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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 10:55 PM Jun 2012

Righthaven ordered to pay attorney’s fees in another case ($131,457 to DU)

Last edited Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Vegas Inc (Las Vegas Sun)

Righthaven LLC, the Las Vegas copyright infringement lawsuit filer, was ordered Thursday to pay $131,457 in attorney's fees to a defendant that prevailed against Righthaven in court.

U.S. District Judge Roger Hunt in Las Vegas ordered that Righthaven pay the fees to attorneys for the Democratic Underground, a political website operator in the Washington, D.C., area.

The order lifts to $318,138 the amount Righthaven has been ordered to pay copyright defendants in Righthaven cases in Nevada and Colorado.

... In the Democratic Underground case, Righthaven didn't respond to its attorney's fee request. In fact, the only sign of life at Righthaven in recent months is that it may continue pursuing at least one of its appeals of its legal setbacks.

Read more: http://www.vegasinc.com/news/2012/jun/14/righthaven-ordered-pay-attorneys-fees-another-case/



Full ruling here (PDF):
http://ia700509.us.archive.org/5/items/gov.uscourts.nvd.75386/gov.uscourts.nvd.75386.201.0.pdf
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Righthaven ordered to pay attorney’s fees in another case ($131,457 to DU) (Original Post) Newsjock Jun 2012 OP
YAY! Love it! freshwest Jun 2012 #1
Ha ha!! Robb Jun 2012 #2
That Grovelbot is really effective. klook Jun 2012 #3
Don't forget: Freerepublic wet their pants and paid Righthaven off when threatened. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #4
No shit? Lasher Jun 2012 #5
free republic was much liklier to have been guilty dsc Jun 2012 #8
I haven't followed the case VERY closely but don't think it hinged on our... Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #11
Intent to follow rules goes a long way for a judge or a jury. boppers Jun 2012 #12
Did that piece even get adjudicated? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #22
Harm comes before standing. boppers Jun 2012 #26
Making distinctions between what is just and unjust . . . MrModerate Jun 2012 #10
Freeperville's 'colors do run.' Unlike Skinner, who took a principled stand. freshwest Jun 2012 #17
Maybe the freepers run to confuse their enemies more! Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #19
Free Republic was sued by the LA Times and Washington Post. LynneSin Jun 2012 #27
Free repubic was also sued and settled with righthaven: Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #28
FR wingzeroday Jun 2012 #30
great news! Now the MIRT can finally get paid! NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 #6
They earn every penny! longship Jun 2012 #7
Good news! KT2000 Jun 2012 #9
Congratulations to DU! Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #13
The Big Political Website Democratic Underground NBachers Jun 2012 #14
I'm so proud of you folks! /nt philly_bob Jun 2012 #15
As I understand the legal world, there is a difference between receiving a judgement and actually.. left on green only Jun 2012 #16
let's just say I wouldn't be spending the money yet dsc Jun 2012 #18
Slim to none and slim just left town. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #21
Righthaven's basically a gently smoking crater as is, so pretty slim. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2012 #25
K&R!!! Terrific news!!! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2012 #20
Woohoo!!!! dkf Jun 2012 #23
Soooo....free stars for everyone? No? Not even a few? ... nt MADem Jun 2012 #24
I had a crappy day xfundy Jun 2012 #29
Ah, now that feels good! FiveGoodMen Jun 2012 #31

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
4. Don't forget: Freerepublic wet their pants and paid Righthaven off when threatened.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:04 PM
Jun 2012

Whaddya expect from a bunch of chicken-hawks?

dsc

(52,160 posts)
8. free republic was much liklier to have been guilty
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:18 PM
Jun 2012

we are very diligent about enforcing a 4 paragraph rule which meant we were really within fair use bounds. Free Republic was way laxer about enforcing such a rule.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
11. I haven't followed the case VERY closely but don't think it hinged on our...
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:28 PM
Jun 2012

... 4 paragraph rule adherence.

