On Verge of Nomination Clinch, Clinton Wins in Puerto Rico
Source: MSNBC
Hillary Clinton won the Puerto Rico primary Sunday, edging her even closer to the delegate majority she needs to become the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party.
A total of 60 pledged delegates were at stake in the island primary contest.
Many Puerto Rico voters faced long lines and confusion over polling stations, many of which had closed since the Democratic primary in 2008. The island is also in the throes of an economic crisis after having accumulated more than $70 billion of outstanding debt.
Gov. Alejandro Padilla endorsed Clinton on Wednesday, calling her the best candidate to help the government out of the fiscal crisis.
Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/verge-nomination-clinch-clinton-wins-puerto-rico-n586126
Updated, MSNBC now has a story on their website.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)And if not, she will win when polls close in New Jersey, three hours before California starts counting.
sister_rosa_refried
(447 posts)We were in the 1st row and were given tarps because he smashed various fruits.
I expect that GDP will be much like that on Tuesday.
George II
(67,782 posts)wallyworld2
(375 posts)Clinton in 2008 Opposed Early Call of Primary, Told Media Nomination Will Be Up to Superdelegates
In 2008, in a move that surprised Democratic superdelegates as well as many in the media, Hillary Clinton issued a stern warning via letter to both the media and elected Democratic officials clarifying that at this point, we do not yet have a nominee.
Even more surprising, Clintons letter to the most powerful members of her party and the entirety of American media noted that even when the last votes are cast in early June, neither she nor her primary opponent would have secured the nomination. It will be up to automatic delegates...to help choose our partys nominee.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/clinton-in-2008-opposed-e_b_10245288.html
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Cheers!
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)heard HRC is having to get SD wanting to go ahead and pledge now, not to until Tuesday
Oh Sweet Mother of Peril!
George II
(67,782 posts)...but will wait until Tuesday would bring her up to 2399.
It is OVER! Hillary Clinton, Presumptive Democratic Nominee for President!!
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)So close!!
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Why would we want to nominate someone (Bernie) who couldn't win these voters in Florida and PR during the primary?
But, I do commend him for trying.
Response to bluestateguy (Reply #8)
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JimDandy
(7,318 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... until at least 50% of the precincts had reported.
... As of now, 10PM, there are only 12% of the precincts reporting. Hmmmm.
Here is NBC calling Washington state for sanders with 18% in.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... that's the way it always was before, and I have been around for a while and watched TV as the votes were coming in. Let's say for decades. Changes occur out of the blue with no explanation and it sort of stuns me. Don't YOU think it's unusual to call and election, with only 12% or 18% of the vote in?
Feathery Scout
(218 posts)Guessing that the first precincts first reported are the least friendly to the winner.
If the 12% of the votes that were first reported in....were from the most 'pro-Bernie' areas in the entire state, and Clinton was defeating him by a very large margin; then they would feel confident that the rest of the 'Clinton-friendly' areas will be even better....and they will predict a Clinton win early.
Happens a lot in blowouts.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)You cannot seriously count super delegates until they vote at the convention. She will not clinch the nomination flat out and the super delegates can still switch to Sanders.... If she had reached the required amount without counting super delegates I would agree that she clinched and it was over but it is simply not the case....
Mission accomplished, I don't think so..
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)they want to so my point is valid it cannot be counted until the convention her declaring victory using super delegates is like Bush declaring mission accomplished on that carrier...
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)they honor their pledges and oaths.
sister_rosa_refried
(447 posts)Justice
(7,187 posts)Response to Cryptoad (Reply #12)
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shenmue
(38,506 posts)Response to shenmue (Reply #55)
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George II
(67,782 posts)humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)Pledge delegates are based on winning states, the voters decided, you know democracy and stuff. Super delegates are insiders that like her, let's give Bernie a chance to win them over when he dominates in Cali... If she dares claim clinch before Cali is done voting it will not sit well with people like me.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)i think u are in need of another Party besides the Democratic Party.
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)I am a progressive proud to be if you mean the Democratic party is leaving me behind because it is enabling a lying, manipulative insider politician to steal the Democratic party nomination than your right maybe me and the thousands like me will leave the party, and you simply cannot win the GE without us so maybe you shouldn't be so quick to fold up your small tent.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)i've been a progressive Democrat since 1968, and I know Bull Shit when i see it. dont let the screen door hit u in the ass on ur way out of the tent!
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts).... Please clean you glasses off they are smeared with Hillary waste...
cloudythescribbler
(2,586 posts)hot2na
(357 posts)You really think that the nomination is being stolen, when Hillary has been dominating throughout the primaries by every possible measure. Dude you''re not in need of a new party, you're in need of a psychiatrist. That is tin foil hat territory.
George II
(67,782 posts)...of the superdelegates? You know, democracy and stuff. When did the Sanders campaign "flip" and decide that superdelegates should NOT vote "with the people"?
What makes you think that if close to 600 superdelegates have committed to Clinton (as opposed to less than 50 to Sanders) he'll be able to "win them over"?
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)the oligarchy to coronate her, it is sickening in a democracy, but like I said if she somehow comes out claiming victory before the voting is over in Cali that will be bad news for her..... She should have the decency to wait it out since she is not the nominee until that point without counting those party siders..
George II
(67,782 posts)Time to now start campaigning against Donald Trump.
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)It could be the deciding vote! He win
Feathery Scout
(218 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)She'll be the official nominee in July.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)since 1984, when super delegates were introduced.
And they are including them in their delegate tracker right now.
https://interactives.ap.org/2016/delegate-tracker/
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)nt
George II
(67,782 posts)Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)Lord, let this thing be over soon!
TBF
(32,056 posts)but go ahead and try to depress the vote. Perhaps that will work for you in November as well?
Superdelegates have always voted for the pledged delegate winner.
Let it sink in.
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)what will their response be when the FBI recommends indictment, I for one will congratulate Bernie for sticking it out and winning back all the super delegates as he becomes our nominee at the convention.... we don't need a scandal ridden candidate.... Go Bernie..
hot2na
(357 posts)Can we please stop buying into the right wing BS about the emails. It is just another hyped up nothing burger that the VRWC has been churning out about the Clintons for the last 20 years. Everyone of them has been investigated endlessly and has amounted to nothing. There is a fine line between defending the continuation of the primary based on an impeding faux scandal vs rooting for that faux scandal to take hold. It looks like from your comment that you have already passed that line.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Reality is fun, if you try.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)But he should be declared the winner? Sounds like you are trying to "depress" the vote.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016
TBF
(32,056 posts)but I'm sure you'll only deny that as well. All I can say is that Bernie supporters have documented all of this (and I am not talking about on this party site - I mean Reddit, Twitter, other places). We have evidence of rampant election fraud in many states - people completely disenfranchised by the process. You can all gloat all you want, but the chickens will come home to roost in November.
Norman Conch Quest
(64 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)sheshe2
(83,751 posts)Thanks George!