Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

nvme

(860 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:16 PM Mar 2016

Debbie Wasserman Schultz's Opponent, Tim Canova, Is Denied Access to Democrats' Voter File

Source: The New Times (Broward/Palm Beach)

"{Florida congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz serves as chair of the Democratic National Committee.
As such, she's supposed to support Democratic candidates for office at all levels of government.

Tim Canova, a law professor at Nova Southeastern University who is running against Wasserman Schultz for her seat in Congress, found out that he is blocked from accessing DNC voter data, even though he's a Democrat.

A state party executive told him last Friday that anyone running against an incumbent is not allowed to access that data. A committee spokesperson, Max Steele, confirmed to New Times via email that the Florida Democratic Party does not offer data access "to candidates challenging incumbent members of Florida’s Democratic congressional delegation.

This policy has been applied uniformly across the board since 2010. We stand with our incumbent members of Congress and we’re proud of the job they do representing the people of Florida. The Voter File is proprietary software created and owned by the Democratic National Committee that is maintained and operated by the Florida Democratic Party here in state."Canova, who lives in Hollywood, Florida, announced his run for office in January. He has basically usurped Sanders' platform: Canova claims Wasserman Schultz has been corrupted by corporate donations. He is funding his campaign largely through small donations. If elected, he hopes to reform the nation's largest banks.}"

Read more: http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/debbie-wasserman-schultzs-opponent-tim-canova-is-denied-access-to-democrats-voter-file-7652217



It is unconscionable, for the Democratic Party of Florida to prevent a candidate from access to voter rolls. I understand endorsement by party officials, but disallowing a candidate voter information that is vital is simply undemocratic!
68 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Debbie Wasserman Schultz's Opponent, Tim Canova, Is Denied Access to Democrats' Voter File (Original Post) nvme Mar 2016 OP
Donate to Democratic Underground for Tim Canova FL-23 HERE (and today's letter) Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #1
I donated yesterday. Replacing Wasserman-Schultz should be a priority here. Auggie Mar 2016 #12
Good for you. You're zentrum Mar 2016 #23
Are there no limits to her abuse of power? SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #62
I donated under DU emsimon33 Mar 2016 #57
To beat us all they have to do is Faux pas Mar 2016 #2
he has access to public "voter rolls"...just not ones that are processed by the party nt msongs Mar 2016 #3
The party should not nvme Mar 2016 #8
Pay Day lender supporter DWS nvme Mar 2016 #10
Exactly. This is just a nonissue... scscholar Mar 2016 #26
The party voter database has a ton of valuable information about voters csziggy Mar 2016 #52
I read somewhere that he's a Democrat. Am I missing something? SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #63
Yay! He's finally getting news coverage. Gregorian Mar 2016 #4
This sucks but I would expect no less from the LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #5
I'm not condoning it, but for clarification, he can get access to the voter rolls from the State Orangepeel Mar 2016 #6
Nothing like Conflict of Interest! Same in NJ, denying Alex Law access against party bosses son! TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #7
Norcross... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #19
I knew something like this would happen. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #9
The DNC Chair Plucketeer Mar 2016 #11
Must go, from both positions.. appalachiablue Mar 2016 #22
since you put it that way! nvme Mar 2016 #29
All Progressive $$$ Should Go To Canova billhicks76 Mar 2016 #13
"Florida breeds many DINOs" Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #44
Are you talking about Patrick Murphy? n/t Kermitt Gribble Mar 2016 #53
who enacted the law? DWS?? or someone else n/t PatrynXX Mar 2016 #14
designed to protect blue dogs from being primaried by liberals TeamPooka Mar 2016 #21
It is not a law. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #36
dws is just embarassing herself now. nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #15
Just contributed! This is OUTRAGEOUS! Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #16
Not surprised. blackspade Mar 2016 #17
she's vile renate Mar 2016 #18
Does anyone give the DNC money anymore? TeamPooka Mar 2016 #20
Not me. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #24
No. I had my name removed from their contact list, too. Kittycat Mar 2016 #28
Someone must, otherwise they would not have been able to create a database which Mr. Canova wants Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #38
Just sayin'... maddogesq Mar 2016 #25
^ I approve of this message. eom StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #43
And I approve of yours re: Bernie! maddogesq Mar 2016 #65
This primary isn't until August! SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #27
K&R. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #30
It's gotten so that the DNC will have to decide bvf Mar 2016 #31
A not so democratic Democratic Party. hay rick Mar 2016 #32
she is pretty brazen yurbud Mar 2016 #33
The exact date of the contest between Shultz and Canova is August 30..still time to donate. Stuart G Mar 2016 #34
How would folks feel if a primary challenge was mounted from the right to an incumbent progressive? onenote Mar 2016 #35
Ditto LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #37
Oy vey! Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #40
If Jim Webb decided to primary a progressive incumbent Democrat onenote Mar 2016 #45
So now he is a disrupter? Thanks for playing. Rex Mar 2016 #47
Who is a disrupter? You need to work on reading comprehension onenote Mar 2016 #49
How pathetic right? Rex Mar 2016 #48
Mr. Canova has been a registered Democrat for less than one year Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #39
any links to that accusation? nt bonniebgood Mar 2016 #41
He was regestered as NPA (No party affiliation) as of May 31, 2015 Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #42
So you actively are telling people not to participate in the Dem process? Rex Mar 2016 #50
Unless he is a rapist, murderer, or pedophile Funtatlaguy Mar 2016 #51
Are you ok with Patrick Murphy accessing that data? n/t Kermitt Gribble Mar 2016 #54
As long as he is not trying to unseat a Democratic incumbent Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #55
So you're a hypocrite, then? Kermitt Gribble Mar 2016 #67
What is it with Florida dems? I know we have some good ones here on DU. Rex Mar 2016 #46
PLEASE send Canova money to defeat DWS emsimon33 Mar 2016 #56
We need to re-name the Party: The un-Democratic Party or the Ironic Party emsimon33 Mar 2016 #58
Kick for awareness PoliticalMalcontent Mar 2016 #59
Hummm...isn't that criminal? avaistheone1 Mar 2016 #60
DWS and the whole Democratic establishment nyabingi Mar 2016 #61
Way to absolutely end donations from voters to the DNC. mahina Mar 2016 #64
Horrible abuse of power Lakerstan Mar 2016 #66
So why doesn't he go get it from the county... Historic NY Mar 2016 #68

