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w4rma

(31,700 posts)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:13 PM Jul 2016

Sanders: FBI decision won't affect my campaign

Source: The Hill

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) says the FBI’s actions regarding Hillary Clinton have no bearing on his presidential campaign.

MaryAlice Parks ✔ @maryaliceparks
Sanders spokesperson says FBI announcement re Clinton emails will not impact the senator's decision to stay in the race

FBI Director James Comey on Tuesday announced his agency will not recommend criminal charges against Clinton for her private email setup while secretary of State, potentially settling what had been the single biggest unanswered question in the presidential race.

“Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case,” he said at the FBI’s headquarters in Washington, D.C.

“We are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case."

Sanders, meanwhile, has repeatedly refused to concede the Democratic presidential nomination to Clinton. He insists his campaign will continue to the Democratic National Convention later this month in Philadelphia.

Still, Sanders has said he plans to vote for Clinton and acknowledged in an interview last month that he is unlikely to be the nominee.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/286497-sanders-fbi-decision-wont-impact-campaign

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Sanders: FBI decision won't affect my campaign (Original Post) w4rma Jul 2016 OP
There's still a race going on? Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #1
exactly, and why is this LBN? still_one Jul 2016 #11
Exactly. I supported him in the primary. christx30 Jul 2016 #41
Has there been a convention yet? sangfroid Jul 2016 #42
What race is he talking about? SunSeeker Jul 2016 #63
I think he will continue to pull HRC to the left until convention day. Ash_F Jul 2016 #2
Very unlikely. stopbush Jul 2016 #3
Yes...He's Trying To Change The Sad State Of Things billhicks76 Jul 2016 #18
Maybe but its a waste of time because its one single office and what we need isnt just cstanleytech Jul 2016 #26
Two precinct chairs near me picked up by 20-something berniecrats Ash_F Jul 2016 #31
I agree with that change. I agree that change needs to be from state up. BUT LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #46
If you want to hold onto majority control then yes it will decades otherwise cstanleytech Jul 2016 #56
I think you are missing the point. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #59
Oh it certainly helps to have the office of President but you can work around it also which is why t cstanleytech Jul 2016 #60
Karl Rove Went Even Deeper billhicks76 Jul 2016 #61
Yup but the reason the Democrats are having a hard time gaining on the Republicans is cstanleytech Jul 2016 #62
Because Many Democrats Went Corporate billhicks76 Jul 2016 #64
That was negligible though in comparison to the bigger mistake which was being to focused on cstanleytech Jul 2016 #65
A waste of time for whom? n/t eggplant Jul 2016 #54
He and his supporters will no doubt continue to make that claim Orrex Jul 2016 #5
There is no way she would have said anything about wages without Sanders campaign Ash_F Jul 2016 #8
Was she running against Trump in 2008? Orrex Jul 2016 #10
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #14
Yawn Orrex Jul 2016 #17
Invisible to you maybe Ash_F Jul 2016 #20
Invisible to most people, definitely. Orrex Jul 2016 #23
Everybody who is a part of it deserves some credit Ash_F Jul 2016 #24
Correct. Sanders Was Responding To The People billhicks76 Jul 2016 #22
Hillary dropped that language a LONG time ago. Stop fighting the primaries. They are over. riversedge Jul 2016 #19
I am not fighting the primaries. Ash_F Jul 2016 #21
.that^ 840high Jul 2016 #35
Long as Congress is the one with control over setting the minimum wage what any President cstanleytech Jul 2016 #58
Candidates are only pulled....... Jack from Charlotte Jul 2016 #25
I think Trump will try to tug at leftish voters with TPP and expanding SS Ash_F Jul 2016 #27
So what are you trying to say? You think she will win the election by adopting more right onecaliberal Jul 2016 #29
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #4
Money well-spent roody Jul 2016 #12
What "campaign" are you referring to? JoePhilly Jul 2016 #6
Of course not, his presidential campaign is over. George II Jul 2016 #7
Well, exactly. LisaL Jul 2016 #9
The Sanders campaign goes on until the majority at the Convention vote for a nominee. sangfroid Jul 2016 #43
You forgot to put... reACTIONary Jul 2016 #47
If his campaign still goes on, why hasn't he filed his mandatory FEC Personal Financial Disclosure? George II Jul 2016 #53
The FBI announcement ... NanceGreggs Jul 2016 #13
What campaign? beachbum bob Jul 2016 #15
Fleecing? sangfroid Jul 2016 #44
If by stealing you mean Chevy Jul 2016 #49
So you are accusing the Sanders campaign of stealing. sangfroid Jul 2016 #50
Just stating why others Chevy Jul 2016 #55
Fleecing supporters? Chevy Jul 2016 #48
Is Sanders still a Candidate? sangfroid Jul 2016 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Chevy Jul 2016 #57
What race?? riversedge Jul 2016 #16
I think it's known as the race to oblivion! Walk away Jul 2016 #30
Of couorse it won't. His campaign was over weeks ago when he lost. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #28
Exactly Night Watchman Jul 2016 #33
He has no campaign... CherokeeDem Jul 2016 #32
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #34
...!100++++ 840high Jul 2016 #36
What is he taking to the convention? leftofcool Jul 2016 #37
If decisively losing the nomination doesn't effect him, why should The Second Stone Jul 2016 #38
I pity the man cosmicone Jul 2016 #39
Not much to say about Bernie & his campaign but... LenaBaby61 Jul 2016 #40
Of course, sangfroid Jul 2016 #45
Hit & run spamming of the board about a wannabe giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #52
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
1. There's still a race going on?
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:14 PM
Jul 2016
Sanders spokesperson says FBI announcement re Clinton emails will not impact the senator's decision to stay in the race

