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Eugene

(61,874 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 06:24 PM Mar 2016

Democrats see 'cracks' in Republican block of Merrick Garland confirmation

Source: The Guardian

Republican opposition to the nomination of a supreme court justice is crumbling now that the “stellar” Merrick Garland has been put forward, senate Democrats claimed on Thursday.

The Republican leadership is holding out against senate confirmation hearings or a vote after Barack Obama named Garland to replace conservative Justice Antonin Scalia, who died last month. Republican senators insist that the next president should make the selection.

But Chuck Schumer, Democratic senator for New York, said in response to a question from the Guardian on Thursday: “We are seeing cracks on the Republican side. About five or six members have agreed already to meet with the nominee and I think what happened is they saw how stellar the nominee was and they realised how bad it would be not to ... They’re feeling the heat and we believe we’ll see many more cracks over the next two weeks.”

Schumer and other Democratic senators addressed reporters outside the supreme court ahead of Garland’s first meetings on Capitol Hill on Thursday afternoon. He was due to make courtesy calls on Democrats Harry Reid and Patrick Leahy but not on Republicans.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/mar/17/merrick-garland-senate-hearing-republican-block-democrats-supreme-court



David Smith in Washington
Thursday 17 March 2016 19.10 GMT
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Democrats see 'cracks' in Republican block of Merrick Garland confirmation (Original Post) Eugene Mar 2016 OP
#4 mentioned on WADR on Bloomberg. proverbialwisdom Mar 2016 #1
"Stellar"- Merrick Garland KJG52 Mar 2016 #2
I simply don't think Obama would sell out women and those in the struggle for economic CTyankee Mar 2016 #5
I disagree, the "nowhere" man isn't a liberal or progressive KJG52 Mar 2016 #12
yes, he is more of a centrist but he has not chimed on on reproductive freedom. However, CTyankee Mar 2016 #20
Obama's support of TPP already demonstrates he'd sell out women and economic equality riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #22
They are obstructing! scscholar Mar 2016 #3
I'll bet the black bottom land Cryptoad Mar 2016 #4
That is definitely the case with Sanders as PONTUS! blackspade Mar 2016 #7
I'm not remotely happy with this nomination. blackspade Mar 2016 #6
Don't worry, you'll love the next two. greyl Mar 2016 #8
Why will I love the next two? blackspade Mar 2016 #10
I think it has something to with chess, or something stupid like that Skittles Mar 2016 #11
You think the Republicans would vote for a progressive? NobodyHere Mar 2016 #24
A typical no we can't response..... blackspade Mar 2016 #25
So in what scenario would Republicans vote for a progressive SC nominee? NobodyHere Mar 2016 #26
that's not the point. blackspade Mar 2016 #27
It's exactly the point NobodyHere Mar 2016 #28
you obviously do not understand how negotiations work blackspade Mar 2016 #29
Exactly what do you gain in negotiations by nominating a progressive? NobodyHere Mar 2016 #30
So what are you arguing for then? blackspade Mar 2016 #31
I'm talking about working with the system we have to get the best result. NobodyHere Mar 2016 #32
And what is the best result for the nation? blackspade Mar 2016 #33
Who advises senate Democrats?! jade3000 Mar 2016 #9
"Do your job" is simple, catchy and true! I think it's fine. lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #23
Oh Goody! Another corporate justice. I can't wait! jalan48 Mar 2016 #13
God-only-knows what's been promised away. mpcamb Mar 2016 #19
Oh goody! truebluegreen Mar 2016 #14
My senator Mark Kirk is one of them and it's because he fears losing to Duckworth riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #15
Obama picked a guy from Lincolnwood who went to Niles West High School alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #17
He already has. Said he'll meet with him. riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #18
Thanks Mr President SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #16
Whoopee. CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #21

KJG52

(70 posts)
2. "Stellar"- Merrick Garland
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 06:36 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:12 PM - Edit history (1)

A lawyer from a white shoe law firm, a "centrist," judge on one of the most conservative appellate courts in the 20th century, with no stated position on voting rights. campaign finance, environmental justice, work place fairness, equality for women, in fact, not "stellar," just another corporate drone. Another sell out of Democrats in the name of political expediency, and Obama's famed 11th dimensional chess ability...

CTyankee

(63,911 posts)
5. I simply don't think Obama would sell out women and those in the struggle for economic
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:13 PM
Mar 2016

equality for just a score for the SCOTUS. He did what he had to do in appointing a centrist who will doubtless turn more left once on the court. This is what happens and it will follow suit, I am convinced...

