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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 10:01 PM Jun 2016

Trump entered June with just $1.3 million in the bank, while Clinton sat on $42 million war chest

Source: Washington Post

Presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump loaned his campaign $2.2 million in May and collected $3.1 million in donations, ending the month with less than $1.3 million in bank, according to new campaign finance filings.

The real estate mogul's meager cash flow spotlighted the urgent need for him to dramatically ramp up the fundraising he's doing in conjunction with the Republican National Committee, a task he has fitfully embraced.

Trump's small haul came as presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton continued to stockpile money: she raised more than $28 million in May and started June with $42 million in cash. Clinton brought in nearly a third of her campaign funds last month through the Hillary Victory Fund, a joint fundraising committee with the Democratic National Committee and 32 state parties.

The billionaire developer has now loaned his campaign a total of $45.7 million and given it another $400,000, while collecting $17 million in contributions. In late May, Trump set up two joint fundraising committees with the RNC, a move that was supposed to help him and the party tap into a gusher of cash. But GOP fundraisers have said it has been difficult to line up donors to bundle checks from their friends and family.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/20/trump-entered-june-with-just-1-3-million-in-the-bank-while-clinton-sat-on-42-million-war-chest/



My original OP before I found a link:

Trump Releases Fundraising Numbers: 1.3 Million Cash On Hand

Reported live on MSNBC.

3.2 million total this month. This is virtually nothing.

Hillary raised 28 million this month. Even Romney raised 17 Million this same month in 2012.

I bet Bernie raised at least 10 million or more, his numbers are not out yet.
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Trump entered June with just $1.3 million in the bank, while Clinton sat on $42 million war chest (Original Post) onehandle Jun 2016 OP
I knew it was bad. herding cats Jun 2016 #1
Every dollar they burn on him is a dollar lost to Congressional campaigns. onehandle Jun 2016 #2
I'm loving watching this evolve. herding cats Jun 2016 #4
Why donate- he's repeatedly bragged he doesn't need it... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #3
Which big money donors have mentioned to the RNC. herding cats Jun 2016 #5
... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #7
Exactly! herding cats Jun 2016 #8
Does he really need it? Astraea Jun 2016 #6
When all the free stuff is negative... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #10
Yes. Drunken Irishman Jun 2016 #46
And I LOVE that! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #59
That's enough to pay the rent at Trump Tower for maybe 2 months bluestateguy Jun 2016 #9
I doubt it, I'll bet everything he owns is mortgaged to the hilt. olddad56 Jun 2016 #51
There's a Mega Millions Jackpot tomorrow! Joe Bacon Jun 2016 #11
Trump doesn't think he needs all that cash. During the primaries Jeb Bush outspent him totodeinhere Jun 2016 #12
Agreed about complacency, but his earned media strategy works against him in the General Recursion Jun 2016 #34
Yes no need for D complacency. Must win State Legislatures to kill gerrymander & Senate for SCOTUS.n Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #44
No need for complacency but a general is vastly different than a primary. Drunken Irishman Jun 2016 #47
$1.3M on hand? Time to file bankruptcy! nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #13
Your post made me wonder if he has gone back to stiffing his vendors RogueTrooper Jun 2016 #58
wonder what kind of ground game he'll have 6chars Jun 2016 #14
30 people for the entire country. No ground game at all. alfredo Jun 2016 #17
And there you have it bluestateguy Jun 2016 #15
Funny and actually dead on! nt 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #16
Everyone knows he's a complete farce... Hulk Jun 2016 #18
I've suspected this all along--Trump is actually broke... First Speaker Jun 2016 #19
USA Today - Pro-Trump super PAC uses Orlando attack in new ad TomCADem Jun 2016 #20
I'm looking foreword to the first debate Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #21
Why? Trump will not answer a single question... Moostache Jun 2016 #22
I can't decide if... Beartracks Jun 2016 #23
Do you foresee... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #24
Of course not! Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #25
His base firmly believes he will destroy Hillary... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #26
right, and I was remembering how aweful the repubs. debates were Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #27
He will show his ass trying... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #28
Hell, he spends 1.3M a month just in hair spray nt postatomic Jun 2016 #29
WTF? That would be low for a House race Recursion Jun 2016 #30
Holy fuck Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #31
You forgot "victims"... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #37
Suckers, you mean. Ask them "When" was America great (to be made as great again) & they sputter. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #43
Can't the billionaire class turn this around in a day? rusty quoin Jun 2016 #32
Money is the least of their worries. This is just propaganda from WP. harun Jun 2016 #65
At this rate it would take trump 1000 months to raise the amounts his campaign projected Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #33
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #35
Another lost soul you are. nt 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #40
Only "less" ? I'm not sure how to read your post. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #41
What is wrong with all of you ?? jknudsen Jun 2016 #36
Are you lost? 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #38
"you all" ? Are you excluding yourself? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #42
What is wrong with all of you ? jknudsen Jun 2016 #67
Life sucks, Trumpster. Maybe you need to sink all your "billions" into your campaign Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #39
Hillary is going to stomp his a$$ mwrguy Jun 2016 #45
As Nelson would utter, "Ha ha" ............NT vkkv Jun 2016 #48
that 1.3m probably exceeds his personal wealth. olddad56 Jun 2016 #49
put a fork in the Donald olddad56 Jun 2016 #50
As has already been pointed out, SheilaT Jun 2016 #52
That's not enough. I better donate more to HRC. ffr Jun 2016 #53
trump's situation is so totally dire. The gop has got to be freaked to the max. truthisfreedom Jun 2016 #54
Drumpt is finding out you can't pay for an election with donated kairos12 Jun 2016 #55
So NICE of WaPo to represent Drumpf as some sort of 'Poor Underdog' ... whilst Hillary ... brett_jv Jun 2016 #56
Good lord Egnever Jun 2016 #57
the bulk of trump supporters have no money after they buy beer and ammo beachbum bob Jun 2016 #60
Trump was never serious about winning FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #61
This means nothing--it could even be a negative factor randr Jun 2016 #62
Only in primaries. The GE is a difference animal. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #63
We are about to find out how disgusted the people are with the system as we know it randr Jun 2016 #64
I better contribute to Trump's campaign. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #66
Kick sarcasmo Jun 2016 #68
few people want to waste money on a loon 300gools Jun 2016 #69

