Clinton: Iran Should Face Sanctions For Ballistic Missile Tests
Source: The Hill
By Kristina Wong - 03/09/16 01:28 PM EST
Hillary Clinton says Iran should face sanctions after reportedly carrying out ballistic missile tests.
"I am deeply concerned by reports that Iran has tested multiple missiles, which it claimed were stamped with words declaring that 'Israel should be wiped from the pages of history,'" said the Democratic presidential candidate in a statement Wednesday.
"This rhetoric is repulsive and has no place in the community of nations, and as President I will continue to stand with Israel against such threats," she continued.
"Iran should face sanctions for these activities, and the international community must demonstrate that Iran's threats toward Israel will not be tolerated."
Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/defense/272387-clinton-calls-for-new-iran-sanctions-after-ballistic-missile-testing
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)We haven't finished the last 2 wars.
LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)What is your suggestion?
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)That is war and borders on genocide.
My suggestion would be to keep the irascible warhawk Mrs. Clinton as far away from the levers of power as possible.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Funny how that works.
ozone_man
(4,825 posts)is not an exaggeration. A stroke of the pen, a vote for the Iraq war, support of "moderate" CIA sponsored terrorists in Syria, ... Democrats are just as lethal as Republicans, though their ways are a bit more subtle.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)She's hardly kissing Israel's ass to point out these idiotic displays
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)to Israel for as long as I've been alive. Israel is doing blatantly illegal & immoral shit & needs to knock it off. It's no wonder neighboring countries have a low tolerance for their bullshit & drama.
7962
(11,841 posts)Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt. None of them spend their days threatening them or "preparing for an attack" by them. For years they've lived side by side. Maybe its because they all know Israel could kick their ass, but they still get along.
But Iran is a different story because they're still wanting to join the nuclear club.
Certainly you can back the losers in the region all you want.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)In case you haven't noticed they love to start shit but when ppl push back they run to us for help.
7962
(11,841 posts)Israel has proven many times that they can defeat Arab invaders on their own. Sure, they use our equipment, but if you're unable to handle it its useless
I'd rather back them than a bunch of savages
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)with the hearty fuck you to President Obama that missile test with the message to wipe out Israel (written in Hebrew) gave our President, I'm not.
7962
(11,841 posts)Cant exactly claim it to be an accident by some unruly kid when its THAT specific
Cavallo
(348 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Iran cant help but show its true colors every chance it gets
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)if it turns out to be a mess?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Years and years of diplomatic work with Iran.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Poor oppressed Iran, those hard talking meanie diplomats.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)HRC listed her work as a major accomplishment...Iran doesn't seem willing to abide by the agreement.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Mrs. Clinton as SOS wasn't a 'rogue warrior' making up the rules herself.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)will it quietly go the way of her Libyan adventure, never to be mentioned again or will it become similar to her Iraq War vote where she was bamboozled or the final product wasn't what she was working for.
Cavallo
(348 posts)with Iran if they even seem like they have obtained a weapon:
Hillary Clinton breaks with Obama, threatens war to enforce Iran deal
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/9/hillary-clinton-threatens-war-enforce-iran-deal/?page=3
She's been threatening nuclear war with them over Israel for 8 years:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24246275/ns/msnbc-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/t/clinton-warns-iran-us-nuclear-response/
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Iran is pretty much at a crossroads now. Peace with their neighbors or lash out big and return to the 15th century. China would hate to lose Iran, one of their biggest trade customers.
America voted in Bush and gang, not one elected Congress member /Senator walked away in 'protest', did any more then just talk, yes or no vote & move on. They're all responsible for letting Bush/Cheney "bamboozle" the American people.
Cavallo
(348 posts)She didn't wax being for it until it looked popular in the polls.
Within 1 week of it's signing she was trying to break it again.
google. Oh she also threatened war with Iran over it if they even look like they're not following it.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)I know it's Wednesday but I assumed it was still on that list
Cavallo
(348 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Cavallo
(348 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)The missile launch DID NOT violate the nuclear deal! Talk about speaking out of your ass!
