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Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:39 PM Mar 2016

Rolling Stone endorses Hillary Clinton

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by azurnoir (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: hill

Rolling Stone magazine is endorsing Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton.
"Hillary Clinton has an impressive command of policy, the details, trade-offs and how it gets done. It's easy to blame billionaires for everything, but quite another to know what to do about it," editor and publisher Jann S. Wenner said in an editorial published Wednesday.

While praising aspects of Democratic rival Bernie Sanders's call for breaking up the big banks and his emphasis on inequality, Wenner blasted the independent Vermont senator's explanation of a "political revolution" to get his agenda through Congress.

"This is a vague, deeply disingenuous idea that ignores the reality of modern America," Wenner wrote, adding, "I have been to the revolution before. It ain't happening." He also praised Clinton's experience as secretary of State and focus on social justice issues.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274009-rolling-stone-endorses-hillary

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Rolling Stone endorses Hillary Clinton (Original Post) Cryptoad Mar 2016 OP
Matt Taibbi weighs in... JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #1
Is this the magazine facing the $25m lawsuit for defamation and purposely publishing false stories? MadDAsHell Mar 2016 #2
She is right up there With Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show... Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #3
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #4
Who would ever have thought that Rolling Stone would one day be part of the establishment? KamaAina Mar 2016 #5
Anyone who realized it would become a multi-million dollar enterprise. tabasco Mar 2016 #6
Dontcha know? Zorro Mar 2016 #9
It's all in the goal of the company. seabeckind Mar 2016 #13
It was used as an example of anti-establishment at the end of the book "Firestarter". Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #11
not sure Rolling Stone coming off a fake story PatrynXX Mar 2016 #12
Those guys at Rolling Stone sold out Doc_Technical Mar 2016 #7
I just cancelled my subscription to Rolling Stone jbeck Mar 2016 #8
This just shows to go Plucketeer Mar 2016 #16
Me too. jhart3333 Mar 2016 #17
Ahh, the "no, we can't" argument. seabeckind Mar 2016 #10
I half expect to hear a Black Sabbath track used to sell mouthwash. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #14
Its as if the "Yes We Can" had been squashed by Obama LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #19
RS doesn't have much of a clue about music these days either. mahannah Mar 2016 #15
"progressive ideas have a broad popularity" seabeckind Mar 2016 #18
Rolling Stone is just one of the many, many, endorsements she has received. Good for her and them. Laser102 Mar 2016 #20
Locking not LBN fine for GDP though azurnoir Mar 2016 #21

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
1. Matt Taibbi weighs in...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:43 PM
Mar 2016

Arguably the leading political voice in Rolling Stone:

As with the Times and other outlets, the editors are entitled to their opinion. It's not mine.


https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/712474806080446466

He's right, if Wenner, with his $700,000,000 wants to endorse the plutocratic candidate, Wenner has every right to do so.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. She is right up there With Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:46 PM
Mar 2016

stonecutter357

(12,697 posts)
4. K&R!
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:48 PM
Mar 2016
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. Who would ever have thought that Rolling Stone would one day be part of the establishment?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:48 PM
Mar 2016
 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
6. Anyone who realized it would become a multi-million dollar enterprise.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:53 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for asking!

Zorro

(15,746 posts)
9. Dontcha know?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:57 PM
Mar 2016

Every financially successful business is evil.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
13. It's all in the goal of the company.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:02 PM
Mar 2016

When success is determined only financially, we really shouldn't expect any action that doesn't have a financial motive, should we?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. It was used as an example of anti-establishment at the end of the book "Firestarter".
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
12. not sure Rolling Stone coming off a fake story
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:02 PM
Mar 2016

is like all that popular nowadays. Maxim maybe Rolling Stone? hasn't been on the radar since they shrank it.

