The Latest: Sanders lands in Rome for Vatican conference
Source: Newsday
9:05 a.m.
Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has landed in Rome to attend a Vatican conference steeped in his lifelong passions of economic and social justice.
The Vermont senator is making the trip even while he faces a crucial New York primary against rival Hillary Clinton next week.
The self-described democratic socialist is an admirer of Pope Francis and will join several speakers commemorating the 25th anniversary of "Centesimus Annus," a high-level teaching document by Pope John Paul II on the economy and social justice at the end of the Cold War.
The roughly 24-hour break from the campaign comes just five days before the New York primary.
Sanders is joined by his wife, Jane Sanders, and 10 family members, including four grandchildren.
Read more: http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/the-latest-pope-meets-morales-before-vatican-conference-1.11694886
reddread
(6,896 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)http://www.religionnews.com/2015/09/18/francis-visit-east-coast-bypasses-catholic-growth-centers/
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)That and Bernie is polling within 6% ALREADY
He'll be Dead Even with Shillery by the end of the weekend
SunSeeker
(51,683 posts)Here's my link:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-clinton-s-lead-new-york-grows-n556201
Got a link for your assertion?
Beacool
(30,251 posts)And when it comes to religion, Clinton leads among likely New York Democratic primary voters who are Protestant (62 percent to 35 percent), Catholic (61 percent to 36 percent) and Jewish (65 percent to 32 percent).
onehandle
(51,122 posts)They'll have plenty more time for vacations soon.
reddread
(6,896 posts)I wonder what he could have done with sour grapes?
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)The funniest quip I've heard regarding all this?
The Vatican would have invited Hillary, but they couldn't afford her speaking fees.
ba-dum-tsss!
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)Is that the point that you're trying to make?
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)She is a mercenary when it comes to her pocketbook. The idea of her volunteering her time, except for a photo op, is ludicrous.
beastie boy
(9,421 posts)is equally ludicrous.
he is getting hours of free air time worth hundreds of thousands of dollars for ten minutes of talking. I wonder how this compares to one of Hillary's paid speeches.
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)check speaking fees generally? Hillary is doing and has done nothing wrong in receiving them. In fact, her fees are literally "chump change" compared to those received by Donald Trump and others, including the late President Ronald Reagan. Clinton also donates all or most of her fees to the Clinton Foundation. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/16/occupy-democrats/liberal-group-claims-all-hillary-clintons-speaking/ If that isn't similar to volunteering, I don't know what is.
This is such a silly charge, a blatant attempt at dividing Democrats, and yet another attempt to smear HRC with the same smears used by RW GOPers and CDSers, which is just one of many reasons why I have become extremely disillusioned with Senator Sanders. Even Kathleen Parker, no friend to Hillary Clinton, defends her speaking fees. See https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-fight-over-hillary-clintons-speaking-fees-is-ridiculous/2016/02/05/ca4d8952-cc4e-11e5-ae11-57b6aeab993f_story.html
Just wait until Bernie enters the private sector. He certainly won't be giving speeches for "chump change." He'll certainly ask for market rates. But, as always, IOKIBSDI.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)pandr32
(11,611 posts)And if they did who is paying for this "vacation?"
So many rooms to book. Sanders is living the good life.
reddread
(6,896 posts)liarland?
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)I love it
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)It's "Hillary-ous"
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)they're gonna love it
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)And sickening.
pandr32
(11,611 posts)And his taking his whole extended family along.
reddread
(6,896 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)He was invited to a conference, and he accepted.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)nothing.
reddread
(6,896 posts)berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)Should we question any of their vacations - together or apart? The SS would have always been with them.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)SunSeeker
(51,683 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)* * *
The trip was organized and paid for by Sanders campaign.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-brings-family-trip-vatican/story?id=38416805
SunSeeker
(51,683 posts)Response to SunSeeker (Reply #53)
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Human101948
(3,457 posts)I've heard it a thousand times about President Obama.
Report: Price of Obama getaways $70 million so far, and counting
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article50172810.html
thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)Not just during specified events or duties. You think Obama doesn't have SS around him when he plays golf or vacations?
Triana
(22,666 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)God forbid someone should take their 24 hours to go speak about poverty
Triana
(22,666 posts)rpannier
(24,337 posts)You know, the one for the gold plate club
rpannier
(24,337 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Response to onehandle (Reply #2)
Vilis Veritas This message was self-deleted by its author.
LiberalFighter
(51,084 posts)10 family members and four grandchildren too? Who brings all of them to a conference?
reddread
(6,896 posts)a mensch.
I'm so excited for Bernie - an opportunity to share his ideas on a topic that he is passionate about and on the world stage - how great that he can share this moment with his family in attendance. I'm sure they are all very proud of him!
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)an ATM for her Foundation.
vs.
A relatively poor socialist jew who truly wants to cure the sick, help the needy, and comfort those who need solace and consideration?
Yeah, I can see why the Vatican would not invite her.
LiberalFighter
(51,084 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Maybe you can get it right the second or third time.
LiberalFighter
(51,084 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)That's not what's written. That would be FOURTEEN family members in total.
What's written is 10 family members INCLUDING four grandchildren
CBHagman
(16,987 posts)...produced a headline and an image not in keeping with the content! Back to the drawing board.
On edit, then again, perhaps my time is best spent elsewhere. The self-congratulation, self-righteousness, and the like on this thread reminded me why I limit my exposure to DU these days.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Inquiring minds want to know.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)Why is he wasting money on LUXURIOUS means of transportation???
beastie boy
(9,421 posts)But he really wanted to! I know he did, because he was going to see the Pope and he didn't want to upstage his idol! It just didn't turn out the way Bernie intended because of circumstances beyond his control...
tabasco
(22,974 posts)They make everybody who doesn't live at the Vatican waste BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in travel expenses. Smart people getting together to talk about ways to end poverty is just such a HUGE WASTE! They should just do it on SKYPE or something.
(How much did the Iraq war cost, Sparky?)
beastie boy
(9,421 posts)I get it. Any US Senator visiting Rome with his extended family is entitled to lavish limousine service from a chartered plane to a conference on poverty.
Because it costs less than the iraq war.
I must admit, this line of argument didn't cross my mind. My bad.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)isn't it?
beastie boy
(9,421 posts)Left me totally breathless.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)to Bernie. Imagine how far ahead he'd be if our useless corporate "news" outlets gave him the kind of coverage he's getting in Rome.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Sanders ignore their questions.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Hillary is having a fancy dinner with George Clooney gossiping about nothing? Guess who looks more Presidential!
SunSeeker
(51,683 posts)It was a truncated, 10-minute version of his stump speech that he has already given thousands of times, and it was not at the Vatican, but at an annual academic conference to study a PRIOR Pope's encyclical held in Vatican City, not in the Vatican itself. And the Pope was not there.
But who was there was 10 of Sanders' family members, whose Roman holiday was paid for with campaign dollars. Last I checked that is a felony.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)☺
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)I don't know which expenses were or weren't covered or what the rules are on it, but the cost of a chartered plane doesn't go up when you take more people along. So the additional expense for the family were probably minimal.
Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)and the Bros go crazy.
"Oh look, Bernie's going into the terminal!" Applause, applause.
840high
(17,196 posts)can't stand it - so funny. Hillary would never be invited.
4now
(1,596 posts)FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)4now
(1,596 posts)I wonder what he is trying to hide?
FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)Ah, ha ha ha ha ha!!!
4now
(1,596 posts)Clinton has released 8 years of returns and BS just tries to blame his wife.
Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)4now
(1,596 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Typical.
If it were Hillary on that trip, she'd never hear the end of it.