ISIS claims responsibility for Orlando Florida nightclub shooting: Amaq News Agency tied to group
Source: Daily Star (Lebanon)
CAIRO: ISIS' Amaq news agency said on Sunday that the Islamist militant group was responsible for the shooting that killed at least 50 people in a massacre at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida.
"The armed attack that targeted a gay night club in the city of Orlando in the American state of Florida which left over 100 people dead or injured was carried out by an Islamic State fighter," Amaq said.
Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2016/Jun-12/356615-isis-claims-responsibility-for-orlando-florida-nightclub-shooting-amaq-news-agency-tied-to-group.ashx
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Gore1FL
(21,130 posts)Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)..that being ISIS.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)What exactly do you think is going to happen now above and beyond whats already been happening?
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)How is "the game going to change"? What happens next?
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Boots on the ground? The whole deal?
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)atreides1
(16,076 posts)4) the term act of war means any act occurring in the course of
(A) declared war;
(B) armed conflict, whether or not war has been declared, between two or more nations; or
(C) armed conflict between military forces of any origin; and
(A)No declaration of war has been enacted
(B)The US does not recognize ISIS as a sovereign nation
(C)ISIS fighters are not regarded as military forces but as insurgents
None of those apply!!!
(5) the term domestic terrorism means activities that
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
This would be a better application. Remember the attacker was a natural born American citizen
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)We didn't mind the first few?
We won't care about this one...
We're too busy blaming Google, Banks, and Republicans for all our problems.
840high
(17,196 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)sofa king
(10,857 posts)America's gay community has worldwide reach and influence. They've already been the chosen punching bag of domestic conservatives for all of this millenium. Now they're the go-to target of international conservatives, too. While saddened by this violence, I am glad our enemies chose the gay community as their enemy, for they are the best equipped to lead the worldwide counteroffensive against conservative hatred.
It's going to encourage some of us, like me, to make the claim that there is no real difference between Christian conservatives and Islamic conservatives. The problem, the disease, is conservatism itself.
It's time to treat conservatism as what it really is: a mental disorder which has no place in politics or public service. It's time to treat our stupid, frightened, insane conservative friends as people in need of treatment. It's time to treat each one of them as an intellectually disabled time-bomb who needs to be identified, approached, and psychologically defused, rather than frightened and exploited for political and monetary gain.
It's not going to happen tomorrow, but the societies that survive the 21st Centuries are all going to have to come to terms with the fact that the small minded racists, homophobes, and misogynists among us, the fascists who long for an idealized past which never existed, they are all people whose minds have been poisoned with hate, and the hatred is a warning sign of the violence to come.
It is time to treat lack of tolerance as a mental illness which, until CURED, should limit the civic and political choices an individual can make. And yes, maybe being declared a conservative will limit one's access to guns, too.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)Response to Odin2005 (Reply #48)
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scscholar
(2,902 posts)You're wrong.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)The guns just made it easier to kill many. The hatred is what is responsible.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Otherwise, probably they were just "inspirational".
We live in an insane world, but the crazies have found each other.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Apparently he started exhibiting symptoms about 3 months after they got married, forcing her to flee the marriage.
That man should not have been allowed to buy a pea shooter let alone an assault rifle.
PatSeg
(47,419 posts)they are "just taking credit for it". So far there is no evidence that they were "involved" aside from possibly being an inspiration.
Gore1FL
(21,130 posts)They too a long time to claim responsibility--and didn't seem to do so until other information was revealed.
PatSeg
(47,419 posts)as so many try to politicize it.
Love you tagline!
cynzke
(1,254 posts)A heinous act is committed by a homophobic who happens to be Muslim. What a PERFECT OPPORTUNITY for ISIS. They can now HYPE this as evidence to their followers that ISIS has power and influence reaching throughout the world. Isis TAKES CREDIT because this HELPS them and they did not lift a finger themselves, just reaching out to those "lone wolves" they hope to catch with their hate and poison. And look how we are now scurrying around in a frenzy like ants who have been prodded by a stick!
And then in this country politicians can play on the fear and hate yet again. I really feel for anyone in the U.S. who can be perceived as Mideastern after politicians and the media hype Islamophobia 24/7. So many don't care about the victims as much as they care about what they can gain from this tragedy.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)and released it themselves I am going to go with just claiming credit in order to make themselves look more powerful than they really are.
7962
(11,841 posts)Or keep whistling past the graveyard like in the past?
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)Sadly, the American right and ruling elites refuses to admit why it is. Of course, that would make it difficult to sell continuing to do what hasn't worked.
7962
(11,841 posts)This guy checks off most of the boxes, and had been investigated by the FBI as well.
He calls in and tells why he's doing it.
And yet we still want to ignore the fact that many Islamic countries will actually KILL you for just being gay
I dont know what was "right wing" about this guy.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)spectrum. He was a fundamentalist nut job.
It was a Muslim so he was hated by the right. He was anti-gay, and he beat women, so he was hated by the left.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)Bernie Sanders got a ton of flak for switching from -I to -D. This killer has been a -D all his life. Kinda makes it hard to argue both sides of that fence.
Angel Martin
(942 posts)politicians included !
ck4829
(35,069 posts)They're not Beetlejuice.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)our government has been fomenting since we first threw our weight behind the Palestinian Nakkba in 1948, overthrew the Iranian government in 1953 and armed the mujahedin against the Russians in 1979. We've been destabilizing the region for generations. Things keep getting worse. Millions of people have been hurt, killed, displaced and terrorized. It didn't start coming home to roost until the first Twin Tower bombing in 1993. Our solution has been to double down and divert increasingly scarce resources to wars we won't win so we can maintain an empire that is crumbling from within.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Where's that hate come from in your theory?
