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shawn703

(2,702 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:18 PM Mar 2016

FBI may have found a way into terrorist's iPhone

Source: CNN

On the eve of a court showdown with Apple, the Department of Justice wants to cancel the hearing, saying it may have found a way into the iPhone of Syed Farook, the gunman in the San Bernardino shooting.

The DOJ has been pressuring Apple for help in gaining access to Farook's iPhone.

But in a court filing on Monday, the DOJ said it may no longer need Apple.

"On Sunday, March 20, 2016, an outside party demonstrated to the FBI a possible method for unlocking Farook's iPhone. If the method is viable, it should eliminate the need for the assistance from Apple Inc."

Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/21/technology/doj-apple-hearing/index.html

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FBI may have found a way into terrorist's iPhone (Original Post) shawn703 Mar 2016 OP
like the FBI wasn't able to get into the phone before. choie Mar 2016 #1
Bingo! Their bullshit is as clear as the long pointy nose on my face. nt valerief Mar 2016 #3
Gonna have to wait to hear what method they used, it could be a new exploit that someone cstanleytech Mar 2016 #16
The phone is running an older iOS NutmegYankee Mar 2016 #17
Precisely. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #4
No one believes the FBI. Generally it is said that the FBI wants out before a judge LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #2
^^^this^^^ eom Purveyor Mar 2016 #5
I believe the FBI .... and Apple.... reACTIONary Mar 2016 #13
Of course they have. herding cats Mar 2016 #6
They must have browsed Apple's forums. Way break-into an iPhone w/o passcode can be found there. eom Mika Mar 2016 #7
Let me guess Sgent Mar 2016 #8
Exactly so. It didn't work out the way they thought it would. suffragette Mar 2016 #24
11111111 n/t Ellipsis Mar 2016 #9
Apple's helping them on the DL MowCowWhoHow III Mar 2016 #10
Apple's security is far superior to its competitors... onehandle Mar 2016 #11
Agree rpannier Mar 2016 #12
Yeah, I'm impressed by the tech. joshcryer Mar 2016 #15
The phone in question is running an OS 2 generations behind and without the hardware encryption. NutmegYankee Mar 2016 #19
This situation has been a PR boon for Apple Odin2005 Mar 2016 #14
I have it from an inside source, the password was 123456 GummyBearz Mar 2016 #18
It was an older OS. They probably always had the ability to get in. EllieBC Mar 2016 #20
I'm figuring they always had a way... Heeeeers Johnny Mar 2016 #21
DOJ finally Googled it! SCVDem Mar 2016 #22
What a surprise. davidthegnome Mar 2016 #23

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
16. Gonna have to wait to hear what method they used, it could be a new exploit that someone
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:39 PM
Mar 2016

discovered that Apple was not aware of and thus hasnt patched.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
17. The phone is running an older iOS
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:03 PM
Mar 2016

It's possible the exploit is known and patched on newer versions. Also, the 5C doesn't have the hardware encryption, so it's possible to copy the data off the phone and clone it for hacking.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
2. No one believes the FBI. Generally it is said that the FBI wants out before a judge
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:23 PM
Mar 2016

rules against them. The NSA has always been able to get into the devices and both the NSA & CIA have both come out on Apple's side of the issue.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
13. I believe the FBI .... and Apple....
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:55 PM
Mar 2016

,.... apple did it's best to make the phone warrent proff and looks like they did a good job. There isn't any reason to doubt them or the FBI .

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
6. Of course they have.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:53 PM
Mar 2016

Timing is seriously suspect here. Right before a high profile trial they were going to lose, they've got it and don't need to push the issue.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
7. They must have browsed Apple's forums. Way break-into an iPhone w/o passcode can be found there. eom
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:54 PM
Mar 2016

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
8. Let me guess
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:03 PM
Mar 2016

NSA can get in....

The FBI wanted a back door it could use in court (since the suspect in this case is dead, court doesn't matter) and thought they had the perfect venue to get it by yelling "TERROR".

The push back they got from the public, congress, Apple, and everyone else is making them back down before they lose.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
11. Apple's security is far superior to its competitors...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:27 PM
Mar 2016

...but I cannot believe that the Feds don't have a way into that iPhone.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
12. Agree
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

I won't be surprised if 10 years from now there is a story about how this whole thing was a charade and they went through the motions for public consumption. That they already had gotten into his phone and found what they wanted or found nothing. But it looked good for the public

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
19. The phone in question is running an OS 2 generations behind and without the hardware encryption.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:09 PM
Mar 2016

The newer phone have a hardware feature that is probably unbreakable.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
14. This situation has been a PR boon for Apple
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:59 PM
Mar 2016

Expect a huge boost in sales by people and organizations concerned about the security of their data.

EllieBC

(3,014 posts)
20. It was an older OS. They probably always had the ability to get in.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:28 PM
Mar 2016

Or they could've easily reached out to another agency to help them.

Heeeeers Johnny

(423 posts)
21. I'm figuring they always had a way...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:45 PM
Mar 2016

but, it was time consuming, expensive and a PITA.

They just wanted to simplify the process.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
23. What a surprise.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:18 AM
Mar 2016

What they wanted was to set a precedent - a tech corporation working hand in hand with government to enable the government to remove privacy measures. The FBI, I suspect, was only the face of this thing, I suspect it was the NSA or various political entities that were really pulling the strings. For the future of safety, they would claim, they must be given access to such things to monitor them for "dangerous terrorist activity". Such lines have worked all too frequently in the past, but we know what the Patriot Act gave us, we know all about the NSA's domestic spying program thanks to Edward Snowden.

Those who sacrifice freedom for safety deserve neither. Apple made the right choice here.

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