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7962

(11,841 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:12 PM Apr 2016

Concerned about veteran with PTSD, judge orders him to jail and serves the time with him

Source: ABA Journal

A North Carolina judge who sentenced a veteran to 24 hours in jail for a probation violation was worried how the time alone would affect the defendant’s post-traumatic stress disorder. So the judge served the time with him.

For most of the night, Judge Lou Olivera and defendant Joseph Serna talked about their military service, report the Fayetteville Observer, WRAL, ABC11 and the Washington Post. “He stepped in there for me,” Serna told the Observer.

Read more: http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/concerned_about_veteran_with_ptsd_judge_orders_him_to_jail_and_serves_the_t



THIS is someone to emulate
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Concerned about veteran with PTSD, judge orders him to jail and serves the time with him (Original Post) 7962 Apr 2016 OP
Actual care for a veteran..if the judge is a Republican, he better hide his membership card. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #1
Wow, way to go judge AuntPatsy Apr 2016 #2
wonderful story, thanks.. nt grasswire Apr 2016 #3
Awesome. Just awesome. mahannah Apr 2016 #4
Wonderful story..thank you so much for posting this. mountain grammy Apr 2016 #5
Tears. Wonderful story. Politicub Apr 2016 #6
thanks for sharing this.. 2banon Apr 2016 #7
Beautiful. TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2016 #8
Wonderful story. montana_hazeleyes Apr 2016 #9
Nice story out of NC for a change. That judge is a helluva guy. nt MADem Apr 2016 #10
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #11
Wow, now that's one hell of a judge! Amimnoch Apr 2016 #12
Wow. RiverNoord Apr 2016 #13
Maybe more judges should emulate this behavior so that justice might prevail! NoRWNJ Apr 2016 #14
I just don't see the happy ending here. basselope Apr 2016 #15
Good points..... charity medical clinics are another short term band-aid groundloop Apr 2016 #21
I brought my brother home from the hospital today after being there for 9 days. Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #24
Agree with everything. JimDandy Apr 2016 #25
Go to the link, read the article & watch the video Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #26
I did, that's what made me so sad. basselope Apr 2016 #29
Well, they have treatment programs, but this court exists to Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #32
Its not just the VA problems.. it is the systemic problems basselope Apr 2016 #33
Why not aspire to be both a compassionate society and a compassionate individual? GliderGuider Apr 2016 #27
THAT houston16revival Apr 2016 #16
God bless ... Jopin Klobe Apr 2016 #17
Judge is a mensch! . . . .n/t annabanana Apr 2016 #18
Fort Bragg is included in his jurisdiction OnlinePoker Apr 2016 #19
A Few Good Men cantbeserious Apr 2016 #20
Heartwarming story democrank Apr 2016 #22
Seems like a good judge and person Angry Dragon Apr 2016 #23
excellent judge Liberal_in_LA Apr 2016 #28
Wow! What understanding and compassion! We need more like this! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #30
That is thinking outside of the box. Nice job judge. eom Festivito Apr 2016 #31
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
7. thanks for sharing this..
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:07 PM
Apr 2016

and bringing a little glimmer of hope for humanity and justice.

rare, that...

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
9. Wonderful story.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:33 PM
Apr 2016

This is the kind of jurist who truly lives up to his calling. We need so many more like him.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
15. I just don't see the happy ending here.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:36 PM
Apr 2016

It made me sad that someone suffering from mental illness was sentenced to JAIL at all. I think it is great that the judge saw a potential problem and spent the night with him, but this all goes to the essence of so many of our problems.

"Look the judge did a nice thing, what a feel good story"

Yet, this vet has to go back out there and live with PTSD and may wind up driving drunk again, not because he's a bad person, but because he is suffering with a mental disorder and not receiving proper treatment for it.

This all reminds me of some idiotic bet some DU'er wanted to make with me about the California primary.. It involved taking a homeless person out to fancy dinner depending upon who won the primary. I wouldn't accept the bet b/c it is the way we seem to "solve" so many things now a days. Okay, took them out to a nice dinner, problem solved. Gave money to a homeless shelter problem solved. Spent the night with this guy in jail so it wouldn't be so bad.