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
4. I'm loving watching this evolve.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 10:08 PM
Jun 2016

It's actually turning out to be worse than even I expected. Which is saying a lot!

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
46. Yes.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:43 AM
Jun 2016

Media attention is only half the equation in a general election campaign. It might work in a primary, where you're going after isolated voters, but overall, especially when the message is negative, you need some counter. Trump gets headlines, but he also gets a lot of negative press along with it. The thing is, though, general election campaigns are so different than primary campaigns that you do need a major investment at the local level. Where Trump thrived was building momentum out of victories. That doesn't exist in a general, as each state votes the same way.

If he has no money to build a ground infrastructure, especially in battle ground states, he's going to be in a lot of trouble.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
59. And I LOVE that!
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:04 AM
Jun 2016

I know that I am a BAD person to be so happy about Trump's financial misfortune. But I just can't help myself!

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
12. Trump doesn't think he needs all that cash. During the primaries Jeb Bush outspent him
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 10:16 PM
Jun 2016

by better than 10-1 and got drubbed anyway.

My point is that this is no reason for complacency.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
34. Agreed about complacency, but his earned media strategy works against him in the General
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:40 AM
Jun 2016

Even as his support among Republicans grew from his outbursts (that's the "earned media&quot his disapproval among the general election shot up. That's pretty much a one for one tradeoff, and he's not going to win with the 40% of the Republican party that he already has.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
47. No need for complacency but a general is vastly different than a primary.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:53 AM
Jun 2016

In a primary, you're not running a 50 state campaign - or even a 20 state campaign. You're essentially focused on a collection of states to build momentum and then you use that momentum to win in other states. Trump didn't need to spend gobs of cash because his focus all along was those early primary states.

But with him at the top of the ticket, he's going to be forced to defend way more states than a typical Republican. Take Utah for example. That's like a Democrat defending Vermont, campaigning in Vermont, and yet that's what's happening to Trump. So, not only does he have to focus on states like Ohio, Virginia, Florida and maybe even North Carolina, he's also going to have to campaign in Arizona and Utah and potentially Georgia - states most Republican nominees have locked down by August so they can focus on the swing states.

That's where money becomes an issue. You've gotta build a ground game, a structure of getting out voters, especially apathetic swing voters in swing districts and you've got to smartly play to the states you can win. One of the biggest criticisms of Romney's campaign in 2012 was faulty data. They relied on voter models that projected him winning comfortably, so, they got cocky and invested in states like Pennsylvania and Minnesota despite the fact Obama was well ahead in both those states. That distracted them from Ohio and Florida and Virginia, three states Obama narrowly won that year.

Trump already believes he can compete in California and Connecticut, so, I expect to see him putting up an effort there because his campaign is so loosely run, and there just isn't the $$$ there to fund a well established campaign staff, that he, too, will be duped by the fools gold and spend less time in states HE MUST WIN.

