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NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 10:33 AM Jun 2012

Obama administration stops deporting young immigrants

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) -- The Obama administration said Friday it will stop deporting young illegal immigrants who were brought to the United States as children if they meet certain requirements.

The election-year policy change will cover people younger than 30 who came to the United States before the age of 16, pose no criminal or security threat, and were successful students or served in the military, the Department of Homeland Security said.

It also will allow those meeting the requirements to apply for work permits, the statement said.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/15/politics/immigration/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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Obama administration stops deporting young immigrants (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 OP
Right wing heads just exploded Iliyah Jun 2012 #1
Yes, I just heard about it driving about listening to Diane Rehm on NPR. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 #2
Telemundo's Jose Diaz Balart just said on MSNBC, 'This is a big (pause) deal!' flpoljunkie Jun 2012 #21
This is WONDERFUL news... YvonneCa Jun 2012 #5
congratulations to all of those Dreamers Slit Skirt Jun 2012 #3
Border Klan will get all wound up over this. Screw em. Hoyt Jun 2012 #4
Border Klan Meiko Jun 2012 #15
Yes they do -- Minutemen, Republicans, TBaggers and other whack jobs that hate minorities. Hoyt Jun 2012 #17
Only in your mind Meiko Jun 2012 #18
Still here, look it up. SPLC is a good source for these types. Hoyt Jun 2012 #23
Link is bad Meiko Jun 2012 #24
What exactly is he saying here? Meiko Jun 2012 #6
The Dream Act is legislation - this is immigration policy. ehrnst Jun 2012 #7
Thanks Meiko Jun 2012 #11
Using the word "Mexicans" to describe all illegal immigrants or hispanics is commonly derisive. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2012 #12
Wouldn't want to do that Meiko Jun 2012 #14
My apologies - I have relatives that use"Mexican" as a racist euphemism for hispanic. ehrnst Jun 2012 #25
Do you know any "Dream Act" kids? roody Jun 2012 #8
My oldest Meiko Jun 2012 #13
This WILL go over VERY well... YvonneCa Jun 2012 #9
I hope it works out for him Meiko Jun 2012 #16
What is wrong with helping Hispanics "stay here" who have worked hard and lived decent lives? Hoyt Jun 2012 #20
There's still hope jade3000 Jun 2012 #10
+1. they must feel like they are rolling a huge rock up a steep hill. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 #19
Thank goodness for election years. roody Jun 2012 #32
BBC link dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #22
Amnesty DustyJoe Jun 2012 #26
If those 800,000 job seekers find jobs... Comrade Grumpy Jun 2012 #28
Yes! When employment goes up, the economy follows suit.(nt) ehrnst Jun 2012 #29
Sorry to be the lone dissenter Pavlo Jun 2012 #37
Yeah, whatever...considering he's already talking about kids that are already here...and have been Katashi_itto Jun 2012 #41
Kinda sucks Pavlo Jun 2012 #46
Enjoy your short stay. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #44
Oh, Pavlo kurtzapril4 Jun 2012 #45
They are already working under the table, roody Jun 2012 #33
Good move. Now, let's pass the DREAM Act. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2012 #27
A nice companion article: Joy and anger as Obama relaxes deportation rules OKNancy Jun 2012 #30
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2012 #31
Good thing to do and GREAT move - now Repubs have to come out against kids who are here by no choice underpants Jun 2012 #34
HUGE K&R blaze Jun 2012 #35
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #36
K&R Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #38
Southwest Florida activists praise immigration policy change; Tea Party decries Obama's plan pampango Jun 2012 #39
Let hope the TPers and GOPers keep it up.. DCBob Jun 2012 #40
This is a very big deal. And that's PRECISELY why the right-wing media RufusTFirefly Jun 2012 #42
This is HUGE! I heard the heads of the bigots popping. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #43
This is wonderful news, but the next step remains pushing for real comprehensive Proles Jun 2012 #47

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Right wing heads just exploded
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 10:57 AM
Jun 2012

and snot is flowing out their noses, foam from their mouths and right now they are writing misspelled posters showing Pres O with a bone in this nose and gold chains.

How dare Pres O give educational rights to those "brown people" - its all political!!!!

Also I just heard that it pertains to 30 year olds and under and they can get job permits, et al.,

What majority people don't realize although in California I know the Latino community is large we also have many illegal Asians, Africans and Europeans, middle easterners, etc. so this reversal al helps them as well.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
5. This is WONDERFUL news...
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jun 2012

...from the Obama Administration. As a retired California teacher, so many bright, hard-working students I taught were caught up in this trap through no fault of their own. Facing a future where...no matter how hard they studied and worked and succeeded in the school system...their dreams of jobs, college and living the American Dream were blocked which often led to dropping out from school and/or just giving up on education. Motivation suffered. As a teacher, there was little I could do other than promise them that one day things would get better.

