Trump announces by twitter that he chooses Pence

[irisblue]

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[etherealtruth]

1. Here is a link to the short fingered vulagarians tweet (via KMOD)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8013531


KMOD (6,474 posts)
1. it's true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/753965070003109888?p=v

[TomCADem]

2. 538 - Why Mike Pence Was Trump’s Least Worst Choice

The upside to Mike Pence, a generic Republican, is that it will illustrate that many of Trump's crazy ideas are actually pretty standard Republican fare. Cutting taxes, denying climate change, etc.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-mike-pence-would-be-trumps-least-worst-choice/

A wide variety of news outlets, led by Roll Call, are reporting that Republican Donald Trump plans to name Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as his running mate Friday. There’s some history of incorrect reporting on vice-presidential choices — Dick Gephardt turned out not to be John Kerry’s pick in 2004, for example — so these sources are hedging their reporting to various degrees. Betting markets price in about an 80 percent chance that Pence will be the pick, allowing an outside possibility of a last-minute surprise or change of heart on Trump’s behalf.

If the pick were Pence, I’d view it as the best choice Trump could have made from among a weak lot of finalists. That’s damning with faint praise to some degree, and I’ll highlight a couple of potential challenges with the pick later. But in Pence, Trump would basically be getting a “generic Republican”: a 57-year-old white man; the governor of a midsize, red-leaning state; someone with very conservative but otherwise conventionally Republican policy positions.

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Downsides to Pence? There isn’t a lot of electoral utility to the pick. As of early this afternoon, Trump already had an 84 percent chance to win Indiana, according to our polls-only forecast, meaning that Clinton would probably win it only in a national rout. According to our voter power index, a vote in Indiana is worth only 0.3 times as much as an average one elsewhere in the country, in terms of its likelihood of determining the Electoral College winner. By contrast, Virginia and Ohio — where possible Clinton VP picks Tim Kaine and Sherrod Brown reside — have a voter power index of 2.4 and 2.1, respectively.

For that matter, Pence isn’t especially popular in Indiana, having managed to alienate both liberals and conservatives with his handling of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which limited legal protections for LGBT residents of Indiana. Polls showed him only narrowly ahead of Democrat John Gregg in a race for a second term as governor. Pence will have to withdraw his name from the gubernatorial ballot if he’s Trump’s VP pick.

[Major Nikon]

7. No shining stars in the clown car

[Moostache]

3. I am physically ill...

I did not make it through a single page of his "followers" comments before I literally became nauseous.

Those people are sick, mentally. There is so much hate and anger and divisiveness in that camp that it is really, really scary. Given power and a blind eye from on high, those people would really do the unthinkable without ever batting an eye. It's horrifying truly horrifying.

[TomCADem]

4. Do Not Underestimate How Effective Hate and Anger Is

Trump's campaign is the largest and most successful white power movement in decades.

[Initech]

5. Trumppence

[PatSeg]

6. So does Trump plan on

governing via Twitter? Making major announcements on Twitter as he lounges about in in bathrobe? He would truly be the Idiocracy president.

[Initech]

10. I wonder if President Camacho was based on Trump?

[PatSeg]

12. I don't know

Camacho was rather likable in his own way.

[bucolic_frolic]

8. We are blessed

that the nut job extremist has chosen another extremist

They cannot hide from their extremism like GWB did in 2000

Democrats must make the case, and not let the media distort
to the extent it will try to do so

but a moderate ticket is harder to defeat than a radical one

[craigmatic]

9. this pretty much guarantees Hillary will pick Kaine

I don't know how I know that but I just feel it.

[bucolic_frolic]

11. She has several good choices

and while one or the other is a little more or less this than that
and Kaine is more moderate on social issues from what I've read,
and more centrist on corporatism, he is what he is and we must
win with whatever they choose, we'll drag them left on this issue
or that and make our case while they're in office. Policians do look
to popular opinion, and we have so many of the merits of so many
issues on our side. The American people are better educated politically
than ever before, thanks to the internet

[JNelson6563]

16. Valid points, well said.

[seabeckind]

13. Big shakeup downticket in Indiana

A good shakeup.

Susan Brooks, my most wonderful rep, carrying on the fine traditions of that most esteemed representative Dan Burton, who gained fame by harassing a sitting president about an affair with a consenting adult, and whom later was found to have fathered a child with a 16-yo,

has withdrawn her name from the 5th district where she is an incumbent.

Angela Demaree is the dem challenger http://www.demareeforcongress.com/aboutangela

Todd Rokita, a weird sort of guy and incumbent rep from the 4th district also withdrew his name.

We could pick up 2 seats in the house if we try.

Add in Bayh who really surprised us a couple days ago.

It's an ill wind....

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/15/trump-tweets-pence-vp-pick/87124790/

Oh, did I mention that there's an excellent chance for Pence to end up in a political landfill (aka Fox news commentator).

[irisblue]

14. what do you think this will do to the Governors race?

[seabeckind]

15. A little early to tell.

Gonna be some serious cigars smoked in the statehouse.

Pence and Gregg were neck and neck. I'd like a more liberal democrat than Gregg but we take what we can get.

Forgot to mention..... Brian Bosma, the speaker of the indiana house and my rep, didn't throw his hat.

Damn.