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Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:58 AM

Shooter’s Father Says ‘God Himself Will Punish ... Homosexuality’

Source: CNN

The father of the Orlando shooter said early Monday that his son shouldn’t have killed patrons at the gay nightclub Pulse because God will punish them, The Washington Post reported. “God himself will punish those involved in homosexuality,” Seddique Mateen said in Dari, speaking in a video posted to Facebook early Monday, per the Post’s translation. “This, is not for the servants” [of God].

The elder Mateen said that he was “saddened” by the shooting, which left 50 dead and dozens injured, the Post noted. While he told media outlets earlier that his son, Omar Mateen, was enraged by seeing two men kissing recently and was not motivated by religion, he said in the video that he did not know what pushed his son into committing mass murder.

Seddique Mateen, aka Mir Mateen, has also raised eyebrows for previous videos. The Guardian reported that in one recent Facebook video, he appears to act the part of Afghanistan’s president, telling the “revolutionaries of Afghanistan” to overthrow their current government. On a Facebook page titled “Provisional Government of Afghanistan,” he wears military fatigues and, speaking in Dari, orders the arrest of several political figures, including Afghan President Ashraf Ghani.


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Reply Shooter’s Father Says ‘God Himself Will Punish ... Homosexuality’ (Original post)
MariaThinks Jun 2016 OP
Archae Jun 2016 #1
leftynyc Jun 2016 #14
EL34x4 Jun 2016 #17
Archae Jun 2016 #21
6chars Jun 2016 #25
louis-t Jun 2016 #2
3catwoman3 Jun 2016 #28
brooklynite Jun 2016 #3
mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2016 #4
Ilsa Jun 2016 #27
exboyfil Jun 2016 #5
Warpy Jun 2016 #6
MariaThinks Jun 2016 #7
Warpy Jun 2016 #11
JudyM Jun 2016 #13
Lucky Luciano Jun 2016 #9
Warpy Jun 2016 #10
Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #12
Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #19
David__77 Jun 2016 #8
RogerM Jun 2016 #15
IronLionZion Jun 2016 #16
bluestateguy Jun 2016 #18
MariaThinks Jun 2016 #20
6chars Jun 2016 #26
Astraea Jun 2016 #22
MariaThinks Jun 2016 #24
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #23

Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:02 AM

1. The only gripe the right-wingers will have, is that the shooter and his Dad are Muslims.

Otherwise they'll approve of the killings, already the WBC is cheering for the shootings.

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Response to Archae (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:45 AM

14. Let me get this straight

 

You (and others) have absolutely zero problem with tagging ALL right wingers with the WBC but we suddenly get all pc and tongue tied when someone utters the words "Islamic extremism".

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Response to Archae (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:12 PM

17. The WBC? Really?

 

By no stretch of the imagination is the Westboro Baptist Church even remotely representative of mainstream American Christianity.

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Response to EL34x4 (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:56 PM

21. By all credible information, the WBC is a scam.

They make inflammatory comments and such, try to get assaulted, then they sue.

Just about anyone even remotely connected to those who assaulted them.

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Response to Archae (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:54 PM

25. Republicans I know are horrified

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:12 AM

2. Then let God do it...

asshole.

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Response to louis-t (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:11 PM

28. Exactly! If the God they they believe in is as powerful as they claim, surely...

...he/she/it does not need so many self-appointed agents on the planet and would be quite capable of taking care of things without puny and misguided human assistance.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:20 AM

3. "...and I can't imagine why my son would do such a thing"?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:22 AM

4. It just came right out of nowhere, didn't it? NT

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:13 PM

27. If no one had been hurt or killed, I'd be

feeling sorry for Omar. His father believed that the nature of his son was worthy of punishment before he ever did anything criminal. It's a tragedy no one was able to intervene and help him before his anger and self-loathing took over.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:27 AM

5. He wants to be Afghanistan's President

I say we give him the opportunity to campaign face to face. Put him on the next government flight to Kabul.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:29 AM

6. The full statement is on the BBC site

and the translation is a bit less inflammatory.

His dad looks absolutely destroyed.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:35 AM

7. interesting subject of your sympathy. I look at the victim's family and i see sorrow beyond belief

not sure how anyone who supports the Taliban could have a heart.

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Response to MariaThinks (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:13 AM

11. It's not a zero sum game, you know

nor is it a light switch mentality thing.

The assassin was 29 years old. His father's influence over him had likely ended some years ago. I see absolutely point in reviling the murderer's father.

And don't forget that a lot of people in Afghanistan supported the Taliban over the lawlessness of predatory warlords. Many still do.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:41 AM

13. His father's influence ended years ago?

So what do you suppose his father's response was was the son expressed anger and revulsion to him about the men he saw kissing? Hello: the father is a grotesquely hate-filled homophobe. If you don't call it influence, what do you call sharing a hatred so vehement that they bond over it?

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Response to Warpy (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:46 AM

9. But he said god should punish gays.

People who say such things are collectively complicit for the murders that occur due to this hate.

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:08 AM

10. Not really

There is a world of difference between "should" and "will." He's not ordering god around, in other words. Remember, being Muslim doesn't confer sole ownership of religious homophobia. There is plenty of it to go around to most religions, especially the desert ones.

He also said punishing sin is not for human beings to do.

Mostly he looks like a parent who's just had his guts ripped out and is trying to cope with what just happened.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:26 AM

12. Splitting hairs for homophobes.

 

nt

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:09 PM

19. Lots of that going on!

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:43 AM

8. Deleted.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:47 AM

15. BS family

Charity begins at home or in Matten's case radicalization begins at home.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:59 AM

16. Let's leave the judgment and punishment up to God OK?

And humans can just mind their own business.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:09 PM

18. Well then fuck him if that's how he feels. Deport him.

We have enough homophobe natural born citizens, we shouldn't be taking immigrants who espouse such crap.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:26 PM

20. That's too logical. At least we're not like the Brits who are actually paying welfare

to Imams that are asking for the destruction of Great Britain.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:58 PM

26. investigate him

you think he isn't involved in more? he is lying now, and is probably still covering up for his terrorist son.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:06 PM

22. If there is a god

and he doesn't punish twisted, sick, hateful fucks like this, it's not a god I want to believe in. I don't know how these people can look themselves in the mirror every day.

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Response to Astraea (Reply #22)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:44 PM

24. exactly.

They are disgusting perversions of what a human should be.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:51 PM

23. Deport him

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