What caused the blowback on Gays?
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)unravel, religious fundamentalism always rises up to demand the blood of unbelievers and other sinners . The Quran, like the Bible, requires homosexuals be put to death. The difference is that ISIS has replaced secular government with a murderous, inquisitorial theocracy that considers its holy book a governing document. They terrorize and murder to retain control. They target anyone different or insufficiently pious for punishment and even death. Gay infidels, especially Americans are prime targets of opportunity for such insane zeal and madness.
King_David
(14,851 posts)If they hate gays that much and try to kill us at every turn ,then fuck them , they should just GTFO of our breathing space.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)and were kept under control by secular governments in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria and Libya until we led the way in destroying those countries under the auspices of our neoconservative foreign policy establishment.
King_David
(14,851 posts)And if they can't accept Gays and continue to try wipe us out , fuck them ...
And this guy was an American born Muslim extremist hater ...what's that got to do with the ME or anything?
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)There was a very large American Nazi Party. That had plenty to do with Europe, and in its own right America has always been fertile ground for extremist bigotry and racism of all kinds. Homophobia has always been near the top of the chart.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Throwing Gay people off buildings, stoning Gays to death and killing 50 Gay ( so this murdering terrorist scum thought anyway) in cold blood.... This is a huge problem in backward countries and now this medieval backward hate is being brought to the USA.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Where do you think he learned this hatred against gays?
He had a lot of war time ME influence from his family. He was a screwed up young man who was filled with anger and hate, and took it out on his wife first. Then she left him...that made him even angrier, no doubt.
He bought into the ISIS hate and rage and professed to support them. That doesn't mean he ever communicated with them, and his ex wife and parents say he wasn't religious, so this wasn't about the Muslim faith. I think he was just a genuine homophobe with unmanageable hatred and rage, and finally lashed out at the thing he hated most. It probably didn't help the the FBI investigated him twice (and interviewed him) for racist and homophobic language he used in front of co-workers...they reported him. That just spurred on his rage.
He was a time bomb waiting to happen.
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)cynzke
(1,254 posts)There are plenty of Christian Groups/Pastors on video demanding that we execute Gays in this country and while we have YET to legislate from this prospective, have NO DOUBT that there have been attempts to TRY and there are plenty of people who want laws enacted that would allow radical punishment and death for LGBT's.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)I could be wrong, and I know spousal abuse is not uncommon anywhere, but I honestly don't think that most women or their parents will not put up with much of it regardless of what fundamentalist religion or culture have to say on the subject, and that plays in spades for premeditated mass murder.
Fundamentalist religion and culture are not peculiar to Islam. Sorry if I did not make that clear.
7962
(11,841 posts)What were we expecting after killing all those people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria! What surprises me is what took them so long. We have to stop the wars and help Israel turn around. This is why I won't vote for Hillary, she will give them more of the same and it will all continue.
King_David
(14,851 posts)How were we involved in all that?
Why is it that we are hated for what you've said there?
Your post makes no sense.
vkkv
(3,384 posts)Its our admin. who continue to refuse to mention "Islamic extremists"
WRONG
"" This guy checks off most of the boxes, and had been investigated by the FBI as well.
He calls in and tells why he's doing it.
And yet we still want to ignore the fact that many Islamic countries will actually KILL you for just being gay :"""""
"MANY"? AS IN MORE THAN SEVERAL? PLEASE NAME THREE AND PROVIDE PROOF OF YOU STATEMENT
"""" I dont know what was "right wing" about this guy. """""
HE WAS A U.S. CITIZEN.. WHO ALSO HAPPENED TO BE A WIFE-BEATING PSYCHO WHO WAS ALLOWED TO BUY A FIREARM.. FIREARM BEING CRUCIAL TO THE MASS MURDERING OBJECTIVE.
7962
(11,841 posts)By the way, "Many" & "several" mean the same thing.
Iran
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Sudan
Mauritania
here's one of the laws:
"Article 308: Any adult Muslim who has committed an indecent act or an act against nature with an individual of the same sex will be punished to death by public stoning. If the act is between two women, they will be punished by the punishment established in paragraph one of Article 306.
Look the rest up yourself; simply being gay is illegal in more than 50 countries.
cynzke
(1,254 posts)Who saw a brilliant opportunity to AGGRANDIZE himself INTO a roll as an international terrorist. He is PLAYING this country, showing the world we are paranoid racists who jump in fear at the mention of certain BUZZ WORDS.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)Like this guy.
The NRA and the Republican Congress are the direct enablers of this, as they recently blocked legislation to prohibit gun sales to people on the US terrorist watch list.
cynzke
(1,254 posts)at the time he bought his weapons.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)applegrove
(118,642 posts)wasn't actual ISIS claiming responsibility. Vibes to all the families, friends and victims.
King_David
(14,851 posts)applegrove
(118,642 posts)MowCowWhoHow III
(2,103 posts)https://twitter.com/AFP/status/742286243191488512
truthisfreedom
(23,146 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)we have all that so clearly defined.
They are trolling the United States.
ancianita
(36,053 posts)ancianita
(36,053 posts)Apparently the FBI Watch List needs better watching.