Now these students will see a clear path to success and their dreams for the future. That motivation will carry over into the classroom and propel more kids into college. Teachers won't have to just promise, they will be able to help students reach their goals.

This is FANTASTIC news! This is a PROMISE KEPT.

Slit Skirt

(1,789 posts)
3. congratulations to all of those Dreamers
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 10:58 AM
Jun 2012

It was an honor to meet some of them as they walked across Colorado

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. Yes they do -- Minutemen, Republicans, TBaggers and other whack jobs that hate minorities.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:31 PM
Jun 2012
 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
6. What exactly is he saying here?
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jun 2012

Is he going to sign the dream act" into law. If not how is he going to be able to make arbitrary decisions without congress being involved. Can he do it with executive order? This not going to go over well especially since he reneged on his marijuana promises and now he is helping Mexicans stay here, many illegal. I don't understand you president Obama.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
7. The Dream Act is legislation - this is immigration policy.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:13 PM
Jun 2012

The Dream Act is a path to citizenship - this change is immigration policy is not a path to citizenship. It will extend a 2 year work permit that will need to be renewed. They will be documented workers - but not citizens. If they are legally documented - then they are no longer undocumented "Mexicans."


And by the way - "Mexicans" are not the only immigrants who will be given a path to documentation. Don't worry - there will be "white" people helped too.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
11. Thanks
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:23 PM
Jun 2012

for the explanation.

And by the way - "Mexicans" are not the only immigrants who will be given a path to documentation. Don't worry - there will be "white" people helped too.


This is uncalled for. There was nothing malicious in my post. People need to stop being so sensitive about every little thing

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
12. Using the word "Mexicans" to describe all illegal immigrants or hispanics is commonly derisive. (nt)
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:24 PM
Jun 2012
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
25. My apologies - I have relatives that use"Mexican" as a racist euphemism for hispanic.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:49 PM
Jun 2012

My son is in a Spanish/English dual immersion elementary school, and he counts among his friends kids whose parents work in the Embassies of Spain and Argentina.

Those kids are not citizens, and neither are their parents, but they are fully documented and "legal." The kids speak both English and Spanish fluently.

There are kids in his school whose parents are from Hondouras, Ecuador, El Savador and Chile, along with a small number of kids from Mexico. My son's Spanish language homeroom teacher is originally from Mexico, and got his Masters in education from University of Seville.

My son knows the difference between Ecuadoran and Chilean accents and can point out a European Spanish speaker very easily.

Here, the term "Mexicans" is only used to describe those people who are from Mexico, and only in the context of geography and family - not a strata of the population that is looked down on as "illegal."

Once when my son was 6 and we were in the car with another family from his school, and he said, "The truck with the Mexican driving it has a cute dog." We all froze for a minute. I asked, "Why did you say he was Mexican?" His response, "He has the flag of Mexico on his back windshield and there's Mariachi music on his radio." We all sighed in relief.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
13. My oldest
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jun 2012

Son went to school with several kids who were in this limbo. His best friend spent so much time at the house I called him son. He is in ASU now.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
9. This WILL go over VERY well...
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:19 PM
Jun 2012

...with Democrats. President Obama believes in inclusion. He also knows these children did not break the law.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
16. I hope it works out for him
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jun 2012

He will be doing a good thing and a bunch of people will get the help they need.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
20. What is wrong with helping Hispanics "stay here" who have worked hard and lived decent lives?
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jun 2012

jade3000

(238 posts)
10. There's still hope
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:22 PM
Jun 2012

Every couple of months the Obama admin does something progressive, and I have a little hope again. It's political calculus in this case, but I'll take what I can get.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
19. +1. they must feel like they are rolling a huge rock up a steep hill.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jun 2012

he was elected into an impossible situation - and we so need him to carry through for the next four years.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
22. BBC link
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:35 PM
Jun 2012

The US is to end deportations of illegal immigrants who came to the US as children and to offer the chance to apply for work permits.

Under a new plan, those aged between 16 and 30 who have lived in the US continuously for five years would be eligible to stay in the US.

The plan, which goes into effect immediately, is expected to affect as many as 800,000 people.

The move is seen as addressing a key Latino concern in an election year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18460894

btw I duplicated your post by accident earlier but now self deleted.

DustyJoe

(849 posts)
26. Amnesty
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:34 PM
Jun 2012

I do hope though my unemployed children and grandchildren can get a job before 800,000 more jobseekers hit the market.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
28. If those 800,000 job seekers find jobs...
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:48 PM
Jun 2012

...they will create more jobs. They buy food and clothes and all kinds of things.

It's not a zero sum game.

 

Pavlo

(42 posts)
37. Sorry to be the lone dissenter
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:58 PM
Jun 2012

I don't agree with this move of amnesty for 800,000 for undocumented workers.
My documented union brother and sisters, my tax paying neighbors friends and college kids are either unemployed of underemployed. Now you think it is a good time to flood jobs market the 800,000 undocumented workers that are willing to work for less then the federal minimum wage?