No matter which way you slice it, Righthaven was a paper tiger based on a sham transaction business model. Righthaven folded like a cheap suit under the slightest scrutiny.

Rimjob is a sucker/idiot. Maybe he will claim he thought Righthaven was an off-shore bank and THAT'S why he cut them a check.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
12. Intent to follow rules goes a long way for a judge or a jury.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:32 PM
Jun 2012

It wasn't the deciding factor, according to what I've read, but it's one of those little things that matter.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
22. Did that piece even get adjudicated?
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:15 AM
Jun 2012

My understanding is it never got past "standing" and the whole mess unraveled.

But, yes, I agree on your point.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
26. Harm comes before standing.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:02 AM
Jun 2012

In order to show standing, you have to demonstrate the harm you are standing for.

Imagine it the other way around:
"I'm here to sue"
"Why?"

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
27. Free Republic was sued by the LA Times and Washington Post.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:25 AM
Jun 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.A._Times_v._Free_Republic

L.A. Times v. Free Republic is a 1998 United States district court copyright law case. Several newspapers sued the Internet forum Free Republic for allowing its users to repost the full text of copyrighted newspaper articles, asserting that this constituted copyright infringement. Free Republic claimed that they under the doctrine of fair use and the First Amendment guarantee of freedom of speech the reposting of articles were not liable. The federal courts ruled in favor of the newspapers.



Not by some shitass company that tried to make a buck by copyrighting articles they found posted on websites, which is pretty much what Righthaven did.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Righthaven

Righthaven LLC is a copyright holding company founded in early 2010, which enters agreements from its partner newspapers after finding that their content has been copied to online sites without permission, in order to engage in litigation against the site owners for copyright infringement. The lawsuits have been heavily criticized by commentators, who describe the activity as copyright trolling and the company as a "lawsuit factory". Righthaven LLC's CEO, Steven Gibson, is a partner in the Las Vegas office of American law firm Dickinson Wright and regularly speaks to the media about Righthaven.


As far as I know, no major newspaper has ever sued Democratic Underground.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
28. Free repubic was also sued and settled with righthaven:
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:31 AM
Jun 2012
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/oct/20/righthaven-defendant-wins-first-lawsuit-dismissal-/
Separately, Righthaven reached additional confidential settlements with these defendants:

--Gaming industry publisher Anthony Curtis, whose case attracted attention since it involved a story Curtis had made possible by supplying information to the Review-Journal

--The Free Republic, a big conservative website
--John Glenn

--Herbalscience Ltd.

--Bisig Impact Group

--American Political Action Committee

--Tom Johnson and Alan Potasnik

--Breakdown of America and Stacy Nason

--Dr. Shezad Malik Law Firm

wingzeroday

(189 posts)
30. FR
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jun 2012

Did settle with RH. It was buried somewhere in between all the posts they made about how the Somali Piracy incidents would cease if ransoms were no longer paid.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. They earn every penny!
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:14 PM
Jun 2012

Keeping DU neat and clean, free from SPAM and Trolls.

Good show DU legal team. And good show MIRT.

Thanks, Skinner and Co.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
16. As I understand the legal world, there is a difference between receiving a judgement and actually..
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:50 PM
Jun 2012

collecting on it. Would any of you legal types out there care to comment on what the chances are of DU actually receiving any pay dirt on this one?

dsc

(52,160 posts)
18. let's just say I wouldn't be spending the money yet
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:59 PM
Jun 2012

We are definitely behind all the previous judgements handed out (presuming those lawyers followed through on attaching assets). My guess is we will get nothing unless either a) right haven has been hiding assets and we find them before any other creditors do or b) the limited assets that right haven has turn out to be less limited than we think.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
21. Slim to none and slim just left town.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:05 AM
Jun 2012

Righthaven's office shit has already been auctioned. Much to my chagrin, the CEO's headset was a popular item. I suggested Skinner buy it and mount it on the DU office wall. I wasn't the only one who thought that would be a nice trophy.

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