CNN Host Calls Senior Trump Aide Out On Plagiarized Speech: ‘You’re Lying’

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CNN Host Calls Senior Trump Aide Out On Plagiarized Speech: ‘You’re Lying’
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By Allegra Kirkland

Published


July 20, 2016, 9:17 AM EDT

CNN’s Chris Cuomo on Wednesday subjected Donald Trump’s campaign manager to an extended grilling for steadfastly denying that part of Melania Trump’s speech at the Republican National Convention was plagiarized.

“Some of those words came from Michelle Obama's speech in 2008,” Cuomo told Paul Manafort, who said on Tuesday that Trump's wife simply used "common words" in her speech. “You have every kind of expert and anybody with eyes who sees that, you keep ignoring it. I don't understand why. I don't understand why you keep making this an issue.”

“Because it is a speech that she gave, talking about her feelings. She is not a candidate for office,” Manafort replied, pivoting to discuss how Donald Trump won the Republican presidential nomination despite “all the conventional wisdom.

“That's the story,” he insisted.

Cuomo wasn’t having it.

“You're distracting from the story line by refusing to acknowledge something that's true, and it plays into two issues,” he said. Cuomo argued that the campaign's refusal to admit that part of the speech was plagiarized undercut their message that Hillary Clinton was too untrustworthy to serve as president, and spoke to the campaign’s pattern of denial when faced with any conflict. ....................

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[groundloop]

1. This is turning out to be the main focus of their convention

Someone (Melania, her speechwriters, one of the advisers) absolutely and totally blew it. And the fact that CNN is raising hell about this is telling too, their audience is likely to be the independent voter who rRump will sorely need.

[rocktivity]

13. Someone did NOT "blow" it -- someone DID it, and with the DELIBERATE intent

of sabotaging Duh Donald through his WIFE.

His organization has moles on it -- and I am NOT talking about either the skin condition or the rodents.


rocktivity

[tea and oranges]

18. So totes agree

Rat-fucking, whatever. That's the conclusion I came to as well, as soon as I read that the last lines of her speech were from rickroll. That combined w/ the fact the copied speech was from none other than Michelle Obama.

Or perhaps it was a clue from the scampaign that it really is a joke, but that seems a bit intelligent for that crew.

Someone took advantage of an esl woman to majorly bring down The Pretenders.

If whoever did it lives to tell about it, he/she is to be congratulated. Good work!

[ffr]

26. Or it could be the writers are trying to get noticed for SNL?

[Beartracks]

34. From rickroll?

What, did she end the speech with, "My husband will never give you up, never let you down..."?

I have not seen her speech.

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[tea and oranges]

44. Yes

She did. The Trumps were rickrolled in the most brilliant manner ever. So brilliant that the press has been rickrolled right along w/ them.

Can it possibly get any better?

[Craig234]

56. Not quite exactly

Her speech:

"I have seen him fight for years to get a project done – or even started – and he does not give up! If you want someone to fight for you and your country, I can assure you, he is the 'guy'. He will never, ever, give up. And, most importantly, he will never, ever, let you down. "

[Beartracks]

58. I was hoping he'd run around... and desert us...

... before November.

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[6chars]

53. We just better hope Bill can think up some words on his own

[tallahasseedem]

2. I'm glad he is keeping this up...

I have been irritated watching others in the media downplaying it and/or the over the top sympathy for Melania.

[question everything]

6. True, it has been only a few minutes of the whole speech, but it shows the incompetene

of the campaign.

Of all the phrases in the world, how have they landed on these? Yes, some could be considered semi generic, but "my word is my bond" is not. I don't think so.

[louis-t]

48. The order was exact, even if the words

were changed slightly. That was no accident.

[awoke_in_2003]

17. I was listening

to Chris Krok on the wa home last night, just to get a feel for what they (he tends to be lockstep with Rush) thought. He was admitting the speech was stolen, and how stupid it was to do. He even played the side by side audio of Trump's wife and Michelle. I was shocked.

[genna]

3. I didn't expect the journalist to begin vetting Trump

especially after the farce of the Republican primary coverage they gave.

Their corporate owners/managers have made their support staff so thread bare that they can't or won't vet a standard guest as they interview them. It's amazing to see Cuomo prepared enough to interview and fact check in the same conversation. What next?

Are they going to discuss qualifications for office?

[Francis Booth]

38. I also recall Senator Barack Obama catching a load of heat

for giving a speech that was remarkably similar to one that Massachusetts governor Deval Patrick gave.

I'm not 100% certain that these people are cognizant of what they're doing. We all hear catchy phrases all day long; some of them stick with us. Sometime later, they come back to us, but we can't remember where we heard them. Nevertheless, we repeat them. That's how language spreads - repetition and mimicry.

In poor Ms. Trumps case, however, I'd agree that she was set up. When the source is someone as auspicious and accomplished as Michelle Obama is quoted, someone is surely going to take notice.