Why do we pat ourselves on the backs and get teary eyed over band-aids being placed on infected wounds? We have deep systemic problems in this country when it comes to crime and punishment, poverty, homelessness, etc..

I think this is what is bothering me most about this election. We seem to have lost the ability to think big.. we keep the shit to shoe level and call it a day.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
21. Good points..... charity medical clinics are another short term band-aid
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:13 PM
Apr 2016

We need to get past these societal band-aids and fix the real problems.

I do give the judge credit for at least having some compassion for this veteran with PTSD.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
24. I brought my brother home from the hospital today after being there for 9 days.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:16 AM
Apr 2016

He was malnourished (100 lbs and 5'7&quot because his pancreas is almost done due to alcoholism. His liver is almost done for the same reason plus a pain killer addiction (multiple back surgeries, completely disabled). When I brought him to the ER they put in an IV but didn't attach a bag for 8 hours. His belly, legs and feet were grossly swollen and he didn't remember where he lived or his birthday. Almost all lab test were out of the normal range, the liver especially so. The ER Doctor was not going to admit him because "his labs were not that bad." He couldn't even walk, but he did have Medicaid/Medicare, so they would get paid!

He has been a little brain damaged from birth and slow. His HS nickname was "Woody" from the show Cheers. He drank due to self esteem issues caused by continual put downs etc.

I threatened to sue the hospital and that Doctor personally for patient dumping if they didn't admit him. They finally did and even told me it was only for 1 day because of my threat. Next day different doctors saw him there and freaked out over those same labs.

Spoke to the patient advocate and the chaplain. Told them I could get a Guardianship over him if I could get him into an assisted care facility. I was told the U.S tanks 50th out of the top 50 countries for treatment of mental illness and addiction. The chaplain told me other than a 72 hour commitment, there was nothing else but jail, prison or the streets if you didn't have Donald Trump type money. Most insurance policies pay for only two weeks a year for treatment.

Where are our priorities? I am always told that this is a Christian nation with Christian values. If these are Christian values I want none of them!

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
25. Agree with everything.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:30 AM
Apr 2016

In the meantime, this vet made it through another day with the help of the judge, until we can provide him with some long-term help. Can't come fast enough.

Obama's great uncle, a vet, suffered from shell shock, or what we now call PTSD. I would have thought that by now, Obama would have brought sufficient attention and finances to bear on this problem, knowing what his great uncle had to endure the rest of his life.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
26. Go to the link, read the article & watch the video
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:05 AM
Apr 2016

This is a special intervention program for veterans. It is "Veterans Treatment Court", and getting veterans who run afoul of the law due to their personal issues treatment is the primary focus.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
29. I did, that's what made me so sad.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:39 AM
Apr 2016

It's trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

The fact that they have to run afoul of the law to get treatment is the shame and then that even that only keeps the shit to shoe level.

We can do better than this!!!!

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
32. Well, they have treatment programs, but this court exists to
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:01 AM
Apr 2016

ensure that they have access and that the efforts are coordinated.

We all know the VA problems, and sadly, many individuals with substance abuse problems are first convinced to get in treatment during legal proceedings.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
27. Why not aspire to be both a compassionate society and a compassionate individual?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:13 AM
Apr 2016

Compassionate societies form around compassionate individuals, after all.

I think of this judge as a model rather than a band-aid. That view seems more positive, as well as more respectful to everyone involved: the judge, the veteran, and the rest of us out here.

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
19. Fort Bragg is included in his jurisdiction
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

He is very concerned with the welfare of military personnel according to a Facebook page on him (I believe it's a campaign page by supporters).

https://www.facebook.com/Oliveraforjudge/

Rhiannon12866

(205,509 posts)
30. Wow! What understanding and compassion! We need more like this!
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:53 AM
Apr 2016

Any chance we'll see this judge running for anything at the national level?

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