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muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:41 AM Jul 2016

Chilcot delivers crushing verdict on Blair and the Iraq war

Source: The Guardian

Sir John Chilcot has delivered a devastating critique of Tony Blair’s decision to go to war in Iraq in 2003, with his long-awaited report concluding that Britain chose to join the US invasion before “peaceful options for disarmament” had been exhausted.

The head of the Iraq war inquiry said the UK’s decision to attack and occupy a sovereign state for the first time since the second world war was a decision of “utmost gravity”. He described Iraq’s president, Saddam Hussein, as “undoubtedly a brutal dictator” who had repressed his own people and attacked his neighbours.

But Chilcot – whom Gordon Brown asked seven years ago to head an inquiry into the conflict - was withering about Blair’s choice to join the US invasion. Chilcot said: “We have concluded that the UK chose to join the invasion of Iraq before the peaceful options for disarmament had been exhausted. Military action at that time was not a last resort.”

The report suggests that Blair’s self-belief was a major factor in the decision to go to war. In a section headed Lessons, Chilcot writes: “When the potential for military action arises, the government should not commit to a firm political objective before it is clear it can be achieved. Regular reassessment is essential.”



Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/chilcot-report-crushing-verdict-tony-blair-iraq-war



More at the link, plus live coverage here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-36714717

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jul/06/chilcot-report-live-inquiry-war-iraq
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Chilcot delivers crushing verdict on Blair and the Iraq war (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 OP
Brutal underpants Jul 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author OwlinAZ Jul 2016 #2
"There is one terrorist that the world needs to be aware of and that person is Tony Blair" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #3
Two full-day parliamentary debates Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #4
What does this imply about the U.S.? OwlinAZ Jul 2016 #5
It's 8:30 in the morning there, isn't it? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #6
Why would this country give a care about Iraq Cosmocat Jul 2016 #9
So - is Poodle Blair going to the Tower for this? jpak Jul 2016 #7
There's no chance of a government prosecution muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #8
Must be nice to have a government choie Jul 2016 #10
This is missing Main Street Media Recorded Program mitty14u2 Jul 2016 #11
Poodle's day is coming. lonestarnot Jul 2016 #12

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muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
3. "There is one terrorist that the world needs to be aware of and that person is Tony Blair"
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:15 AM
Jul 2016

That was said by the sister of a British soldier killed in Iraq, at the press conference held by the families of the dead British soldiers. It got a big round of applause.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-36714717

The families say that it is possible they will take some form of legal action, but need to examine the report in detail, not just the summary. Legal analyst Joshua Rozenberg examines the case for legal action: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/06/iraq-war-inquiry-chilcot-tony-blair-prosecute

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
4. Two full-day parliamentary debates
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:41 AM
Jul 2016

scheduled for next week, Cameron's just announced.

He's just rubbished the claim that "Saddam had WMD" by 2003 and invoked Robin Cook (RIP). He's not buying that the Blair cabinet influenced the intelligence community, but criticizes the presentation of intelligence to the public without emphasizing the uncertainty.

On legality, he pointed out that judgment isn't within the remit of Chilcot, but leaves it open for debate as military action wasn't a measure of last resort and accepts Chilcot's criticism of decision-making processes, lack of record-keeping and the rush to war and lack of exit strategy. But he seems to accept Chilcot's finding that there was no evidence of a deliberate attempt to deceive the public.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
9. Why would this country give a care about Iraq
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:06 AM
Jul 2016

Which cost this country trillions of dollars, the lives of thousands of brave troops, the lives torn apart for 10s of thousands of brave troops, the middle east completely jacked up ...

Why would this country give the first flying fuck about the assholes who cravenly lied us into that, when they can delve into full outrage mode over a SOC doing the same thing every prior SOC did and an exhaustive investigation has shown no evidence of the loss of classified material?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
8. There's no chance of a government prosecution
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:58 AM
Jul 2016

but the families of the killed British soldiers are still deciding whether to take legal action, pointing out sections such as the way that the basis for which its legality was decided was “wholly unsatisfactory” (basically, the Attorney General had first said a 2nd UN amendment was necessary, but when it wasn't going to appear, Blair "undermined the authority of the Security Council" (Chilcot's conclusion) and leaned on the AG to change his opinion. He did, and gave the cabinet the new one without explanation (and the cabinet, to its shame, didn't asked why he'd done a U turn).

I think that Chilcot pointing out that Blair was explicitly warned an invasion would make terrorism worse, but claimed in public that one of the dangers of Saddam was that he might arm terrorists with WMD, could also be significant - it's one of the cases where Blair didn't just pick the intelligence or analysis most favourable to war, but actively misled people about the dangers. Since most of the British soldiers died in terrorist attacks in the years after, that might give them a case he bears responsibility.

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