It's very important to have money to invest in ads and staff that know how to win elections. Winning a primary is the easy part, frankly, because the way primaries are set up is that it's entirely based around momentum, which doesn't necessarily exist in a general election because every state votes at the same time.

Had there been a fifty state vote on, say, Feb 2nd, 2016, it's very likely Trump isn't the nominee right now because of that very reason.

But I agree. We can't get complacent. The country is still too divided for this election to be a slam dunk. Hell, for most of 2008, despite the GOP in disarray and McCain being a complete fucking amateur candidate, who selected a bag of potatoes as a running-mate, the election was scarily close. Even then, Obama didn't win by a huge landslide, either.

With that said, Trump is in trouble. There are a lot, A LOT of red flags here and the fact is, we're hitting the point where the candidates are going to start being defined by those red flags. What killed Romney, really, was the summer of 2012. He was hit HARD by Obama on Bain and what not and he could never fully recover.

These are defining months for Trump. But to be sure - his campaign has been ineptly run since he wrapped up the nomination. This ain't the primaries anymore. A majority of America so far ain't buying what he's selling.

Hope it continues.

RogueTrooper

(4,665 posts)
58. Your post made me wonder if he has gone back to stiffing his vendors
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:02 AM
Jun 2016

Stiffing vendors has been part of his MO. I wonder if the ones being stiffed by the campaign will start coming out of the woodwork?
?


Jacobsen denied Trump's claim of shoddy work, saying, "Mr. Trump wants to belittle me…That's his style. He is 58. When is he going to grow up? I will collect, one way or another." Jacobsen subsequently told the New York Daily News that, after his story had appeared in the Post, he received 22 calls from merchants who claimed Trump had "stiffed [them] in the past. He can't get anybody to work for him."

The day that story ran, February 2, 2005, Mar-a-Lago asked the local sheriff to serve Jacobsen with a civil suit against his company for breach of contract, alleging that Jacobsen had failed to properly install the chandeliers and that the resort had to hire an electrician to do all the work. And on February 3, one of Trump's lawyers, John Marion IV, sent Jacobsen a letter threatening to bring a libel suit against him over his comments to the Daily News. He demanded that Jacobsen turn over the names, addresses, and phone numbers of the 22 merchants who had called him. The lawyer accused Jacobsen of being a "publicity hound" who'd "made this up."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/when-donald-trump-didnt-want-pay-chandelier-bill

6chars

(3,967 posts)
14. wonder what kind of ground game he'll have
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 10:26 PM
Jun 2016

that costs serious money. his supporters are not ones with great volunteer experience in organizing structured efforts. he didn't build a ground game during the campaign, with others dropping out etc. Romney won't even loan him the software from last time.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
19. I've suspected this all along--Trump is actually broke...
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jun 2016

...his "billionaire" status is pure BS. As much of a fraud as everything else about him...

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
20. USA Today - Pro-Trump super PAC uses Orlando attack in new ad
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:23 PM
Jun 2016

Trump is a Republican. He does not need to fundraise. He just needs to enjoy the support of a few well-heeled billionaires to power him through.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/06/20/pro-trump-super-pac-uses-orlando-attack-new-ad/86151950/

A super PAC supporting Donald Trump released a new ad Monday that seeks to use the Orlando nightclub shooting to make the case for his presidency.

Officials with Great America PAC say they will spend about $700,000 to air the 60-second ad on cable programs nationally and in 10 battleground states. It will air for a little more than three weeks.

The ad, entitled The Enemy, features former Navy SEAL Carl Higbie, who says the nightclub shooting is a reminder that the fight against terrorism has come to U.S. shores. “Join millions of active duty military members and veterans like me who stand with Donald Trump,” he says.

Great America PAC is one of several independent groups scrambling to become the main independent vehicle supporting Trump’s bid. Eric Beach, the PAC’s top fundraiser, said the group raised about $1 million in May. The super PAC is scheduled to file its monthly fundraising report with the Federal Election Commission later today.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
21. I'm looking foreword to the first debate
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:30 PM
Jun 2016

Edit update: because tRump is completely incompetent to be a Presidential Candidate.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
22. Why? Trump will not answer a single question...
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:37 PM
Jun 2016

His "fans" will soil their shorts in glee as he throws ignorant slurs at Hillary, Democrats, minorities, social security, Obamacare, and any other dog whistle or overtly racist bullshit that comes to mind.

The feckless media will sit on their hands and write nothing about it.
The pundit-class will proclaim his campaign dead (again) and handwring openly about what could it all mean.

And in the end 40% of America is going to vote for Trump whether he spends $10 million a week or $10 total.

