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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:58 PM Jun 2016

Apache Gunships Enter Combat As Iraqi Forces Encircle Mosul, Pentagon Says

Source: Washington Post

As Iraqi forces backed by U.S. support engage the Islamic State across multiple battlefronts in Iraq, Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter announced Monday that American Apache helicopter gunships had been used in combat for the first time since President Obama authorized their use in April.

Speaking to reporters during a flight to a meeting of NATO ministers in Brussels, Carter declined to go into details about the operation but said the Monday strikes were in support of Iraqi forces battling the Islamic State outside Mosul.

Several Apaches were involved in the attack, but only one fired, striking a vehicle, according to a senior defense official speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss current operations. The AH-64 Apache is an Army helicopter and often flies in pairs.

The use of the Apaches comes as Iraqi forces are making modest gains into Fallujah, one of the first major urban areas seized by the Islamic State two years ago. Around Mosul, Iraqi forces are slowly putting pressure on the city from the south and northeast.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/06/13/apache-gunships-enter-combat-as-iraqi-forces-encircle-mosul-pentagon-says/

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Apache Gunships Enter Combat As Iraqi Forces Encircle Mosul, Pentagon Says (Original Post) Purveyor Jun 2016 OP
Always interesting to see how the continuing Iraq war is going. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #1
Bringing democracy to an area controlled benld74 Jun 2016 #2
Hey, do you remember... bonemachine Jun 2016 #3
No. Igel Jun 2016 #5
Nice summary. n/t Calista241 Jun 2016 #8
welp... bonemachine Jun 2016 #13
There were 170,000 troops in Iraq when Obama took office, tabasco Jun 2016 #12
I had a feelin' this was on the menu. Ellipsis Jun 2016 #4
Unleash the beast !! I don't care if it's BunkieBandit Jun 2016 #6
Because you can't kill an idea. Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #7
"They hate us for our freedoms!" Nihil Jun 2016 #9
So who did the children and other innocents ShrimpPoboy Jun 2016 #10
Say "bye-bye" to a bunch of ISIS Toyota trucks tabasco Jun 2016 #11

benld74

(9,904 posts)
2. Bringing democracy to an area controlled
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jun 2016

By tribes for thousands of years.
Twas pipe dream fueled by oil dreams over ten years ago.
Remains a pipe dream today

Igel

(35,300 posts)
5. No.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jun 2016

I remember when Obama wanted to keep some troops in Iraq after the 2008 Status of Forces Agreement that called for a complete withdrawal was to come into effect. His State Dept. tried to deny it, but the Iraqi side had leaked it and the US finally fessed up.

His wanting to keep troops in Iraq created consternation among some (D). His being denied his request created some consternation among some (D).

Al-Maliki insisted that the SOFA be implemented as negotiated and signed. It was at that point that Obama unambiguously claimed credit for the SOFA, signed by the US and Iraq a month before Obama's inauguration.

Party unity on this point soon followed. Obama said he ended the war and the SOFA was mostly forgotten. Some tried to say he pushed for no troops; others claimed he'd signed the agreement. Mostly, (D) didn't understand what the SOFA even was so it didn't enter into their thinking. Whatever.

Bush II wasn't all that pleased about that part of the Status of Forces Agreement, from what was said at the time; he had the offer to keep troops there, but they'd get no special protection under Iraqi law, and that was unacceptable. In other words, Al-Maliki insisted on conditions that demanded a full withdrawal when talking to Bush II, and refused to budge when talking to Obama. Al-Maliki was likely wrong, I think; Bush and Obama, largely right, but it's impossible to know for sure, and different assumptions would lead to different judgements as to what would have been likely.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
12. There were 170,000 troops in Iraq when Obama took office,
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:47 AM
Jun 2016

there are now about 5,000.

So, yeah, I remember that.

BunkieBandit

(82 posts)
6. Unleash the beast !! I don't care if it's
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jun 2016

American, Russian, Syrian, Chinese. I don't care where it happens. ISIS, ISIL or DAESH is the scourge of mankind. There will never be peace but a never ending "War on Terror" as long those cowardly thugs are breathing. We can protest them, we can coddle them and pacify them, but they only want a caliphate and infidels to die. I really, really don't understand how humanity and ISIS can coexist.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
9. "They hate us for our freedoms!"
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:31 AM
Jun 2016

Primarily the freedom to blow the shit out of random foreigners anywhere around
the world just because we can ...

Team America Fuck Yeah!

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