Good call, Commander!
starroute
(12,977 posts)The original story from Iran's Fars News Agency referred to two missiles, one of which had the words written on it in Hebrew. (http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13941219000355)
Now any number of sources are claiming that both missiles had the phrase "stamped," "branded," or "etched" into them. And that's the story Clinton seems to be repeating.
There's a big difference. The first story suggests a one-off insult. The second implies that the entire run of manufacturing including an anti-Israeli phrase stamped onto every missile with official authorization. And of course it's the second version that Clinton is pushing.
I'd like to see someone get to the bottom of this. I know of no original source for the story besides the Fars account -- and of no source at all for the enhanced version. And that seems important.
NickB79
(19,253 posts)When do the sanctions against India begin?
7962
(11,841 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)She is itching to carry on the PNAC agenda and make Iran a new enemy. Meanwhile the business community looks forward to more trade. Her friends Robert Kagan and Henry Kissinger have a lot riding on her campaign. Vote Bernie.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)in response to a question about hypothetical Iranian aggression towards Israel.
Hawks gonna hawk.
6chars
(3,967 posts)which Obama promised would be enforced when pushing the nuclear deal with Iran. But that was so long ago, the details are lost to history, I guess. It's a he-said she-said situation.
From the OP link about Iran's missiles:
That action comes despite a United Nations Security Council resolution calling upon Iran to refrain from such tests and follows U.S. sanctions earlier this year.
Obama administration officials say they want to determine whether the tests violated international laws before bringing the issue up before the U.N. Security Council.
Clinton said the missile launches constitute a "blatant violation of Iran's UN Security Council obligations, and such violations must have consequences."
Cavallo
(348 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)Then we shouldn't play dumb. Hillary is right. The whole deal was justified on the basis of vigorous enforcement of other existing restrictions. They are now saying "hey we got the deal, screw that, we are moving toward intercontinental missiles ready to send nukes as soon as we announce our breakout" just like wasn't supposed to happen. Yes, caving on this would be appeasement.
Cavallo
(348 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)Iran test-launched a series of ballistic missiles Wednesday in an exercise that dramatized Tehrans determination to bolster its arsenal in the aftermath of last years nuclear accord.
The Obama administration labeled the missile launches provocative, but said the firings did not violate the terms of last years nuclear deal between Iran and world powers, including the United States.
Iran regularly showcases its homegrown missile program as a proclaimed deterrent against attack by Israel, its longtime regional adversary.
The semiofficial Fars News Agency reported that one of a pair of Qadr H missiles named after a Koranic verse was inscribed with the phrase Israel should be wiped off the Earth, a stock slogan for years among hard-liners in Iran. The missiles were fired in the nations Alborz mountain range, the agency said.
http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-iran-missiles-20160309-story.html
6chars
(3,967 posts)The nuclear deal did not end all obligations for Iran. It was narrowly defined in particular with respect to changing conditions about particular nuclear related issues, e.g., centfuges, inspections, enriched uranium, fissile materials. So of course this does not violate that deal, it violates other conditions whose continued enforcement the President was touting as part of his case for why the deal was so low risk.
Saying this does not violate the nuclear agreement is word play. It violates other conditions already extant. I didn't and Hillary didn't claim it violates the nuclear deal. That is a strawman.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)I'm sure they must have missed that part during the negotiations.
6chars
(3,967 posts)and why Israel was made safer etc. I certainly hope those statements about vigilance were made with sincere intent. The White House may be choosing to look the other way in spite of the prior strong talk because they don't want the hassle now that they've got the deal to claim. I hope this is not the case.
Full disclosure, I do not support Iran's religious dictatorship government.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)You still need to write them a letter, I can't fix it.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Israel and Allies.
edited to make it clear, Iran would be the loser.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)North Korea does this stuff on a daily basis. Why are we not threatening them? We just reached an agreement with Iran. Are we trying to undermine it? The Republicans would love that.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)No need to go back to sanctions over some nasty rhetoric. Multiple Israeli officials have advocated for genocide. We don't take harmful action based just on words, and Iran testing missiles isn't breaking the deal we have with them according to our own president. While Iran was being counterproductive and unhelpful, rash escalation is not the right answer to this.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)She has absolutely no clue what's behind this, does she?
And no desire to find out. She's just itching to start a war and rake in some more of that nice green AIPAC cash.