This is a reward to who? president just said in Cleveland the he was the champion of Middle class.
we are all middle class and he is stepping and extinguishing the life out of the very people he
proposes to champion his efforts for. He is not helping our families, but talking out of both sides of his mouth.

I don't agree with this at all it could not come at a worse economic time. what is he thinking?

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
41. Yeah, whatever...considering he's already talking about kids that are already here...and have been
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jun 2012

already been that are willing to work for less then the federal minimum wage, BECAUSE they are illegal...sort of blows your pathetic argument. Not that I would call you a shill...oh never.. (Snicker)

 

Pavlo

(42 posts)
46. Kinda sucks
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 04:03 PM
Jun 2012

when you have a different point of view on Du.
Seems to me group thought is all that is required and
rewarded here. The whole point of my post was that all these
undocumented workers will now be allowed to enter the job market, "Legally".
They will all be competing here with workers who were born here, paid taxes here,
own homes here and just want to provide for their family. Snicker all you like
but I have done nothing to these undocumented workers, but once they flood the job market
which is already depressed, many legal American workers will be competing for jobs
with them. Then they will inturn be doing something that is harmful to the American worker. This is nothing more than political stroke, dash stroke. Now close the lid on your box because I just don't agree with you.




kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
45. Oh, Pavlo
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jun 2012

Don't be bringing stuff like this up. Knees will be bouncing off chins all over DU. Who cares if legal citizens can't find jobs? The middle class is hated by the right....and the left.

roody

(10,849 posts)
33. They are already working under the table,
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 05:40 PM
Jun 2012

and labor standards are lowered. This will lift all boats.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
30. A nice companion article: Joy and anger as Obama relaxes deportation rules
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 04:48 PM
Jun 2012
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/15/us-usa-immigration-youth-idUSBRE85E1DQ20120615

Undocumented Mexican youths who came to the United States as children reacted with joy to an Obama administration rule change on Friday that could spare them deportation, although opponents slammed it as amnesty and ridiculous.

"It hasn't really sunk in entirely, but I feel a sense of joy and happiness because I know this is really going to change my life," said Justino Mora, 22, an undocumented computer science student at UCLA in Los Angeles.

Mora is among an estimated 800,000 illegal immigrants up to 30 years old who came to the United States as children and will benefit by the surprise order announced by U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

"I will have the opportunity to ... create my own business so that I can help ... my family financially and create the jobs that the U.S. needs," Mora told Reuters.

underpants

(182,789 posts)
34. Good thing to do and GREAT move - now Repubs have to come out against kids who are here by no choice
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 06:51 PM
Jun 2012

of their own.

Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

pampango

(24,692 posts)
39. Southwest Florida activists praise immigration policy change; Tea Party decries Obama's plan
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:14 AM
Jun 2012

Southwest Florida activists and attorneys for immigrants praised President Obama's announcement Friday about the immigration policy change, though some questioned the timing and how it would be carried out.

Ricardo Skerrett, a Fort Myers immigration attorney, said the policy provides for a temporary relief from deportation but provides no long-term stability. Skerrett said it’s unknown whether the young people will become eligible for in-state tuition, which was a rallying cry and sticking point of the DREAM Act.

Kathy Jones, an organizer with the Lee County Tea Party and chairwoman for Lee County Patriots, does not think that the change will benefit the local economy. She thinks a chunk of the money that is earned will be sent to other countries. She pointed to high unemployment rates among minorities with U.S. residency.

“There’s so many people in this country that need jobs,” Jones said. “I think it’s just nonsense...this action on the part of the president really is political pandering.”

http://www.news-press.com/article/20120615/NEWS01/120615015/1082/COLUMNISTS39/Southwest-Florida-activists-praise-Obama-immigration-policy-change?odyssey=nav%7Chead

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
40. Let hope the TPers and GOPers keep it up..
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:26 AM
Jun 2012

That will alienate the Hispanics and other immigrants even more from the GOP and solidify their support for the President and ensure most of them will show up in Nov.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
42. This is a very big deal. And that's PRECISELY why the right-wing media
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 02:24 PM
Jun 2012

... are working so very hard to draw attention away from this announcement. And by most indications, they are succeeding.

I am pretty appalled and depressed at how easily people -- even many here -- have fallen for it.

Although no one who knows me would ever accuse me of being a knee-jerk Obama booster, I applaud the president for this decision.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
43. This is HUGE! I heard the heads of the bigots popping.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 02:27 PM
Jun 2012

This will clinch the Democrats gaining the Latino vote for a generation.

Proles

(466 posts)
47. This is wonderful news, but the next step remains pushing for real comprehensive
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 06:28 PM
Jun 2012

immigration reform... more easily done with a Democratic congress obviously.

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