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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 03:20 PM Jul 2016

Giuliani: 'Black lives matter' phrase 'inherently racist'

Source: The Hill

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Sunday said when people use the phrase "black lives matter," it's "inherently racist."

"Black lives matter, white lives matter, Asian lives matter, Hispanic lives matter," he said.

"That's anti-American and it's racist. Of course black lives matter, and they matter greatly," he said. "But when you focus in on 1 percent of less than 1 percent of the murder that's going on in America and you make it a national thing, and all of you in the media make it much bigger than the black kid who's getting killed in Chicago every 14 hours, you treat it disproportionately."

Giuliani said only a small number of African-Americans will die at the hands of the police, whereas the majority of African-Americans killed will die at the hands of a civilian, "most often another black."

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Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/287157-giuliani-black-lives-matter-inherently-racist

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Giuliani: 'Black lives matter' phrase 'inherently racist' (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2016 OP
Giuliani is obvioudly applying for a job and... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #1
It's like saying the phrase 'Save the rainforest' Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #2
Especially the same forests getting killed every 14 hours by OTHER forests-most of them coniferous. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #16
Right! A law professor said forgotmylogin Jul 2016 #35
How about "Bitter, Beakless Vultures Don't Matter?" Is that racist? Orrex Jul 2016 #3
It's perfect bravenak Jul 2016 #10
Giuliani: graegoyle Jul 2016 #4
Oh Rudy! muntrv Jul 2016 #5
Exactly. greyl Jul 2016 #32
"Black Lives Matter" does NOT deny other lives matter. It merely emphasizes a neglected point. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #6
Ya mainly that the selection criteria and training for many police departments sucks ass. nt cstanleytech Jul 2016 #19
Good point, but not what people have in mind, I think. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #20
Someone needs to have a public debate with him... OneGrassRoot Jul 2016 #7
You're presupposing that Rudy wants an honest debate. Chakab Jul 2016 #17
Coventina: 'Giuliani' 'inherently racist' Coventina Jul 2016 #8
Giuliani is intrinsically anti-American! Helen Borg Jul 2016 #9
Giuliani: Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #11
Giuliani isn't "inherently" racist, he's OVERTLY racist. George II Jul 2016 #12
Pointing out racism is racist? uppityperson Jul 2016 #13
but, but 9/11! Ligyron Jul 2016 #14
Logically he should think "Blue Lives Matter" is inherently colorist: excludes orange vulgarians. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #15
Ghouliani vs Tubby for AG. Most ignorant bully wins AKing Jul 2016 #18
There goes Ghouliani, whitesplainin' to black people. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #21
What do you expect, from a guy whose best day was 9/11? (nt) Paladin Jul 2016 #22
Giuliani is an asshole Skittles Jul 2016 #23
Remember on 9/11, we loved cops. On 9/11 I spoke with cops at Ground Zero! Feeling the Bern Jul 2016 #24
Repubicans wonder how they wound up with Trump? hollowdweller Jul 2016 #25
Trump is the Republican Mainstream TomCADem Jul 2016 #26
Some people need to go away matt819 Jul 2016 #27
"lincoln was a racist for freeing the slaves! he should have freed everyone!" unblock Jul 2016 #28
Clueless n/t CanonRay Jul 2016 #29
Guliani is a fucking shit stain on society gopiscrap Jul 2016 #30
And this is relevant how? truthisfreedom Jul 2016 #31
But Rudy! What about 9/11!?!? sangfroid Jul 2016 #33
How many times has Rudy Giuliani been SLAMMED TO THE CEMENT during a traffic stop? Sunlei Jul 2016 #34
For SLOW Republicans,would it not be better to rename Black Lives Matter to Black Lives Matter Too ? OnDoutside Jul 2016 #36
 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
1. Giuliani is obvioudly applying for a job and...
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jul 2016

$$$$ is the SOLE criteria (the more power, the more $$$$).

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
2. It's like saying the phrase 'Save the rainforest'
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jul 2016

...is 'inherently anti-environmental' because someone who says 'Save the rainforest' must be indifferent to other forests.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. Especially the same forests getting killed every 14 hours by OTHER forests-most of them coniferous.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jul 2016

greyl

(22,990 posts)
32. Exactly.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:12 AM
Jul 2016
GeekAesthete explains:

Imagine that you’re sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don’t get any. So you say “I should get my fair share.” And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, “everyone should get their fair share.” Now, that’s a wonderful sentiment — indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad’s smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn’t solve the problem that you still haven’t gotten any!

The problem is that the statement “I should get my fair share” had an implicit “too” at the end: “I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else.” But your dad’s response treated your statement as though you meant “only I should get my fair share”, which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that “everyone should get their fair share,” while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.

That’s the situation of the “black lives matter” movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society.


http://fusion.net/story/170591/the-next-time-someone-says-all-lives-matter-show-them-these-5-paragraphs/


OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
7. Someone needs to have a public debate with him...
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jul 2016

about this.

Charles Blow comes to mind.

This conversation needs to happen in a big, public way so the Fox News side of the aisle can hear some truth finally.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
17. You're presupposing that Rudy wants an honest debate.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 05:14 PM
Jul 2016

He's a race baiting troll who's spent his entire political career attacking black people and pandering to law enforcement.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
24. Remember on 9/11, we loved cops. On 9/11 I spoke with cops at Ground Zero!
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:21 PM
Jul 2016

On 9/11, it was so 9/11 that 9/11 would be the greatest 9/11 9/11 ever saw. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. 9/11. error. . .error. . .hard drive failure.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
25. Repubicans wonder how they wound up with Trump?
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jul 2016

I can see it as a natural progression if you look at some stuff like this that is stock and trade of the party.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
34. How many times has Rudy Giuliani been SLAMMED TO THE CEMENT during a traffic stop?
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:45 AM
Jul 2016
or asked to empty his pockets every time he exits his home?
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