The hideous corporate air time giveaway that overly ripe Yam with a straw hat and bad tie gets is shameful.
Shameful.

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
23. I can't decide if...
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:39 PM
Jun 2016

... a) he will be his usual boorish self and put his foot in his mouth again and again, which his supporters will LOVE but the rest of the natural world will find grossly off-putting, cementing his status as an international joke; or b) he will be trying SO hard to look thoughtful and presidential that his supporters will flip out and accuse him, confusingly and tearfully, of selling out and becoming a spineless establishment wuss. Of course, if it's Option B, his policy ideas will still make absolutely no sense.



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63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
26. His base firmly believes he will destroy Hillary...
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jun 2016

with his insults, innuendo and bullying. It will be hilarious to watch their dumbass wishful thinking destroyed the first time she punches their big boy right in the nose, metaphorically speaking, with actual intelligent evisceration.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
27. right, and I was remembering how aweful the repubs. debates were
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jun 2016

He can't do that distraction/punching in a GE debate.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
37. You forgot "victims"...
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:55 AM
Jun 2016

That's his base, that's how he steamrolled the Repug primaries. He appeals to all the white trash folk, rich, poor and in between, who are the "victims" of a changing society. Their standard refrain is "What has happened to America?"... when referring to the disappearance of the good ole boy success network which worked to the detriment of all who aren't good ole boys.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
33. At this rate it would take trump 1000 months to raise the amounts his campaign projected
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jun 2016

Originally they wanted to raise $1 billion. It will take them just over 83 years to do it at this rate.

Response to onehandle (Original post)

 

jknudsen

(52 posts)
36. What is wrong with all of you ??
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:48 AM
Jun 2016

What about all the issues for most Americans ? who gives a hoot what kind of $$ they have raised. This is so sad oh well
You all deserve what you get,
Jan

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
38. Are you lost?
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:58 AM
Jun 2016

Can someone who cannot run a competent campaign do a competent job as President of the United States? Do you support Trump?

 

jknudsen

(52 posts)
67. What is wrong with all of you ?
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 05:49 PM
Jun 2016

Are you kidding I'm not a Trump supporter or Hillary the system is all rigged you all missed out when you lost Bernie. Just my $0.05 worth as a Danish citizen

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
39. Life sucks, Trumpster. Maybe you need to sink all your "billions" into your campaign
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:58 AM
Jun 2016

Go for broke, asshole. Literally!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
52. As has already been pointed out,
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 02:56 AM
Jun 2016

he's been claiming to self-finance his campaign, even though he hasn't really.

More to the point, he thinks running for President is simply another reality show, and has approached his campaign as if that's all it is.

Plus, he's gotten such an incredible free ride from the media, that he of course thinks this is just another reality show.

truthisfreedom

(23,147 posts)
54. trump's situation is so totally dire. The gop has got to be freaked to the max.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:31 AM
Jun 2016

I sure hope that Hillary's SS detail is on maximum alert.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
56. So NICE of WaPo to represent Drumpf as some sort of 'Poor Underdog' ... whilst Hillary ...
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:03 AM
Jun 2016

Dontcha know, she sits atop a WAR CHEST ... the latter of which conjure up images of malevolent rulers SWIMMING in ill-gotten riches ... she's like doing 'snow angels' atop a mountain of GOLD ... whilst POOR DRUMPF, a regular fucking Robin Hood, wallows in poverty ... a 'hero to the people' ... pfffffft.

Do you not see the manipulation of the public's feelings with an article like this? Cause I do ...

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
60. the bulk of trump supporters have no money after they buy beer and ammo
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:41 AM
Jun 2016

so he won't see any contributions from them and the big GOP donors won't throw their money away on a sure thing LOSER....and some giving ti Hillary....as they hate the idea of a trump in the whitehouse as much as we all do

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
61. Trump was never serious about winning
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 07:12 AM
Jun 2016

I suspect if the RNC pays him what he spent on his own campaign plus a little bonus, then he will drop out.

Trump dropping out on his own will allow the GOP to select a new candidate without alienating Trump supporters.

The RNC just has to pony up the cash.

randr

(12,412 posts)
62. This means nothing--it could even be a negative factor
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jun 2016

In this election we may, just may, see the voters reject massive campaign spending.
A voter revolt against moneyed interests in our government is growing of both sides of the aisle and it may cost the candidate with the larger war chest.

randr

(12,412 posts)
64. We are about to find out how disgusted the people are with the system as we know it
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jun 2016

It will say a lot about us as a people if the same old same old remains the rule.
While the vast majority of Americans want to put and end to the personification of corporate power we have it in our power to end it but may never chose to do so.

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