Omaha Steve

(99,624 posts)
1. Donate to Democratic Underground for Tim Canova FL-23 HERE (and today's letter)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:44 PM - Edit history (2)


The DU is in 4th place by $ raised for Tim. Live list here: https://secure.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/42087


Donate: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4timcanova




zentrum

(9,865 posts)
23. Good for you. You're
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:37 PM
Mar 2016

….so right. She needs to go, but controls the process of her own re-election. How blatantly corrupt can it get?

Right now, all my money is still going to Bernie, but will try to help Canova soon

nvme

(860 posts)
8. The party should not
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:46 PM
Mar 2016

exclude access to the Democratic party's information to another Democratic candidate whether they are are incumbent or challenger. So long as it is it not from the opposing political party one should have access. Obviously I am no DWS fan. Yes i did contribute to Canova's campaign.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
26. Exactly. This is just a nonissue...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:52 PM
Mar 2016

that someone is trying to make into an issue even though it is a nonissue and should stay a nonissue unlike all of the really issues we should be talking about.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
52. The party voter database has a ton of valuable information about voters
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:41 PM
Mar 2016

That is not included in the publicly available voter info. The Democratic database has been building information on voters since prior to 2008 and has become an important tool for candidates to focus their efforts.

Every Democratic candidate should have access to that information. If the party does not want to share it with every candidate prior to the primaries, then NO candidate should have access before then. After the primaries, the official nominees should have access.

But the implication in this story is that one candidate has access while another does not during the primaries - that is what is unfair.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
63. I read somewhere that he's a Democrat. Am I missing something?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016

So It's OK for the chairwoman of the Democratic Party to abuse her position for her own gain?

Even Pete Rose never bet against his own team.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
4. Yay! He's finally getting news coverage.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:32 PM
Mar 2016

I'm in no position to donate, but he got some of my moola.

It's establishment war on what should be the core of the fucking party. Pardon my French.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
5. This sucks but I would expect no less from the
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:33 PM
Mar 2016

party machine. So no incumbent should ever be challenged, no matter how incompetent or corrupt? Who the hell's party is this anyway?

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
6. I'm not condoning it, but for clarification, he can get access to the voter rolls from the State
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:42 PM
Mar 2016

Board of Elections. What the DNC has is a software program that makes utilizing that information easier.

There do have to be checks on it. I understand why the party wouldn't want to give access to proprietary software to anybody who files papers. A lot of crazy people run for office. But I don't agree that incumbents should be able to build a wall around it either.

TheBlackAdder

(28,190 posts)
7. Nothing like Conflict of Interest! Same in NJ, denying Alex Law access against party bosses son!
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:43 PM
Mar 2016

.


In NJ, Alex Law is running for congress against South Jersey Party Boss George Norcross III's son.

U.S. Rep. Donald Norcross


This is rampant abuse of power to keep party elites in power!


===


Have you encountered any obstructionism to your campaign from the Democratic Party establishment?

Repeated obstruction.

