Donald Trump Wants To Remind White People That Gun Violence Is A Black Problem
Source: Huffington Post
WASHINGTON — Nailing down specifics about Donald Trump’s policies is exhausting. He makes things up, changes his mind and neglects details. One of the six issues he’s actually fleshed out on his campaign website concerns gun rights, where he says he will combat gun violence by bringing back measures like Project Exile, a 1990s-era state-federal partnership.
Trump doesn’t seem to realize that Project Exile never really ended — it still exists, and parts of it have expanded nationwide. His proposal doesn’t really make sense, but it does serve his purposes: It focuses on cities, where his overwhelmingly white base doesn’t live. It locks up “drug dealers and gang members,” not “law-abiding gun-owners.” It doesn’t address other routine forms of gun violence, like shootings by toddlers, family members, domestic abusers, countless legal gun owners, or mass shooters such as Dylann Roof and Elliot Rodger. And for people like Trump, it also makes a great racist dog-whistle. (The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment.)
“Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control,” Trump warns in his online pitch for resurrecting the still-extant program, citing two of the American cities with the highest number of black residents. “Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and turned loose on the street.“
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-gun-violence-black-problem_us_56fd7a72e4b0a06d58053e40
The CRUX of the story:
"The program created a partnership between state and federal law enforcement that pushed for certain firearms cases to be prosecuted in federal court, where defendants faced harsher prison sentences. The possibility of getting locked up without bail or the possibility of parole and being shipped to a federal prison far from home — or “exiled” — was supposed to convince people to put down their weapons. The initiative included a public information campaign warning Richmonders that “an illegal gun will get you five years in federal prison.”
“Based on the way those programs are implemented ... you are going to have a significantly higher number of minorities, specifically black and African-American minorities, negatively impacted,” said Robyn McDougle, an associate professor of criminal justice at Virginia Commonwealth University. But those communities were also more likely to be victimized by violent crime, she added, so focusing resources there made sense."
"Supporters celebrated Project Exile’s success. “Drug dealers, gangs and felons stopped carrying guns,” NRA chief Wayne Lapierre said in 2013, at a congressional hearing where he repeatedly touted the program. The NRA was a big backer of Project Exile in the ‘90s, and it remains one of the few gun enforcement measures that the group regularly supports."
"Trump claims the initiative was “tremendous” and plans to “bring back and expand” programs like it.
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SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single mass murder in this country done by a black person.
I'm pretty sure, without doing any research, that most of the gun violence in this country is more or less one on one, and of course people of all races happily participate.
The problem with gun violence has nothing to do with race. It has to do with the easy availability of guns and a culture that encourages solving problems with guns.
Zira
(1,054 posts)one other state and it turned out to be a black serial killer.
That said, the thing for this story, is it's the prison-forever pipeline where blacks simply cannot get out if they're charged with a gun crime. - and we can expect more of that if Trump is president.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)But I don't believe he was shooting those kids, was he?
Which does not in any way excuse what he did, but I just want to bring it back to gun violence. And if he did shoot them, it's a sufficiently rare thing (black serial killer with gun) that it stands out.
Zira
(1,054 posts)I was a little kid at the time and it was on the news for weeks until they caught the guy.
Zira
(1,054 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_murders_of_1979%E2%80%9381
"The Atlanta murders of 1979–1981, sometimes called the Atlanta Child Murders (despite several of the purported victims being adults), were a series of murders committed in Atlanta, Georgia, United States from the summer of 1979 until the spring of 1981. Over the two-year period, at least 28 African-American children, adolescents and adults were killed"
Interestingly this guy got two life sentences for killing 28 people - he will spend forever in jail.
And now a days blacks get that for simply being a gang member and being caught with a gun, under this Project Exile.
Zira
(1,054 posts)it, and the white kkk member they originally thought did, might have. Suspicions abounds in this wiki article. The white kkk member was linked to other deaths.
They note the guy Williams who was charged with killing the kids failed a polygraph test(and they're note admissible in court) and the KKK member and his brother both passed lie detector tests. Now-a-days we know that lie detector tests should never be used. The Green River passed his 5 times.
Sociopaths pass those tests easily because they don't get emotional and emotional people give false positives. The Justice Department has asked cops to quit using them for 3 decades because of this but police departments continue to use them. Many mass murderers have been let go when they were the most likely person the police suspected, because they passed their lie detector test. No lie detector test will hold up in court.
The very end of the article says DNS evidence found in the car matched what was found on the body. Since it looks like the guy was framed I have do idea how reliable that dna being found in his car would be.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)apparently someone has. Unlike y'all I am an old fart and I actually attended many days of the Williams trial. He is guilty, guilty, guilty. I saw the evidence; I saw him; and I saw a jury taking notes and closely paying attention. This was such a big deal in Georgia that every bit of testimony was printed in the paper and I read every word. He was guilty, guilty, guilty.
PJMcK
(22,036 posts)But overwhelmingly your point is spot on.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I hope none of us here want to vilify African Americans. Gun violence is pervasive in our culture, and it is not just one race or ethnic group involved.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)...that if you give up your addiction to the cult of celebrity Trump will go away.
cprise
(8,445 posts)The reason they push Trump is the reason they virtually ignore Sanders (who is consistently polling higher than Trump):
If Clinton gets the nomination then she can pretend it was always a contest between her and Trump; she can comfortably push a conservative agenda and still look "left" compared to Trump.
The main goal is to protect the FTA agenda that allows multinational corporations to nullify labor and environmental laws. (That is also why Obama is kind of a joke... he promotes labor and green laws with great fanfare, while quietly pushing Free Trade Agreements that make the former moot.)
cprise
(8,445 posts)snip
“Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control,” Trump warns in his online pitch for resurrecting the still-extant program, citing two of the American cities with the highest number of black residents. “Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and turned loose on the street.“
Trump’s strategy is pretty transparent, said Ladd Everitt, a spokesman for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. “By framing America’s gun violence problem as a black problem concentrated entirely in urban areas,” he said, Trump and groups like the NRA “can get policymakers to ignore a huge percentage of the gun deaths happening in their communities.”
Zira
(1,054 posts)All the black person has to do is be caught with an illegal gun.
It purposely targets black areas and not white. It's a prison round up program for blacks.
The defendents go to federal prison and get far harsher sentences: "the initiative included a public information campaign warning Richmonders that “an illegal gun will get you five years in federal prison.”" That's just possession.
cprise
(8,445 posts)John Ehrlichman, who had advised Nixon on domestic policy, told the journalist Dan Baum that the drugs war was an excuse to target “the anti-war left and black people”, Mr Baum writes, in a new report advocating drug legalisation for Harper’s Magazine.
“The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the anti-war left and black people,” Mr Ehrlichman said in the 1994 interview.
“We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalising both heavily, we could disrupt those communities.
“We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes… and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
Zira
(1,054 posts)Good point. This is the same thing.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)We'll see what goes down at the GOP/NRA convention in Cleveland this summer.
Is the GOP establishment really going to deny the nomination to Wyatt Trump?
Bernardo de La Paz
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Skittles
(153,160 posts)NRA logic
whistler162
(11,155 posts)of white haired bullies with fly away hair!