[RussBLib]

5. they just CANNOT ever admit they made a mistake

Some people will view that as a sign of strength. The idiots, that is.

[Yupster]

8. Stupid isn't it?

I'm not used to making or creating a speech, especially in English which is not my first or even second language. There was confusion between me and the speechwriters. I didn't mean to take part of Michelle's speech and apologizes to Michelle for it.

I'm embarrassed. I hope people don't hold my confusion against the rest of my family.

End of story. She looks sympathetic.

Why lie?

[AlbertCat]

22. Some people will view that as a sign of strength.

Freaky, isn't it?

It's akin to that thing where the more evidence that disproves a notion, the more true believers... who ignore said evidence and believe the notion even harder... are all the more revered. Just like religion.

Nuts

[Francis Booth]

39. I know, that's what's so bizarre. Just admit the error and move on.

It's surreal to see this campaign manager sit there lying through his teeth. He knows he's lying. We know that he knows that he's lying. He knows that we know that he knows that he's lying. Everybody knows that he's lying.

Just come clean. You'd probably get a pass from most reasonable people anyway.

[hamsterjill]

7. It's time (and it's refreshing) for a journalist to tell them they are lying - to their faces.

It's also time for journalists to tell some of the Trump surrogates to "shut up" when said Trump surrogate talks over differing opinions. I've noticed that is the normal strategy for most Trump surrogates. Just keep talking so no one else can get a word in edgewise, interrupt, and talk over to the point that others' voices cannot be heard.

I don't generally approve of the use of language such as "shut up", but when you are dealing with cretins, sometimes you have to use language that they understand.

[question everything]

9. Is is not just the speech

I just read - perhaps has been posted here - that in the middle of the talk by the mother of one of the Benghazi's victims, Trump called Orally on the phone and poor Fox had to switch from the cover of the talk to the phone exchange.

[marble falls]

10. Its a rare treat to see CNN stand up to someone.

[TonyPDX]

14. CNN practicing journalism -- I don't expect it to last long. n/t

[marble falls]

20. Someone will get fired over that lapse.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. Amateur campaign (lack of) damage control covering up amateur campaign speech-writing.

If they had within 2 hours said "oops, that was an error, we apologize" then this would have no legs.

But now it keeps shining a light on Trump campaign lying and lack of leadership. Amateur from top to bottom.

It is so telling that the section plagiarized is about honesty and integrity and "your word is your bond".

[yallerdawg]

12. "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."

Rules do not apply to this campaign.

Doesn't mean "we the people" don't have standards!

Here is a Republican National Convention where the most prominent Republicans can only regurgitate, "Well - Hillary's worse!"

I do believe we'll win that argument!

[liberal N proud]

15. They have no qualms about lying, cheating, plagairizing or any other crooked deed

It is what and who they are!

[riversedge]

16. New Trump plagiarism communications strategy: we can keep lying longer than you can keep complaining

Mostly likely true.



David Frum Verified account
?@davidfrum

New Trump plagiarism communications strategy: we can keep lying longer than you can keep complaining about our lying.

[Yallow]

19. Lying Is What Republicans Do - Where Have You Been?

On Mars?

[The Wizard]

51. They lie without compunction.

It's in their DNA.

[zentrum]

21. The Woman plagiarized is also a huge

….part of the story. Melania didn't crib from some random essay. She stole from the wife of the Not Born in This Country Socialist Muslim Other—Michele Obama.

It was stolen from the very epitome of everything Trump is rapidly campaigning against. So it's not just about plagiarism—it's about stealing from the very people you are whipping your followers into a frenzy about.

The ironies are beyond all bounds.

[ancianita]

24. Oh, man. You really nailed it. It's not JUST an "immigrant stealing from hard working Americans,"

it really IS way worse. Thanks for this nuanced interpretation!

Because this context means that this "problem" or "mistake" or BULLSHIT will never end in this campaign.

[zentrum]

47. I don't watch SNL much

…..and they are probably in summer reruns but can you imagine the skits this could generate?

Comedians across the country are rejoicing.

[ancianita]

49. ... humor has its place, but we'd be foolish to get carried away with all that.

This sociopathic group will always and forever need adult supervision in some zone away from the Beltway.

[zentrum]

54. Agree completely, and was more

…….referring just to the plagiarism episode, since that's the subject at hand.

[NBachers]

36. Zentrum, you have perfectly described the core issue of this story.

[Kathy M]

41. Agree .....

[NBachers]

43. Hi Kathy M- Welcome to Democratic Underground. Since you agree with me, I immediately have a good

impression of you!

[zentrum]

46. Can you imagine

…the fun the Obama's are having with this when they talk to each other at the end of the day? They must think it's a hoot.

[Kathy M]

42. Thank You for this discription ......

When story first broke first thought was they did this on purpose

[ancianita]

23. What's CNN trying to do, make itself an honest site of journalism by contrasting GOP dishonesty?

I wonder if CNN will continue this tack with Hillary later.