Here's one story: I couldn't find a single instance of the Dems in NJ denying a fellow Dem access to the NGP database (I'm sure there have been, I just couldn't find a single instance and I really looked). Essentially, they sell their voter data system below market value for roughly 3k. They denied me access, which means if I wanted to buy it straight from NGP it would have been more than 10k. Luckily, my social media supporters made such a commotion about it that the CEO of NationBuilder and the CEO of L2 Voter Mapping stepped in and got me access to L2's system (which is actually better than NGP ;P) for the same price that the state Dems were selling it at.

They are such bullies, it's wild. But, I don't scare easy!


https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/3v5m0i/im_alex_law_the_only_congressional_candidate_from/


===


http://politickernj.com/2016/01/alex-law-claims-he-was-stonewalled-by-camden-county-clerk/

http://politickernj.com/2016/02/alex-law-debates-rutgers-professor-on-value-of-anti-norcross-campaign/


It's the way the new Democrats have morphed into the New Republicans!


.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
19. Norcross...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:26 PM
Mar 2016

is a very powerful family here in NJ politics. His money is in most of NJ politicians bank accounts and has deep ties to the establishment politicians. They are evil.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
13. All Progressive $$$ Should Go To Canova
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:07 PM
Mar 2016

DWS should be made to dress like a Republican and paraded around the town square lol. She always was a fake from day one. Florida breeds many DINOs. Kick me Out at the polls.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
44. "Florida breeds many DINOs"
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:21 AM
Mar 2016

Such as the guy who has been a registered Democrat for less than a year but now wants access to the Democratic Party's database?

LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
36. It is not a law.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:19 AM
Mar 2016

The voter data is more than just the raw data. And it is maintained by the party. Campaigns don't have an automatic right to the data.

The restrictions have been in placed before DWS became chair.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
16. Just contributed! This is OUTRAGEOUS!
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:22 PM
Mar 2016

NO ONE RUNNING FOR OFFICE SHOULD BE DNC CHAIR!

This is so corrupt as to be unbelievable!

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
17. Not surprised.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:52 PM
Mar 2016

So much for democracy and an even playing field for all candidates.
I just proves that there is a thumb on the scale for those already riding the money train.

renate

(13,776 posts)
18. she's vile
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:59 PM
Mar 2016

I can't deny that I understand her motivation--it's pretty obvious--but to use her power like that is disgusting. I hope this backfires in a big way.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
27. This primary isn't until August!
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:55 PM
Mar 2016

I'd thought it was too late for my $$ to make any diff, but it isn't!

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
31. It's gotten so that the DNC will have to decide
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:21 PM
Mar 2016

between DWS and me.

If she's still at the helm come Philadelphia, I'm out.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
35. How would folks feel if a primary challenge was mounted from the right to an incumbent progressive?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:02 AM
Mar 2016

Would they be as outraged if that challenger wasn't given assistance by the party?

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
40. Oy vey!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:38 AM
Mar 2016

I swear to goddess . . .

This isn't about the primary challenge, it's about access to data that all Democratic Party candidates should have.

Are you guys being purposely obtuse or did you really not get the point of the OP?

onenote

(42,700 posts)
45. If Jim Webb decided to primary a progressive incumbent Democrat
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

I'd have no qualms about the party not giving him access to the same data given to the incumbent. If you don't have a hard and fast rule, you will end up with the party being forced to give assistance to any and all comers, even disrupters. So draw the line at incumbents.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
47. So now he is a disrupter? Thanks for playing.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:05 PM
Mar 2016

Weak. I guess you think some Dems are more worthy than others. Noted.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
49. Who is a disrupter? You need to work on reading comprehension
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:17 PM
Mar 2016

My point wasn't that any particular candidate is a disrupter. It's that if you don't draw a line somewhere, you will get disrupters. Capiche?

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
39. Mr. Canova has been a registered Democrat for less than one year
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:46 AM
Mar 2016

What's to stop him from using that data against Democrats when switches parties again?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
46. What is it with Florida dems? I know we have some good ones here on DU.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:03 PM
Mar 2016

It's hard to believe 200k dems voted for Bush in 2000...so hard to believe once you realize how hard the GOP cheated to win.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
58. We need to re-name the Party: The un-Democratic Party or the Ironic Party
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:25 PM
Mar 2016

This is disgusting! No wonder we can not dislodge incumbents! If anyone deserves to be defeated, it is DWS. She is a loathsome creature that sullies our Party and Obama has his hands bloody for keeping her. She is responsible for the defeats in 2014 and will be in 2016 if we can't overcome the cheating and the un-democratic "rules".

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
61. DWS and the whole Democratic establishment
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 06:54 PM
Mar 2016

has become so confident that they are untouchable that they aren't even trying to appear fair now.

They are saying "Kiss my ass" to many Democrats they are depending on and laughing in our faces.

I wish nothing but misery and suffering upon this woman and all those she supports.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Debbie Wasserman Schultz'...