Leaked Document Says 2,000 Men Allegedly Assaulted 1,200 German Women On New Year’s Eve

[Purveyor]

Source: Washington Post

LONDON — At first, there was complete silence from officials. As rumors spread on social media, police had nothing to say about allegations of mass sexual assaults and other crimes carried out on New Year's Eve in the German city of Cologne.

It was only days later that officials reported that hundreds of women were victims of assault in Cologne, Hamburg and other German cities.

But numbers that are now emerging are likely to shock a country still coming to terms with what happened in Cologne more than half a year ago. According to a leaked police document, published by Germany's Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper and broadcasters NDR and WDR, the previous estimates have to be dramatically revised — upward.

Authorities now think that on New Year's Eve, more than 1,200 women were sexually assaulted in various German cities, including more than 600 in Cologne and about 400 in Hamburg.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/07/10/leaked-document-says-2000-men-allegedly-assaulted-1200-german-women-on-new-years-eve/

[NWCorona]

1. I have friends in Germany and they are worried.

And only one is ethnic German. The others are Turkish.

[Ace Rothstein]

2. Good thing they have bracelets now.

[7962]

3. They HID the story as long as they could.. Disgusting.

nothing was being done about it by authorities because they didnt want to expose the criminals
How could women feel like they even had a chance to get justice???

[Yukari Yakumo]

17. And all they accomplished was...

Giving the UKIP's and EDL's of the world more ammunition for their warped ideologies.

joo~ooy...

[7962]

22. Exactly. Just like getting caught in a lie. nt

[SunSeeker]

4. So only 4 men were convicted; and two of them just got SUSPENDED sentences?! WTF?

Only four have been convicted, but more trials are underway.

On Thursday, a court in Cologne sentenced two men in the New Year's Eve assaults. Hussein A., a 21-year-old Iraqi, and Hassan T., a 26-year-old Algerian, were handed suspended one-year sentences. Both arrived in Germany in the past two years, a court spokesman said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/07/10/leaked-document-says-2000-men-allegedly-assaulted-1200-german-women-on-new-years-eve/


How do they expect to prevent future sexual assaults when they do not punish those actually convicted of sexual assault?

[Igel]

10. So there are two extreme answers.

The first is that authorities decided to give them a pass.

The second is that authorities couldn't prosecute for one reason or another--lack of identification, inability to locate those identified, lack of witness cooperation, buddies who provided alibis.

The first is the stuff of CTs. The second seems much more likely. If the report is actually completely true.

[SunSeeker]

12. Even when identified and convicted, they get suspended sentences. That is inexcusable. nt

[christx30]

13. There were some people saying that

many of the men involved were not prosecuted because of fears it would lead to a backlash because of their nationalities. And we're seeing it right here.

[Democat]

21. Every time this comes up on DU, many say it's just racism

They don't care at all about the women being assaulted.

[7962]

23. Yes! But if ANY other group were involved, they'd be screaming from the rooftops!

I dont understand this need to excuse every single example of bad acts only when the perps are "refugees".

[Yo_Mama]

28. They haven't been able to prosecute the assaults - that was probably for stealing cell phones.

Most of those charged were nabbed on theft charges.

At most, less than ten of the assaults will be charged. Sad but true - there weren't legal grounds in Germany to charge most of the assailants.

A change to the law was developed due to the situation.

But rape laws in most of the northern countries of Europe are very unkind to the victims. Very few reported rapes are prosecuted, and of those that are, convictions are far from certain. Unless a victim suffers severe bodily harm, generally the laws have not supported the victim.

The sort of groping/grabbing attacks suffered were hardly even prosecutable under German law.

[FailureToCommunicate]

5. Disgusting that so few have faced ANY consequence for their assaults

[DetlefK]

32. The problem is finding the rapists. There is little to no evidence.

No fingerprints, no DNA...

It was one huge chaos in Cologne. There is nothing on camera as it happened inside the crowd and there were so many assaulters that it gets hard to remember faces.

[philosslayer]

6. Shocking behavior by German men

Clearly the rise of the right wing in Germany is having a negative impact.

[NWCorona]

11. I'm thinking sarcasm

[Akicita]

14. Gotta be sarcasm.

[romanic]

16. God you're so transparent.

You're damn near invisible at this point.

[leftynyc]

18. You're embarrassing yourself

with this crap. Others are assuming sarcasm but anyone who has seen you post knows it's nothing but pathetic deflection to nonsense.

[GummyBearz]

27. Yea and what sucks is...

You have to be so careful if you call him out, because he will alert for anything close to TOS. And the jury is a coin flip. It's amazing MIRT has let this go for so long

[snooper2]

29. how do you know he is a man not a woman?

[GummyBearz]

33. I dont

What difference does that make?

[leftynyc]

30. That is pathetic

What kind of sniveling coward posts something in the hope it gets people upset enough they'll have to be alerted? One who knows they're full of shit - that's who.

[GummyBearz]

34. Pretty much

Best thing to do is laugh at the ridiculousness. Accept it for what it is and refrain from trying to argue back and just laugh.

[geek tragedy]

7. those who want to avoid Brexitesque backlashes in the future would do well

to make sure this kind of thing is deal with harshly

[Bluenorthwest]

8. Germany is trading in misogyny thinking it makes them look less like their past.

They are very incorrect.

[DetlefK]

31. Yeah... No... Germany just passed a landmark-bill on rape.

To be precise: The Lower House passed it with 100% of votes. The Upper House will vote on it in September.

The threshold of what constitutes rape is redefined from violence or threat of violence to "going against the recognizable will of the victim". No means No.

And the bill contains a controversial law that would make it a crime in and on itself to be part of a group that molests people. It doesn't matter whether you molested or not. You are in that group and that is already a crime.

[smirkymonkey]

35. Good, it's about effing time.

The current laws in most of Northern Europe are bullshit.

[Akicita]

15. So the Left party thinks convicted foreign rapists shouldn't be deported?

I guess protecting immigrant predator rights is much more important to them than protecting women from predators.

[leftynyc]

19. Little to no punishment

and zero deportation. I'm sure the women in Germany are thrilled with how seriously their leaders are taking this. (THAT is sarcasm).

[Democat]

20. If true, many on DU will never accept it

They will make excuses and deny, and probably blame American foreign policy as well.

[7962]

24. Yep; it'll be the whole 5-degrees-of-separation thing.

Well, the US invaded iraq, which did this, then this, then this, and then all that, which led to these poor people having nowhere to go.
even though most are men.
I call premature Bullshit

[GulfCoast66]

25. Didn't you know

That before American involvement in the ME the region led whe world in women's rights and misogyny did not exist there. I have read similar things right here on DU.

Ok, a little hyperbole but not that much.

[Else You Are Mad]

26. Iran

Before the US intervened in their Democratic process was one of the best countries in both the ME and the world for want rights.