[yallerdawg]

30. This is Chris Cuomo.

Father Mario. Brother Anthony.

Cuomo's bleed blue!

The flipside?

That dang Jake Tapper! He is an unabashed Hillary Hater as far as I can tell. And he has an hour by himself each late afternoon to bash her!

[ancianita]

33. How long does Cuomo get every day?

[yallerdawg]

45. Cuomo has multiple co-anchors.

His primary co-host has been Alisyn Camerota who came over from Fox News Weekend curvy couch duty. Michaela Pereira just started a new show on HLN. They have occasional third wheel hosting now, but lots of regular panelists.

"New Day" is three hour from 6-9AM M-F ET.

"The Lead w/ Jake Tapper" is 4-5PM M-F ET, and he spends half the show confirming how awful Hillary is.

[MissB]

25. Folks that have gone to college- especially recently- remember

how big of a deal plagiarism is! Did the RNC folk and the Trump campaign folk go to college? That's why so many of us are thoroughly shocked. You just don't do this crap without some serious consequences.

[rocktivity]

27. The problem isn't that Michelle and Melania used "common words"

but that they used them in the same order!




rocktivity

[vadermike]

28. Lol

CNN grilling trump campaign this morning says ngbhow it hurts their unity message eye etc as this is day three and plagiarized scandal is all they are talking about Trump campaign did this to themselves and so did trump with his tweet this morning This is the GE not a GOP primary We are lucky these doofuses are they s incompetent !

[Doodley]

29. Cuomo finally giving up the softball questions.

[Justice]

31. Chaos. Manafort denial and then Melania and speechwriter came out with apology an hour later.

The left and right hands are not even on the same person.

[Martak Sarno]

32. Behind the curtain

And yet the entire media world is focusing on this two bit piece of questionable import and ignoring the real importance of the Convention.

No one is talking about issues, problems the Right has caused, Mein Trump's idiocy, his plans for Republican/Fascist conquest...

Yeah, it was planned all right. Just enough to distract from the real BS from the RIght they so worried would surface during the convention.

Stupid mistake or brilliant move?

Yeah, Make America GRATE!

[Beartracks]

35. Dem vs Repub impression

A Democrat's take: This speech snafu and all the lying and finger-pointing speaks to the incompetence and lack of crisis management of the Trump campaign, and by extension any Trump administration.

A Republican's take: Who cares? It was just a speech his wife gave. Trump's still the man and he's gonna get me my job back!


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[jtuck004]

37. This two "bit piece of questionable import" shows us that, despite their rhetoric, they are

liars and cheats, and dependent upon the very "socialist" they don't like to accomplish something so simple as a speech.

I wonder what else they will need to steal from the Obama's to accomplish anything? Do you really want to vote for a cheat and a liar? The only policy discussion you can expect with someone who thinks 24 x 9 about themselves is what policies are good for or affect them.

This _IS_ an in depth discussion of policies with the real estate swindler. Does that tell you how shallow it is?

[NoMoreRepugs]

40. HRC is as 'untrustworthy' as Rump is 'honest'

it is amazing what Repug BizzaroWorld thinks is real

[The Wizard]

50. The Trump University hand book

says she did not plagiarizer in accordance wit their high standards.

[cynzke]

52. She Is Not a Candidate But That Is IRRELEVANT!

That is still NO EXCUSE. The GOP and Trump campaign tried to pull a CON over on American Voters, PURE AND SIMPLE. That is what is so OUTRAGEOUS about this debacle. They got caught and then tried to cover it up. They tried to pawn part of a speech off that belonged to Michelle Obama. A speech reflecting HER VALUES and the GOP would have us BELIEVE these were Trump's. That is very LOW. She had the nerve and STUPIDITY to almost copy it VERBATIM. What GALL! If she hadn't got caught, the GOP would be congratulating the Trump campaign for THEFT!

[King_Klonopin]

55. I saw this reference to "denial" in the face of conflict (or confrontation, as I would put it)

and just previously I had seen a post referring to Nixon. Then it hit me...

a Trump administration would be exactly like the Nixon administration.

Denial.
Paranoia.
Incompetence.
Insecurity.
Pettiness.
Revenge.
Secrecy.
Obfuscation.
Dirty Tricks Dept.
Disgrace.

God help us avoid repeating history!

They trotted out a woman who blamed Hillary Clinton -- personally --
for the death of her son. That it beyond the pale of decency and violates
all unspoken rules pertaining to conventions, i.e. one does not use the
death of a fallen soldier as a political prop. DISGUSTING GOP VERMIN !

[phylny]

57. In my little bubble of the universe, both at work and

with friends online, people are incredulous about the plagiarism. In my office, Republicans and Democrats alike are voting for Hillary - and this is the least of the reason why.