 seconds:

[Amimnoch]

135. Congratulations. Time for you all to expand your vision though!

First, I want to extend a heartfelt congratulations to Sanders supporters for a very stunning upset in Michigan last night! You worked your asses off to make that happen. You turned out the vote. There is much for you to be proud of. Personally, I don't impress easily when it comes to primaries traditionally... last night was impressive.


On another note though, Super Tuesday 2.0 is coming up next week.

Florida
Illinois
Missouri
North Carolina
Ohio

Big numbers.

As your candidates prospects rise.. please.. Please.. PLEASE.. PLEASE! use your momentum to start getting the Senator some of the support he will NEED if he does win to make that ambitious agenda possible!

Ref:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MZGzbSWESE8t18GGzrgc2FfL0b5tz-vmNf-F_-w5yN4/htmlview

In Florida:
*you have Alan Grayson running for Senate, a Sanders endorsement and aligned with Sanders policies. Highly recommend getting him on your radar with your turn out the vote for Bernie.
*you have Tim Canova in US house district 23. He's in a Primary against Doug Hughes. Get him some exposure and support from the Bernie Campaign.
*You have Juan Xuna in the 18th district. He's in the Primary against 2 other Democrats.

In Illinois:
*you have Marcus Lewis, running against 2 others in the Primary.

In Missouri:
* you have Cory Bush for the Senate. He needs your help in the Primary then STRONG help in the GE to knock out Roy Blunt the Republican incumbent.

North Carolina
* You have John McNeil, a progressive activist primarying against Ron Sanyal for house district 13. This one has SOO many wins for you as Ron is a Pharmaceutical executive, AND if you can get him in you have a chance of knocking out George Holding from the incumbency side. -1 R in the house +1 D in the House!!

In Ohio:
* you have Janet Garett.. teacher and ex teachers union local president.. She's being primaried with 2 other Democrat candidates in the 4th district. this is another one that CAN be a -1 R in the house and another +1D.. IF you can get her through the primary AND knockout out Jim Jordan in the GE.
*you have Keith Mundy in House district 16. No primary for him, but support this man, he CAN beat Jim Renacci (R), and that can be another +/- 1 for us!
* You have Kelli Prather.. This one is a SENATE seat, AND a chance to knock out a Republican incumbent Rob Portman! A HUGE +1/-1 in that most critical chamber of Congress!!!

By now, you are probably asking yourselves "WHY the hell is a Hillary supporter going through this trouble??"

Because it is a win/win as far as I'm concerned! That's why.

If Hillary does win, showing this kind of momentum with getting progressives in Congress, plus the escalated and unanticipated challenge from Bernie himself will go a long way to keeping her on track to push progressive causes, and prevent her from becoming a 1 term president.

If this momentum for Bernie keeps up and keeps growing, and he does manage to pull off an upset and take the Democratic Party primary, then he will NEED these and so much more to make his agenda enter the realm of feasibility (It DOES still take a congress people!) It will also help ensure he gets the endorsements in his 2nd term run.

So for me, there is no downside in pushing this list!

Really Sanders people... you have GOT to start getting the people that have to make it with Bernie if you don't want him, if he does get the primary, to be a toothless tiger of a president.. give him the teeth (Senate), and claws (House of Representatives) he will need. You like to compare this election cycle to 08'? Well, let's make sure he (or Hillary) have a congress that keeps those causes on track!!!

[Enthusiast]

136. Yay, Bernie! Yay, Bubzer!

[Sunlei]

143. Now? Mrs. Clinton? Team-up with Senator Sanders now.

"Let the Primary voters decide who will be the VP.

[warrprayer]

145. I'm Bernin' for YOU!

[humbled_opinion]

148. Amazing.... Amazing... Amazing...

Here's too many, many more future upsets....:cheers: