Islamic State: Orlando shooter soldier 'of the caliphate in America'

[MariaThinks]

Source: USA Today

The Islamic State appeared to claim responsibility for the shooting in Orlando that killed at least 50 people, saying in a radio broadcast Monday that "one of the soldiers of the caliphate in America" carried out the attack at a gay nightclub in Florida.

While American-born Omar Mateen, 29, from Fort Pierce, Fla., pledged his allegiance to the Islamic State in a 911 call shortly before the assault, police say it is not yet known whether he had any direct contact or support from the extremist group. Mateen was born in New York, but was of Afghan descent.

The radio broadcast was published on social media


Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/13/islamic-state-orlando-shooter-soldier-caliphate-america/85817658/

[Silver_Witch]

1. Does it make people feel better

..to think that man was not born and raised in America! Seems so! He was you know! So some crazies claim he represents them. Bullshit. This man was raised here and WE LET HIM BUY A GUN!! He is American! Hates woman and gays. Heard and learned that hate here right here in America!

Stop promoting hate and then we can worry about the crazy people far far away!

[GummyBearz]

2. Wow

He pledged his allegiance to ISIS, not America. Read that a few times and spend 5 minutes thinking about who taught him to hate.

[Silver_Witch]

8. He went to our schools. He watched our TV.

He is not an outsider! He is us! If you want to be afraid of Islam then be afraid of all religion as they all teach hate!

The point is sensed to stop selling guns. We really really do!

[GummyBearz]

11. I fear anyone with a wish to kill people

I think that is natural. We should make a law that says killing people is illegal. That way no one can kill someone. Then I would feel safe

[Silver_Witch]

15. What an idiotic statement!

Only fools imply killing is not illegal!

[GummyBearz]

16. Or don't understand the use of sarcasm in a discussion...

nt

[GummyBearz]

14. On the point of him going to our schools and watching our TV:

Source: Washington Post

At a high school in Florida, students watched the horrors of Sept. 11, 2001, unfold on live TV. When the second hijacked airliner slammed into the World Trade Center’s south tower, the class watched in stunned disbelief. But one student, a classmate recalled, “started jumping up-and-down cheering on the terrorist.”

That was sophomore Omar Mateen, according to one of the accounts from Martin County High School remembering 9/11 and the reaction by the student who, nearly 15 years later, would carry out the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.


Yea, sure sounds like he was a true American.

[smirkymonkey]

29. Wow!

I'm amazed he didn't get the shit kicked out of him by his classmates.

[patsimp]

21. do you care at all about the slaughtered victims?

[FrodosPet]

25. I went to our schools. I watched our TV

I am not an outsider! I am us! I grew up as a baptist. Fundamentalist Protestant, apocalyptic exclusionary, judgemental (but they tempered it with "We are ALL sinners! We ALL screw up all the time. We all need to repent and seek forgiveness&quot .

I have never shot up, nor wanted to shoot up, any group of people.

If the problem is that he went to our schools and watched our TV, and that is what turned him into a monster, why isn't everybody in America who was born and raised here a monster?

[EX500rider]

27. "be afraid of all religion as they all teach hate"

I don't recall the Episcopalian church I went to as a child preaching any kind of hate.

[uppityperson]

17. He pledged allegiance daily in school to USA and once in a phone call to ISIS

So stop with the "didn't pledge to the USA" stuff.

[GummyBearz]

19. That is funny

You seem like a funny person. You witnessed him pledge allegiance to the USA? Sure doesn't sound like he was allied to the USA. And we stopped that daily routine in about 1990. Not like it means shit. Actions and words are a little bit different.

[uppityperson]

20. They were still doing the pledge in 2000 when my kid was in school.

[GummyBearz]

22. Dunno where you live

I went to different middle schools in California. I remember saying the pledge up to the 5th grade then we stopped in 6th grade (1990), we moved, I went to a new school and we didn't say it in 7th or 8th or any time in high school. I don't even remember how it goes after the first 2 lines.

Point being, just because you recite the pledge doesn't mean America has your allegiance, as we can see in this case.

[uppityperson]

23. WA. My kid came home complaining about the"song" they made them do every day.

I was surprised as I thought they'd given up on that.

[Igel]

4. Where do *you* think he learned that hate?

And do you really want to have child protective services do an ideological investigation of every set of parents or the Department of Religious Truth investigate every place of worship for fidelity to the Federal Statement of True Religious Principles? Or maybe get the Federal Internet Truth and Accuracy Agency involved, lest somebody click on the wrong site?

Or is this just a way of saying, "He learned it somewhere, he might have learned it from Fox, therefore he must have learned it from Fox"? Because if that's a syllogism, it's one that's spelled f-a-l-l-a-c-y.


Freedom entails risk. No matter how much you want to mitigate that risk, the two are connected. Except things like "freedom from want," where you can have a completely repressive society that, so long as you submit, provides for you. (Then, of course, it's easy to have a parasitism law: If you have no valid, state-approved means of support you're a parasite; of course, the state can fire you, depriving you of that means of support, then arrest you for not having a job. And those Georgia girls really knock me out.)

[Silver_Witch]

10. I suspect he learned it from us!

It seems he father was mentally I'll as well based on reports this morning.

Giving guns to angry men seems like a bad idea to me.

[MariaThinks]

5. two things enabled the radicalized killer

1. his allegiance to isis, a father who supports the Taliban and who hates homosexuals
2. his ability to get guns. Of course, if he did not have that ability, he could have used explosives like the radical Islamic murderers did with the boston marathon.

[PatrynXX]

3. Of course they would. Propaganda works Just ask Faux :(

= Trump and GOP wonders how they got a guy like Trump. Or why guns continue to sell (because duh Obama is gonna force himself a 3rd term and take away your guns. Except now thats not happening and people like my dad are in a nut. Like hey my dads Tea Party. You can't be Tea Party and vote for Donald Trump at the same time unless you believe the propaganda machine

[Spitfire of ATJ]

6. Daesh would claim responsibility for an outbreak of head lice.

[MariaThinks]

9. the murderer called 911 before his killing spree and pledged allegience to ISIS

[Spitfire of ATJ]

18. Oh sure, that means they get the credit.

[Silver_Witch]

12. Agreed!

[romanic]

7. ISIS is slowly being defeated in the ME

They'll use any tragedy commited by a Muslim extremist outside of their fake caliphate as propaganda to fuel more extremists.

[Silver_Witch]

13. Thank you!

[Marrah_G]

24. Agreed. I think many do not understand they are about to lose Fallujah and Raqqa

There are operations going on right now in both places. They are in such a state of panic they are shooting civilians trying to escape from Fallujah.

[redstateblues]

26. There is no caliphate-

[Astraea]

28. Pathetic. One guy = caliphate.

What a sick joke.