Doc_Technical

(3,527 posts)
7. Those guys at Rolling Stone sold out
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:56 PM
Mar 2016

It hasn't been the same after they moved
from San Francisco to New York.

jbeck

(3 posts)
8. I just cancelled my subscription to Rolling Stone
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:57 PM
Mar 2016

I am so happy that Mr. Wenner in his vaulted position and with his condescending words finds it to be his responsibility to blast Bernie Sanders. I may be a dreamer but I am not the only one.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
16. This just shows to go
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:09 PM
Mar 2016

that short-sightedness and non-comprehension are NOT an exclusive of those in the lower strata of our society.

jhart3333

(332 posts)
17. Me too.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:13 PM
Mar 2016

I'm a dreamer too.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
10. Ahh, the "no, we can't" argument.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:00 PM
Mar 2016

So we shouldn't bother to try.

Rolling Stone started as a counter-argument to the establishment.

They found it's easier to get along if it goes along.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. I half expect to hear a Black Sabbath track used to sell mouthwash.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:04 PM
Mar 2016

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
19. Its as if the "Yes We Can" had been squashed by Obama
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:09 PM
Mar 2016

Or sabotaged by Obama himself in exchange for membership in The Club. Either way, once the 'No We Can't" had been fully established, and sealed down even further with Obama's second term win, Hillary is simply carrying on Obama's legacy. Its the simplest, easiest route. The now established "No We Can't" meme is the new normal. So when Sanders actually re-animated the "Yes We Can" meme, the DLC establishment were shocked at his popularity because they figured it they had finally killed it, and loyal Democrats had resigned themselves to the "No We Can't" New Corporate Democrat position. The Clintons, the DNC, and the rest of the corporate puppets have moved on even from the Third Way now, and into the Fourth Way. No more triangulating with the Republicans, the new fourth way is to BECOME the Republicans, or at least what they once were.

mahannah

(893 posts)
15. RS doesn't have much of a clue about music these days either.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:05 PM
Mar 2016

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
18. "progressive ideas have a broad popularity"
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:47 PM
Mar 2016

Yes, they do. And they are implemented when the people speak to the entrenched power base.

This is from an earlier RS article:

Sanders believes that such progressive ideas have a broad popularity, not just among a lefty fringe but across the working class, even in red states. And yet progressive movements in recent years have wound up marginalized in the face of establishment pushback (Dean, the Occupy Wall Street movement) or else, as in the case of support for Obama, left as promises unfulfilled. Sanders believes that by keeping his focus on economic populism, he has a shot — a long one, he admits — at beating the historical odds. "Once you get off of the social issues — abortion, gay rights, guns — and into the economic issues," he says, "there is a lot more agreement than the pundits understand."

(SNIP)

The bigger question facing Sanders, whatever you think about the merits of his ideas, is how he would ever possibly implement them, assuming he's not elected along with a Democratic sweep of both houses of Congress. Sanders, on the stump, praises President Obama for running a brilliant campaign in 2008. But then he goes on to say that the president's biggest mistake ("and I had the opportunity to tell him this — I'm not sure how happy he was to hear it, but that's what I do!&quot was to demobilize his millions of passionate supporters after Election Day: "Politics in Washington is not about a president sitting down with Mitch McConnell or John Boehner and having a drink [and] trying to work it out — that's just media nonsense. You guys want free tuition at public colleges and universities? You bring a million of your friends to march on Washington, D.C.!"

Sanders insists that the nation is less polarized than it is portrayed in the mainstream media. Through the Obama years, the Democratic Party's strategy has been to specifically target the so-called coalition of the ascendant — young people, minorities, college-educated women — by heightening contradictions with the GOP on issues like immigration, LGBT rights, overpolicing and abortion.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/weekend-with-bernie-sanders-20150709#ixzz43l0QCylQ
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook



"Through the Obama years, the Democratic Party's strategy has been to specifically target the so-called coalition of the ascendant — young people, minorities, college-educated women "

And then promptly forgets the promises -- until the next election or fundraising letter.

Got one of those today from DWS. Time to send off another $50 to Bernie.

Laser102

(816 posts)
20. Rolling Stone is just one of the many, many, endorsements she has received. Good for her and them.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:11 PM
Mar 2016

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
21. Locking not LBN fine for GDP though
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:33 PM
Mar 2016
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