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George II

(67,782 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:46 PM Jun 2016

On Verge of Nomination Clinch, Clinton Wins in Puerto Rico

Source: MSNBC

Hillary Clinton won the Puerto Rico primary Sunday, edging her even closer to the delegate majority she needs to become the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party.

A total of 60 pledged delegates were at stake in the island primary contest.

Many Puerto Rico voters faced long lines and confusion over polling stations, many of which had closed since the Democratic primary in 2008. The island is also in the throes of an economic crisis after having accumulated more than $70 billion of outstanding debt.

Gov. Alejandro Padilla endorsed Clinton on Wednesday, calling her the best candidate to help the government out of the fiscal crisis.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/verge-nomination-clinch-clinton-wins-puerto-rico-n586126



Updated, MSNBC now has a story on their website.
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On Verge of Nomination Clinch, Clinton Wins in Puerto Rico (Original Post) George II Jun 2016 OP
I saw Ruchard Lui call it!!! bravenak Jun 2016 #1
Final delegate count could win her the nomination. onehandle Jun 2016 #2
The gals and I saw Gallagher the comic in performance. sister_rosa_refried Jun 2016 #5
LOVE IT! Never saw him live, but had several of his videos - the Sledge-O-Matic George II Jun 2016 #11
That would be unfair wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #53
CNN and Pasquines also called it for Hillary. DCBob Jun 2016 #3
HIllary spanking Bern in PR,,,,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2016 #4
That's what I read, too. With her count now up to 2359, the 40 who want to declare NOW.... George II Jun 2016 #7
On Verge of Nomination Clinch Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #6
Florida has many Puerto Ricans bluestateguy Jun 2016 #8
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #30
I agree. JimDandy Jun 2016 #32
They used to not call elections... ReRe Jun 2016 #9
Oh? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #17
I don't care who the candidate is... ReRe Jun 2016 #33
They do that if... Feathery Scout Jun 2016 #24
Thanks for explanation. n/t ReRe Jun 2016 #34
Minus 548 humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #10
Supers can pledge their vote any time they want ! Cryptoad Jun 2016 #12
and they can change it anytime humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #13
these are Democrats,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2016 #16
Some fiber might help you, dear sister_rosa_refried Jun 2016 #20
Ridiculous comparison. Insulting. Justice Jun 2016 #60
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #40
Enjoy your stay shenmue Jun 2016 #55
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #57
Pledged delegates don't vote until the convention either. Does that mean it's 0-0? It is over. George II Jun 2016 #14
Why do you play like that? humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #15
Nothing personal but Cryptoad Jun 2016 #18
Seriously that is your response? humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #21
Seriously Cryptoad Jun 2016 #27
Yeah we're all part of the VRWC humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #35
this is exactly the attitude, writ large among HRC supporters & surrogates, that could elect Trump cloudythescribbler Jun 2016 #49
Steal the nomination? hot2na Jun 2016 #54
If Clinton has a majority of pledged delegates, why should she not have a majority... George II Jun 2016 #23
Because she is counting on humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #26
No, she counted on Democrats all across the country to nominate her, and that they did. George II Jun 2016 #41
Bernie is a super delegate. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #45
And NO ONE can count his vote until the convention--no assumption can be made how he'll vote!!1! SunSeeker Jun 2016 #50
Lol! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #51
She will be the Presumptive nominee, not the official nominee. Feathery Scout Jun 2016 #19
She's the presumptive nominee on Tuesday geek tragedy Jun 2016 #28
YOU might not be able to, but the Associated Press has counted them in every election pnwmom Jun 2016 #47
So,How Many Delegates Does She Get? TomCADem Jun 2016 #22
Between 35 and 40 in Puerto Rico. George II Jun 2016 #25
So around 14 to go? Stuckinthebush Jun 2016 #29
Superdelegates are not bound - TBF Jun 2016 #31
Awww.... Tarc Jun 2016 #37
They don't seem to understand this humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #38
Enough with the indictment BS hot2na Jun 2016 #52
O hai shenmue Jun 2016 #56
Sanders Has 42.8% of the vote to Clinton's 55.4% Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #39
We can talk about election fraud - TBF Jun 2016 #59
As Casey Kasem Would Say, "Sen. Sanders, Here's Your Long-Distance Dedication" Norman Conch Quest Jun 2016 #36
Whee shenmue Jun 2016 #43
Yep shenmue Jun 2016 #42
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #44
KnR! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #46
Kick & highly Recommended! William769 Jun 2016 #48
K&R! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2016 #58

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. Final delegate count could win her the nomination.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jun 2016

And if not, she will win when polls close in New Jersey, three hours before California starts counting.

5. The gals and I saw Gallagher the comic in performance.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:53 PM
Jun 2016

We were in the 1st row and were given tarps because he smashed various fruits.

I expect that GDP will be much like that on Tuesday.

wallyworld2

(375 posts)
53. That would be unfair
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:47 AM
Jun 2016

Clinton in 2008 Opposed Early Call of Primary, Told Media ‘Nomination Will Be Up to Superdelegates’


In 2008, in a move that surprised Democratic superdelegates as well as many in the media, Hillary Clinton issued a stern warning via letter to both the media and elected Democratic officials clarifying that “at this point, we do not yet have a nominee.”


Even more surprising, Clinton’s letter to the most powerful members of her party and the entirety of American media noted that even “when the last votes are cast in early June,” neither she nor her primary opponent would “have secured the nomination. It will be up to automatic delegates...to help choose our party’s nominee.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/clinton-in-2008-opposed-e_b_10245288.html

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
4. HIllary spanking Bern in PR,,,,,,,
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jun 2016

heard HRC is having to get SD wanting to go ahead and pledge now, not to until Tuesday

Oh Sweet Mother of Peril!