christx30

(6,241 posts)
41. Exactly. I supported him in the primary.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jul 2016

But he has as much chance of being the nominee as I do. Time for him to swallow his pride and get on the Hillary bus to the convention. Bring his voters with him.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
2. I think he will continue to pull HRC to the left until convention day.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jul 2016

Seems like what he was planning. Actually pretty much what he has said.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
18. Yes...He's Trying To Change The Sad State Of Things
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:48 PM
Jul 2016

It's not just about winning a job promotion. Remember this is a guy who actually tried to stop Bush while others were trying to be his best friend.

cstanleytech

(26,286 posts)
26. Maybe but its a waste of time because its one single office and what we need isnt just
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jul 2016

one single office we need a change from the state level offices on up and that kind of thing can take decades to change.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
31. Two precinct chairs near me picked up by 20-something berniecrats
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jul 2016


The obstacle is the establishment people who are only going to give up their positions kicking and screaming. Which is fine.

But when they exploit their power to make dirty plays or spread propaganda, it is not so fine.

LiberalFighter

(50,911 posts)
46. I agree with that change. I agree that change needs to be from state up. BUT
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jul 2016

It should also include local. Just like in baseball you have a farm system to build your team. I disagree about it taking decades. If it includes all offices now it will be a major step.

cstanleytech

(26,286 posts)
56. If you want to hold onto majority control then yes it will decades otherwise
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:12 PM
Jul 2016

the Republicans can use their control at the state level to regain control especially in states where they can gerrymander the district's.

LiberalFighter

(50,911 posts)
59. I think you are missing the point.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:25 PM
Jul 2016

Too much is only at the Presidential level. And it should not start at the state level. It needs to be at the local level also. When you get good candidates elected at the local level that increases the pool of good candidates for state and then for federal. That is how baseball teams build their squads.

cstanleytech

(26,286 posts)
60. Oh it certainly helps to have the office of President but you can work around it also which is why t
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:33 PM
Jul 2016

Koch brothers are focused more on the Congressional races rather than the Presidential race because they have seen that you can do alot by controlling Congress including stonewalling a Democratic President.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
61. Karl Rove Went Even Deeper
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 02:33 AM
Jul 2016

He went after state houses not just congressional seats. He and Bush didn't allow the opposition to stop them. Unlike our feckless "fighters" now.

cstanleytech

(26,286 posts)
62. Yup but the reason the Democrats are having a hard time gaining on the Republicans is
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 02:40 AM
Jul 2016

because they spent decades setting this up and they also managed to secure alot of the courts to which is why its been so hard to get the courts to reverse the Republican gerrymandering so we are in for a rough long ride.

cstanleytech

(26,286 posts)
65. That was negligible though in comparison to the bigger mistake which was being to focused on
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jul 2016

the office of president and Congress while neglecting the local elected state, county and city offices.
Because of that mistake we now have states were few Democrat can get elected because of how the Republicans have gerrymandered them

Orrex

(63,206 posts)
5. He and his supporters will no doubt continue to make that claim
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jul 2016

As soon as it was clear months ago that he wouldn't win, the narrative shifted to "his intention all along was to influence the debate."

Good for him, I guess, but it seems improbable that Clinton will set her policy based on some kind of What Would Sanders Do calculation.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
8. There is no way she would have said anything about wages without Sanders campaign
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jul 2016

Other issues too.

I remember 2008.

Orrex

(63,206 posts)
10. Was she running against Trump in 2008?
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jul 2016

No? Then your recollection is not compelling.

Sanders' supporters were also claiming that he would win because they remembered 2008.

It's true that Democrats will most often run their current campaigns as if they were running in the previous election, but the playing field is very different now, so there's no straight comparison to be made.

But if it helps ease Sanders' exit from the now-completed primary season, then so be it.

Response to Orrex (Reply #10)

Orrex

(63,206 posts)
17. Yawn
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jul 2016
8 years have passed and the country has moved thanks to people like Sanders.
But there's no evidence at all that Sanders had anything to do with it, especially since he was functionally invisible until a few months ago when for reasons of cynical political gain he decided to be a Democrat.