KJG52

(70 posts)
12. I disagree, the "nowhere" man isn't a liberal or progressive
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:06 PM
Mar 2016

and there is no guarantee of a "left turn" once he is on the court, as far as I know, he's a law and order Clintonite with a pro-business bent, which doesn't sound very "left," to me...

CTyankee

(63,911 posts)
20. yes, he is more of a centrist but he has not chimed on on reproductive freedom. However,
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:29 AM
Mar 2016

he seems to be more of a "stare decisus" guy so my guess is that he favors the outcome of Roe v. Wade...

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
4. I'll bet the black bottom land
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:07 PM
Mar 2016

he will be the most conservative justice the GOP will have a chance to confirms for the next 8 years

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
6. I'm not remotely happy with this nomination.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:16 PM
Mar 2016

The repubs are going to get their pro-business conservative.
This is such a wasted opportunity to put an actual progressive on the SCOTUS.
Bummer.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
10. Why will I love the next two?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:27 PM
Mar 2016

Unless Sanders wins, it will be more triangulating corporatists nominated to the bench.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
25. A typical no we can't response.....
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:09 PM
Mar 2016

So I guess we will just continue to do what the rethugs want then.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
27. that's not the point.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:15 PM
Mar 2016

The point is that you don't start a negotiation on your opponents terms.
How is that hard to understand?

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
29. you obviously do not understand how negotiations work
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:22 PM
Mar 2016

especially when your opponents suck as bad as the Republicans.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
30. Exactly what do you gain in negotiations by nominating a progressive?
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016

Republicans would vote the nominee down and would be applauded for it. It doesn't exactly move the needle our way.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
32. I'm talking about working with the system we have to get the best result.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:05 PM
Mar 2016

Tell me what nominating a progressive judge would accomplish at this point? How would it help negotiations?

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
33. And what is the best result for the nation?
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

Another center right corporatist judge? No thanks.
The point of a negotiation is to start with with your most favored position and then work toward your opponents position.
NOT to start with your opponents likely negotiated position and work towards their most favored position.
The 'pragmatism' that has infected the Democratic Party via 'liberal' Repigs, that set up shop in the 90's, has led to a system of appeasement that has created a political death spiral for the American electorate while enriching our corporate and political classes. The Democrats in DC don't negotiate anymore, they triangulate to a position favorable to the GOP.
I had hoped that Obama would make a principled stance and nominate a liberal to the court to start with, but that seems to not be the case. He chose a nominee that the GOP actually would like to have on the bench.
Now he could go more liberal with the next nominee, but I'm afraid he will go further right on the next round.

I guess we will see.

jade3000

(238 posts)
9. Who advises senate Democrats?!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

So the senate Democrats have an excellent argument against the Republicans -- don't play politics with the Supreme Court nomination, instead do your job and have confirmation hearings and vote. It's a simple, straightforward, powerful position. It may get the nominee through, get some votes for Dems in November, or both.

Next thing I see ... Senate Democrats are grandstanding behind at a press conference behind a sign shating "America says to senate Republicans: Do Your Job"

How stupid can you get? The whole argument is to NOT play politics with the Supreme Court, and you right away play politics in such an obvious way with a blatant visual that can be easily turned against the Dems.

Argh!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. "Do your job" is simple, catchy and true! I think it's fine.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 10:10 AM
Mar 2016

And while we're at it, I believe the Department of Treasury writes the paychecks for these goldbricking Senators. DOT is Executive Branch, and therefore could be ordered to stop writing those paychecks

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
19. God-only-knows what's been promised away.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:54 PM
Mar 2016

And who are the 5-6 who're 'cracking' and what'll they demand?

Hold your applause, chess fans.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
15. My senator Mark Kirk is one of them and it's because he fears losing to Duckworth
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:06 PM
Mar 2016

Im glad he may go out doing a good thing but can't wait til Senator Duckworth takes his seat.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
17. Obama picked a guy from Lincolnwood who went to Niles West High School
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:30 PM
Mar 2016

That makes him pretty much a hometown boy for the entire north suburbs (i.e., Kirk's delta in any Illinois statewide election). Kirk's going to fold on this like a cheap suit, I guarantee it.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
18. He already has. Said he'll meet with him.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:45 PM
Mar 2016

he broke ranks with the Senate leadership even before Garland was announced.

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