Suspect Fires Machine Gun at Cops During Car Chase Prompting Capitol Complex Lockdown
Source: ABC News
Police chased a car with a suspect armed with a machine gun through Washington, D.C., streets this afternoon, prompting a brief lockdown at the Capitol complex.
Three people were taken into custody, D.C. Metro Police Chief Cathy Lanier said, and the weapon was recovered.
The incident began when officers, who were at 4th St. SW and P St. SW, about 2 miles south of the Capitol, saw someone they thought they had a lookout alert on, Lanier said. The car fled the area.
While officers chased the car, one suspect extended an arm out the window with a gun and fired a shot toward the police behind the car, Lanier said.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/capitol-complex-lockdown-police/story?id=40529280
Another link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/capitol-complex-on-lockdown-after-suspicious-activity-reported/2016/07/12/2f37b68a-486e-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html
Lockdown lifted
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)AntiBank
(1,339 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)at a cop and now they probably aren't looking at simple possession charges.
forest444
(5,902 posts)I only bring it up because every time someone mentions an incident involving a machine gun some gun nut will be sure to crawl out of the woodwork to scold you for calling their baby a "machine gun."
"It's an assault rifle; can't you tell the difference!" they'll shriek (usually in all-caps) - and yes, I have seen it happen a couple of times even here on DU.
Qué será.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)on the forum by calling them gun-humpers.
For some reason (probably due to mother teaching me to atleast try and treat others like I would want to be treated like) it just strikes a raw nerve with me and I am not even in favor of people other than maybe current military and or retired ones (who are federally licensed which they have to renew every two years and are fully insured at their own expense with a private insurer) from owning those damn things.
chowder66
(9,068 posts)I think people (as decent as they can be) are tired. That doesn't make it right but I truly believe it's exhaustion of death and violence.
And guns represent that to a 'T'.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)their opinion it solves nothing and just creates a rift that leads the person being denigrated more often than not to ignoring perfectly valid ideas that the person making the denigrating comments might actually have.
Not to mention its just outright rude to do to anyone.
Paladin
(28,257 posts)Concentrating on initial reports from the media as to the accuracy of what sort of gun was used---rather than the loss of life or how unsuited the shooter was for firearms ownership of any sort---is a time-worn pro-gun diversionary tactic.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)exactly for that reason. Inaccurate reporting and terms give ammunition (pun intended) for people to diminish the overall issue by framing the debate / derailing the debate on technicalities.
ileus
(15,396 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)If the writer even knows what one IS.
Midnight Writer
(21,762 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)What if the story said a "mob" robbed a store & it was only 2 people? People would criticize that as well, rightfully so
Midnight Writer
(21,762 posts)I don't care about the shape of the stock or the rounds per second it fires or the speed of the projectiles.
Some needle dick fuck with an inferiority complex is firing his penis substitute out the window of a moving car to prove his manhood is bigger than his dad's.
I will bet dollars to donuts that the gun is designed to look as fearsome and deadly as true military hardware, even if it isn't.
Full auto or semi auto? Hell, I don't know and I don't care. I have fired both and I know you can clear a street full of people pretty efficiently with either.
Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Or if in a fatal traffic accident, a sedan rather than the coup was reported as the vehicle. The horror. The horror....
7962
(11,841 posts)Because people watch too many movies. "Machine gun" gives the unknowing a vision of Rambo holding a 50 cal.
Thats also how we end up with SO many conspiracy theories. So many "action" movies always have the "hero" finding out that its been the GOVERNMENT after him all along! And usually some double secret group that even the president isnt aware of!
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)Didn't seem all that important if I was a 1/32 off or not.
7962
(11,841 posts)IronLionZion
(45,441 posts)Looks like it's great for hunting and home defense...
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)If defense is the goal though I would think a regular old shotgun would do the job just fine especially since it spreads out after you fire it thus the ability to hit the target is actually improved.
7962
(11,841 posts)These types of guns are more for looks than anything else. Good for defending yourself if you're in a bathroom, otherwise most rounds will go thru the ceiling!!
IronLionZion
(45,441 posts)For home defense, it's very easy to miss the bad guy and accidentally shoot through dry wall and hit your kids in the next room. It has happened in my hometown.
The only pro-gun argument I've heard for defense with high capacity weapons is to put down lots of people in a riot/zombie/drug addicts situation where lots of irrational people are trying to kill your family. What's more likely to happen is for a paranoid idiot to falsely believe people are trying to kill their family when they are really just assembling peacefully for political protests or something.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)Back in the 70's Clint Eastwood had the Dirty Harry movie where he had that Smith and Wesson .44 magnum. Back then not that many people had them or wanted them. Sort of punishing to shoot the recoil is so bad. My grandad did a lot of gun trading and was shaking his head at how the price went up and everybody wanted one after the movie, which he was willing to make money off of but thought the buyers were stupid.
Then, the name escapes me, but John Wayne came out with a movie where he used a MAC 10 and they started making semi auto knock offs of the gun after that.
During the Yom Kippur war everybody saw the badass looking UZI and wanted one so they started making copies of them in semi auto.
I always thought it was silly.
benEzra
(12,148 posts)They're still non-automatic handguns firing pistol cartridges. They're not all that popular, in part because they have less capability than an ordinary-looking pistol shooting the same ammunition.
The restricted Title 2 automatic versions (the middle 3 in your pic) are a different story, but I doubt that was what was used here.
malthaussen
(17,194 posts)... if it was a fully-automatic weapon, then it is probably not registered or licensed by Treasury. Which is relevant, because it ties into the question of laws for the sale of firearms. Making or enforcing as many laws as one pleases will not have much affect on illegal weapons.
-- Mal
iandhr
(6,852 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)The guy leaning out of the car window, firing at cops, thought he was in Cleveland, prepping for the GOP Convention.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Vinca
(50,270 posts)TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:00 AM - Edit history (1)
Who were all captured, had a Mac-11. That is in fact an automatic weapon so is almost certainly an illegal banned firearm.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC-11
On edit, it could have been a semi-auto version of the weapon. None of the stories are particularly clear, and many journalists lack even basic knowledge about the firearms they report on.
Yonnie3
(17,437 posts)I found photos of this street in my phone (without the police.) I spent an afternoon and evening hanging out on this block when we had a rooftop event at the Hamilton. I recall thinking for once in DC I feel safe hanging out on the street at night. I had the van parked where you see the car in the lower left. No drama that night. You just never know in the city.