Yes, and the leaf floating on the surface probably thinks that it steers the course of the river.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
20. Invisible to you maybe
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jul 2016

"Yes, and the leaf floating on the surface probably thinks that it steers the course of the river."

This is a great and true saying, but misapplied to Sanders. He never took credit for the movement.

Orrex

(63,206 posts)
23. Invisible to most people, definitely.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jul 2016
This is a great and true saying, but misapplied to Sanders. He never took credit for the movement.
You credited him for the movement, so the statement applies.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
24. Everybody who is a part of it deserves some credit
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jul 2016

I said people like Sanders.

And Sanders on his own deserves a lot of credit.

I stood alongside Immokalee workers during their Wendy's action. They stood with us at Walmart. I had no idea Sanders was there long before me.

This video is from 8 years ago



Today Immokalee workers pay their respects
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
22. Correct. Sanders Was Responding To The People
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jul 2016

And their obvious needs and bad situation watching the ruling class reap more profits after ruining their lives and seeing the demented call it a full economic recovery just because we weren't bordering on a full collapse and revolt still. Sanders was never about himself. He was and is a mirror. I wish everyone could look in the mirror.

cstanleytech

(26,286 posts)
58. Long as Congress is the one with control over setting the minimum wage what any President
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:15 PM
Jul 2016

wants or believes means jack shit IMO.

Jack from Charlotte

(2,367 posts)
25. Candidates are only pulled.......
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jul 2016

in the direction that is best for winning the election. It's naive to think Sanders has anything to do with anything now regarding the election race between Clinton and Trump. All the Republic Party people who lost to Trump know that.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
27. I think Trump will try to tug at leftish voters with TPP and expanding SS
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jul 2016

and maybe an anti-interventionist stance.

Not saying that will work, since he is ridiculous. But there is a reason for Clinton to remain left to counter this.

onecaliberal

(32,849 posts)
29. So what are you trying to say? You think she will win the election by adopting more right
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jul 2016

Leaning policy? That's a losing idea, anyone who really thinks that should wake up and step out of their bubble.

Response to w4rma (Original post)

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
6. What "campaign" are you referring to?
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:25 PM
Jul 2016

Sanders no longer has a "campaign".

There are no more states in which to "campaign".

This line of argument is a sad fantasy that even Penthouse would laugh at.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
13. The FBI announcement ...
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jul 2016

... will not impact my staying in the race either.

Oh, that's right - I'm not in the race.

And oh, that's right - neither is Bernie.

 

sangfroid

(212 posts)
44. Fleecing?
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jul 2016

So let me see if I have this straight: are you accusing Bernie Sanders of stealing money from his supporters? Interesting.

 

Chevy

(1,063 posts)
49. If by stealing you mean
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:40 PM
Jul 2016

$500,000.00 of campaign money used to fly himself and 10 family members to Rome to stalk the Pope then yes fleecing/stealing could be used in that connotation.

 

sangfroid

(212 posts)
50. So you are accusing the Sanders campaign of stealing.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jul 2016

Without evidence or apparent complainents. One would assume that one of those contributors would have complained to the proper authorities if their contributions had been misused? And sorry, but simply stating a belief is not evidence (otherwise certain announcements from the FBI would have had more of an impact).

If you do believe a crime has been committed, please contact the U.S. Attorney in your District and report it. Otherwise, watch the libel/slander.

 

Chevy

(1,063 posts)
55. Just stating why others
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jul 2016

may consider his trip to Rome fleecing or as in your words stealing from his supporters as that is the FEC to judge on that. As far as far as libel or slander I'll take that into account after listening to (some) of Sanders supporters during the primary season.

 

sangfroid

(212 posts)
51. Is Sanders still a Candidate?
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jul 2016

Yes, he is.

Have people continued to threaten him with assassination? Yes, they are.

In fact, if Sanders announced tomorrow he is quiting, he would still receive SSP for some time afterward by practice, policy and legislation.

Chevy, if you really want to help elect your candidate, you're really going to have to do more than slice a lot of baloney.



Response to sangfroid (Reply #51)

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
32. He has no campaign...
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:15 PM
Jul 2016

except in his own mind.

I get it, he wants to put an imprint on this election. He is. I just don't think the impression he is leaving is the one he wanted.

Response to w4rma (Original post)

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
38. If decisively losing the nomination doesn't effect him, why should
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jul 2016

an email scandal that even Sanders said was bogus have any effect on his decision making process.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
52. Hit & run spamming of the board about a wannabe
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jul 2016

candidate that is no more. This shit is just getting pathetic.

Dear jury, it is not continuing to fight the democratic primary when the OP is very clearly about the guy still trying to run a campaign. Hence, I am commenting on his current actions.

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