George II

(67,782 posts)
7. That's what I read, too. With her count now up to 2359, the 40 who want to declare NOW....
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jun 2016

...but will wait until Tuesday would bring her up to 2399.

It is OVER! Hillary Clinton, Presumptive Democratic Nominee for President!!

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
8. Florida has many Puerto Ricans
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jun 2016

Why would we want to nominate someone (Bernie) who couldn't win these voters in Florida and PR during the primary?

But, I do commend him for trying.

Response to bluestateguy (Reply #8)

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
9. They used to not call elections...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:59 PM
Jun 2016

... until at least 50% of the precincts had reported.
... As of now, 10PM, there are only 12% of the precincts reporting. Hmmmm.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
33. I don't care who the candidate is...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:30 PM
Jun 2016

... that's the way it always was before, and I have been around for a while and watched TV as the votes were coming in. Let's say for decades. Changes occur out of the blue with no explanation and it sort of stuns me. Don't YOU think it's unusual to call and election, with only 12% or 18% of the vote in?

Feathery Scout

(218 posts)
24. They do that if...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:17 PM
Jun 2016


Guessing that the first precincts first reported are the least friendly to the winner.

If the 12% of the votes that were first reported in....were from the most 'pro-Bernie' areas in the entire state, and Clinton was defeating him by a very large margin; then they would feel confident that the rest of the 'Clinton-friendly' areas will be even better....and they will predict a Clinton win early.

Happens a lot in blowouts.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
10. Minus 548
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jun 2016

You cannot seriously count super delegates until they vote at the convention. She will not clinch the nomination flat out and the super delegates can still switch to Sanders.... If she had reached the required amount without counting super delegates I would agree that she clinched and it was over but it is simply not the case....

Mission accomplished, I don't think so..

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
13. and they can change it anytime
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jun 2016

they want to so my point is valid it cannot be counted until the convention her declaring victory using super delegates is like Bush declaring mission accomplished on that carrier...

Response to Cryptoad (Reply #12)

Response to shenmue (Reply #55)

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
15. Why do you play like that?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jun 2016

Pledge delegates are based on winning states, the voters decided, you know democracy and stuff. Super delegates are insiders that like her, let's give Bernie a chance to win them over when he dominates in Cali... If she dares claim clinch before Cali is done voting it will not sit well with people like me.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
21. Seriously that is your response?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:15 PM
Jun 2016

I am a progressive proud to be if you mean the Democratic party is leaving me behind because it is enabling a lying, manipulative insider politician to steal the Democratic party nomination than your right maybe me and the thousands like me will leave the party, and you simply cannot win the GE without us so maybe you shouldn't be so quick to fold up your small tent.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
27. Seriously
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:24 PM
Jun 2016

i've been a progressive Democrat since 1968, and I know Bull Shit when i see it. dont let the screen door hit u in the ass on ur way out of the tent!

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
35. Yeah we're all part of the VRWC
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:32 PM
Jun 2016

.... Please clean you glasses off they are smeared with Hillary waste...

hot2na

(357 posts)
54. Steal the nomination?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:58 AM
Jun 2016

You really think that the nomination is being stolen, when Hillary has been dominating throughout the primaries by every possible measure. Dude you''re not in need of a new party, you're in need of a psychiatrist. That is tin foil hat territory.

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. If Clinton has a majority of pledged delegates, why should she not have a majority...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:15 PM
Jun 2016

...of the superdelegates? You know, democracy and stuff. When did the Sanders campaign "flip" and decide that superdelegates should NOT vote "with the people"?

What makes you think that if close to 600 superdelegates have committed to Clinton (as opposed to less than 50 to Sanders) he'll be able to "win them over"?

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
26. Because she is counting on
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:22 PM
Jun 2016

the oligarchy to coronate her, it is sickening in a democracy, but like I said if she somehow comes out claiming victory before the voting is over in Cali that will be bad news for her..... She should have the decency to wait it out since she is not the nominee until that point without counting those party siders..

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. No, she counted on Democrats all across the country to nominate her, and that they did.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jun 2016

Time to now start campaigning against Donald Trump.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
47. YOU might not be able to, but the Associated Press has counted them in every election
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:02 PM
Jun 2016

since 1984, when super delegates were introduced.

And they are including them in their delegate tracker right now.

https://interactives.ap.org/2016/delegate-tracker/

TBF

(32,056 posts)
31. Superdelegates are not bound -
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:29 PM
Jun 2016

but go ahead and try to depress the vote. Perhaps that will work for you in November as well?

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
38. They don't seem to understand this
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jun 2016

what will their response be when the FBI recommends indictment, I for one will congratulate Bernie for sticking it out and winning back all the super delegates as he becomes our nominee at the convention.... we don't need a scandal ridden candidate.... Go Bernie..

hot2na

(357 posts)
52. Enough with the indictment BS
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:47 AM
Jun 2016

Can we please stop buying into the right wing BS about the emails. It is just another hyped up nothing burger that the VRWC has been churning out about the Clintons for the last 20 years. Everyone of them has been investigated endlessly and has amounted to nothing. There is a fine line between defending the continuation of the primary based on an impeding faux scandal vs rooting for that faux scandal to take hold. It looks like from your comment that you have already passed that line.

TBF

(32,056 posts)
59. We can talk about election fraud -
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:42 AM
Jun 2016

but I'm sure you'll only deny that as well. All I can say is that Bernie supporters have documented all of this (and I am not talking about on this party site - I mean Reddit, Twitter, other places). We have evidence of rampant election fraud in many states - people completely disenfranchised by the process. You can all gloat all you want, but the chickens will come home to roost in November.

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